They Fired Tom Allen!

[Hovadipo]

22 minutes ago, Scotty R said:

It also funny how fans can't see after 6+ years that a coach isn't doing a good job.

 

Who on earth is saying this 

[CSP]

1 hour ago, Scotty R said:

It also funny how fans can't see after 6+ years that a coach isn't doing a good job.

 

Walt Bells coached 6 years? Wild.  But you missed the point of the post. 

[CSP]

42 minutes ago, Hovadipo said:

Uhhh......I'm in. Just don't let him pick his OC!

I mean, if it were Pat Fitz vs Tom Allen... hell yes I'm taking one of the 10-15 best HCs in the country lol 

[Scotty R]

1 hour ago, btownqb said:

Walt Bells coached 6 years? Wild.  But you missed the point of the post. 

I thought he was talking about Allen. I know you will never criticize a coach no matter how they are doing.

[CSP]

1 minute ago, Scotty R said:

I thought he was talking about Allen. I know you will never criticize a coach no matter how they are doing.

I'm not dumb enough to. You're right. 

[Scotty R]

1 hour ago, btownqb said:

I'm not dumb enough to. You're right. 

Why are coaches untouchable to criticism 

[CSP]

10 hours ago, Scotty R said:

Why are coaches untouchable to criticism 

They aren't, clearly. 

Look at the thread title. 

[Loaded Chicken Sandwich]

16 hours ago, btownqb said:

Imagine sitting on the internet, never once coaching football or calling plays in your life..... posting that a D1 football coach, that has been a HC... is a moron. 

It just cannot get funnier than that. 

Imagine sitting on the internet believing people can't have opinions... Yes, Tom Allen and Walt Bell are moronic coaches relative to other P5 coaches. Not really sure the difficulty here in understanding or why having an opinion isn't allowed.

[Stuhoo]

All,

From this point in the thread forward please refrain from veering toward personal insults or weighing who is allowed to say (or not say) what.

Much appreciated!

[Naturalhoosier]

50 minutes ago, Stuhoo said:

All,

From this point in the thread forward please refrain from veering toward personal insults or weighing who is allowed to say (or not say) what.

Much appreciated!

 

 

[CSP]

3 hours ago, Loaded Chicken Sandwich said:

Imagine sitting on the internet believing people can't have opinions... Yes, Tom Allen and Walt Bell are moronic coaches relative to other P5 coaches. Not really sure the difficulty here in understanding or why having an opinion isn't allowed.

hmmm ok.. so in detail, and not emotion-filled BS, tell me what the issues were with WB from Saturday? 

Again, use the film.. and go into detail. 

I'll post the videos for you. 

 

 

Personally, I just think a bunch of you ***** to ***** and there isn't much substance behind it. 

 

I will admit.. I was pretty pissed when we didn't punt with 40-50 secs to go in the half when we were down 7-3. I would have punted there, pinned them (I think OSU would have just taken knees to end the half)... you go into the half down 4 and OSU has zero momentum. 

It also takes 5 or 6 plays away from your defense, on a hot day like Saturday. 

But the two biggest plays for us offensively were NOT screwed up by WB. That was, whoever jumped on 3rd and 1 on the first drive and Jackson not going right on the draw play that would have gotten 10-15 more yards. Those two plays alone cost us at least 6 more offensive plays. 

[Alford Bailey]

Even if you believe Allen was great 2-3 years ago you have to admit the program is struggling now. Talented coaches and players left and Allen has been unable to replace at the same level of competence.

[Hoosierfan2017]

2 minutes ago, btownqb said:

hmmm ok.. so in detail, and not emotion-filled BS, tell me what the issues were with WB from Saturday? 

Again, use the film.. and go into detail. 

I'll post the videos for you. 

 

 

Personally, I just think a bunch of you ***** to ***** and there isn't much substance behind it. 

 

I will admit.. I was pretty pissed when we didn't punt with 40-50 secs to go in the half when we were down 7-3. I would have punted there, pinned them... you go into the half down 4 and OSU has zero momentum. 

We’ve lost 15 of our last 17 conference games and just put up a measly 153 yards of offense last Saturday. We played a game plan designed to avoid getting blown out, not a game plan designed to win, which is gross to see in year 7 of a coach’s tenure. Not all of us were “pretty pleased” by that performance. 

[CSP]

5 minutes ago, Hoosierfan2017 said:

We’ve lost 15 of our last 17 conference games and just put up a measly 153 yards of offense last Saturday. We played a game plan designed to avoid getting blown out, not a game plan designed to win, which is gross to see in year 7 of a coach’s tenure. Not all of us were “pretty pleased” by that performance. 

You didn't give me any details about what WB did wrong Saturday.

[CSP]

I found another time I was pretty pissed, not sure who's fault it was exactly.... 4th and 2 on OSU's first offensive drive.... 

I thought it was obvious as soon as OSU motioned their H back, they would create some sort of boot action and try and the H back the ball in the flat. That is around "2:40" in the first video. 

***sorry I guess it wasn't a boot, but it was PA, and the H back just ran a simple arrow in the flat and we had absolutely no one close. That play pissed me off. 

[Hoosierfan2017]

5 minutes ago, btownqb said:

You didn't give me any details about what WB did wrong Saturday. 

I haven’t said anything about WB at all. The best OC in the country would struggle for the offensive firepower, or lack thereof, that we have. My issues are entirely with Tom Allen. We runs the program. He brings in the players. He brings in the coaches. He’s been on a nosedive since the Outback Bowl. Do you think he’s going to turn things around? 

[CSP]

3rd and 5 in plus territory... we ran straight speed option with no jet fake at all, to the boundary. That's a very questionable call. 

That was the drive we got the FG on. 

[CSP]

2 minutes ago, Hoosierfan2017 said:

I haven’t said anything about WB at all. The best OC in the country would struggle for the offensive firepower, or lack thereof, that we have. My issues are entirely with Tom Allen. We runs the program. He brings in the players. He brings in the coaches. He’s been on a nosedive since the Outback Bowl. Do you think he’s going to turn things around? 

I'm not sure.

I think in my lifetime, born in 1990, outside of Hep (and I don't think his model was sustainable), CTA is the coach we've hired with the best chance at success at Indiana. 

If the rest of this season ends up like 2 years ago, I am probably ready to move on. 

[Lebowski]

6 minutes ago, btownqb said:

3rd and 5 in plus territory... we ran straight speed option with no jet fake at all, to the boundary. That's a very questionable call. 

That was the drive we got the FG on. 

Man, you're cracking me up! Keep it coming. 

I didn't mind that we went for it on 4th. I actually preferred it. Especially if they convert it and we get more points going into the half. I also felt good about keeping them at bay if we didn't convert it because our D was doing yeoman's work. Now, I did lose my poop when we didn't convert it because we called time out for that play! And I completely raged when the zebra called taunting on us. 

[CSP]

15 minutes ago, Lebowski said:

Man, you're cracking me up! Keep it coming. 

I didn't mind that we went for it on 4th. I actually preferred it. Especially if they convert it and we get more points going into the half. I also felt good about keeping them at bay if we didn't convert it because our D was doing yeoman's work. Now, I did lose my poop when we didn't convert it because we called time out for that play! And I completely raged when the zebra called taunting on us. 

I can understand that. My dad and uncle (I watched the game with them)... they felt the same. 

But, in my opinion, if you're going the ultra-conservative route (which I agreed with in this game)... fully commit to it. 

I am also big on the momentum aspect.