Trent Sisley is an Outstanding Hoosier and (2025) SG - to UConn Thread

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This narrative that Woody is some kind of “bad guy” kinda pisses me off.

Criticize his coaching? Sure, I get it completely. But anything other than a personable guy that cares deeply about IU, its fans, and its history? That’s a bunch of crap to me.

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36 minutes ago, Stuhoo said:

This narrative that Woody is some kind of “bad guy” kinda pisses me off.

Criticize his coaching? Sure, I get it completely. But anything other than a personable guy that cares deeply about IU, its fans, and its history? That’s a bunch of crap to me.

He’s not a “bad guy” in the Chris Beard “bad guy” sense, and no one has said otherwise. But the way he’s acted in the media/public eye, combined with the way he allegedly behaves behind closed doors, does not paint the picture of a “personable guy that cares deeply about IU, its fans, and its history.” Rather, it paints the picture of a guy who loves Mike Woodson along with only those people who love Mike Woodson as much as Mike Woodson loves Mike Woodson. Anyone else is beneath him and unworthy. 

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I’m a IUfb fan! So…..

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6 hours ago, Chris007 said:

They have known each other for years. Just a few weeks ago, they took a trip together to the Basketball Hall of Fame when RMK was honored. 

Yeah, there are fair shots and there are unfair shots.  DD is the master of unfair shots.  It's why he isn't on ESPN anymore.

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Interesting Mullins dad was brought up here. My lunch buddies wife is a teacher in Greenfield and he just said last week the parents were a problem. Evidently the kid got a car along with the money and use of a private jet.

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Yeah, there are fair shots and there are unfair shots.  DD is the master of unfair shots.  It's why he isn't on ESPN anymore.

Meh. Literal politics played a huge part in this. Dakich and Sage Steele both had enough of ESPNs ways and likely vice versa.


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Who's this Mullins fellow? The name kind of seems familiar but I don't remember so he must not be important.

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1 hour ago, WayneFleekHoosier said:

Meh. Literal politics played a huge part in this. Dakich and Sage Steele both had enough of ESPNs ways and likely vice versa.


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I think sage got sideways with political differences but DD was regularly going after people on twitter while at ESPN and became too much of a liability.  Too bad because when he first started doing games he was good. 

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2 hours ago, Alford Bailey said:

Interesting Mullins dad was brought up here. My lunch buddies wife is a teacher in Greenfield and he just said last week the parents were a problem. Evidently the kid got a car along with the money and use of a private jet.

Maybe the kid was too good to be true. 5 star skill or not a toxic parent is a risk of poisoning a player or team. Had I known that previously I wouldn't have been as high on getting him.

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11 hours ago, HinnyHoosier said:

Maybe the kid was too good to be true. 5 star skill or not a toxic parent is a risk of poisoning a player or team. Had I known that previously I wouldn't have been as high on getting him.

Well, I don't think his parents would've needed access to a private jet if he played in Bloomington.  Anywho,  there are two players in college basketball:  players who play at IU and players who don't.  Focus on the ones at IU and wish the others well unless they are playing IU.

I would say that parents asking that their 18 year highly talented kid gets a ton of compensation (maybe more than they are worth) is the norm and not the exception.  Ke'lel Wares are always going to be out there -- kids who asked and got the world (at Oregon) and it didn't pan out and they move on.

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42 minutes ago, RaceToTheTop said:

Well, I don't think his parents would've needed access to a private jet if he played in Bloomington.  Anywho,  there are two players in college basketball:  players who play at IU and players who don't.  Focus on the ones at IU and wish the others well unless they are playing IU.

I would say that parents asking that their 18 year highly talented kid gets a ton of compensation (maybe more than they are worth) is the norm and not the exception.  Ke'lel Wares are always going to be out there -- kids who asked and got the world (at Oregon) and it didn't pan out and they move on.

It's not even about compensation. He would've gotten more than he needed from us, and as far as I know it was more than UConn.

My post was solely regarding parents. We've seen what the toxic ones do and what they're capable of. Dad already joining in (with Dakich of all people) on barbs taken at the now-opposing coach who recruited your family until the end is a terrible look. Had Braylon not been as highly touted as he is, it's the kind of thing that can affect your son's experience. Hopefully it was just a one-off thing on dad's part. Braylon will be fine. It's just a bad look and as a parent, why would you chance it?

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1 hour ago, HinnyHoosier said:

It's not even about compensation. He would've gotten more than he needed from us, and as far as I know it was more than UConn.

My post was solely regarding parents. We've seen what the toxic ones do and what they're capable of. Dad already joining in (with Dakich of all people) on barbs taken at the now-opposing coach who recruited your family until the end is a terrible look. Had Braylon not been as highly touted as he is, it's the kind of thing that can affect your son's experience. Hopefully it was just a one-off thing on dad's part. Braylon will be fine. It's just a bad look and as a parent, why would you chance it?

It wasn't a one off thing -- I believe he had liked a post/tweet last spring about Woodson not paying enough attention to recruits during last year's sectional.  That obviously didn't stop IU recruiting him.  I'm just saying that didn't stop IU from recruiting him.

Can interfering parents effect the team?  Sure.  Logan Duncomb grandmother and CJ Gunn's father (I believe) seem to do talking on social media/in the background when their kids weren't playing.  It probably does hurt more if it's a parent whose kid is an integral part of the team.  I think Bronny being at USC hurt them last year.

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On 11/7/2024 at 1:22 PM, Hoosierfan2017 said:

He’s not a “bad guy” in the Chris Beard “bad guy” sense, and no one has said otherwise. But the way he’s acted in the media/public eye, combined with the way he allegedly behaves behind closed doors, does not paint the picture of a “personable guy that cares deeply about IU, its fans, and its history.” Rather, it paints the picture of a guy who loves Mike Woodson along with only those people who love Mike Woodson as much as Mike Woodson loves Mike Woodson. Anyone else is beneath him and unworthy. 

Ask his players how he acts behind closed doors. By all accounts, they love him.

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5 hours ago, steubenhoosier said:

Ask his players how he acts behind closed doors. By all accounts, they love him.

Ohh yeah the recruits are all flocking to IU, they love him! 

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5 hours ago, steubenhoosier said:

Ask his players how he acts behind closed doors. By all accounts, they love him.

Players say good things about their coach. Shocker. 

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2 hours ago, JSHoosier said:

Players say good things about their coach. Shocker. 

You do realize that there are coaches that isn't the case for every coach.  

By all accounts, Woodson is true to his word to players coming into the program.  That is important to players.  I haven't really heard him air team business to the press nor call a player out to the media.  There are plenty of things that you can be critical of him about, but there are a lot of snake salesman out there that will lie to kids to get them into the program and you will hear grumblings in the background while they are with the team and then when they leave you will hear the complaints.  You can argue about team construction and style of play that he's put out, but he has treated players fairly.

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2 hours ago, JSHoosier said:

Players say good things about their coach. Shocker. 

Never heard one single player say anything good about Archie Miller. Clearly Archie is not the standard anymore wants, but he is an easy example of a coach that no player went out of their way to say anything good about.

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8 hours ago, Stuhoo said:

Never heard one single player say anything good about Archie Miller. Clearly Archie is not the standard anymore wants, but he is an easy example of a coach that no player went out of their way to say anything good about.

Not to derail here, but it will never not be head scratching the number of levels Archie stone failed on here while still to this day being beloved at Dayton. I mean, you talk to Dayton people and they love that dude. 

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On 11/7/2024 at 1:22 PM, Hoosierfan2017 said:

He’s not a “bad guy” in the Chris Beard “bad guy” sense, and no one has said otherwise. But the way he’s acted in the media/public eye, combined with the way he allegedly behaves behind closed doors, does not paint the picture of a “personable guy that cares deeply about IU, its fans, and its history.” Rather, it paints the picture of a guy who loves Mike Woodson along with only those people who love Mike Woodson as much as Mike Woodson loves Mike Woodson. Anyone else is beneath him and unworthy. 

Chris Beard and his staff would be a monumental improvement over what we have at this time. A partially educated eye can look at the line-up and rotations right now and scout us for the remainder of the year. 

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15 hours ago, RaceToTheTop said:

You do realize that there are coaches that isn't the case for every coach.  

By all accounts, Woodson is true to his word to players coming into the program.  That is important to players.  I haven't really heard him air team business to the press nor call a player out to the media.  There are plenty of things that you can be critical of him about, but there are a lot of snake salesman out there that will lie to kids to get them into the program and you will hear grumblings in the background while they are with the team and then when they leave you will hear the complaints.  You can argue about team construction and style of play that he's put out, but he has treated players fairly.

What? He repeatedly threw players under the bus last season.