Lineup Changes?

[maharkn 1,734]

There's nothing unfortunate about seeing Geronimo.

Was more pointed towards durr. And the lack of rim protection

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[HoosierHoopster 6,963]

13 minutes ago, maharkn said:

Was more pointed towards durr. And the lack of rim protection

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But that Durr vertical, wow!

:)

[BottomLine 686]

On 1/18/2022 at 11:05 PM, BottomLine said:

Don't see much hope at point guard.

Johnson - Terrible shot.  Overly emotional.  Every wild shot, drive into traffic, off balance beg for a foul from the refs is a turnover.

Phinissee - Can handle the ball against the press but can't shoot a lick.  Been trying to get the job done for 3 1/2 years.  Gonna suddenly get the job done now?  Wouldn't bet on it.

Landers - On the way to being a bust.  This team is begging for a point guard and he can't get off the bench.  That just tells you something.

Galloway - He is a wing pressed into service as a guard.  Pressing him into service as a point guard is asking far too much.  The handle just isn't there.  Against the press he is a deer in the headlights.  Outside shot is also suspect.  Leave him on the wing where he can slash and dish or shoot that drop shot.

Bates - Is the only one that might have the chops.  Offensively I think he might be an improvement on what we have.  Don't know about the defense.  I'd give him more time and see if any thing develops.

Can't see any other way out of this problem.  Who would have thought that losing Durham and Franklin would hurt us this much.

Who is this idiot!  What does he know about basketball?  How can he be so wrong?  (At least for one game)

[Stuhoo 80,531]

In my opinion?

Contrary to what he says publicly, OF COURSE Woody is considering changing the starting lineup and which combinations of players he uses together. This is exactly the kind of thing that staff sits at a conference room table and discusses.

He is not going to tip his hand --

• that would only prompt a stream of media follow-up questions and
• would allow the opposing team to game plan it.

If things don't change soon, it will just happen; we'll see the lineup 20 minutes before game time and it will be different.

Could be as soon as Penn State; what he said on his radio show has no bearing on the decision. "I haven't thought about it" will turn into "I thought about it."  After it does Woody can say he wanted to see how a different lineup would function, so he made a change; it'll be that simple.

[HoosierHoopster 6,963]

34 minutes ago, Stuhoo said:

In my opinion?

Contrary to what he says publicly, OF COURSE Woody is considering changing the starting lineup and which combinations of players he uses together. This is exactly the kind of thing that staff sits at a conference room table and discusses.

He is not going to tip his hand --

• that would only prompt a stream of media follow-up questions and
• would allow the opposing team to game plan it.

If things don't change soon, it will just happen; we'll see the lineup 20 minutes before game time and it will be different.

Could be as soon as Penn State; what he said on his radio show has no bearing on the decision. "I haven't thought about it" will turn into "I thought about it."  After it does Woody can say he wanted to see how a different lineup would function, so he made a change; it'll be that simple.

Sooner the better. It's time

[Chris007 43,920]

1 hour ago, Stuhoo said:

In my opinion?

Contrary to what he says publicly, OF COURSE Woody is considering changing the starting lineup and which combinations of players he uses together. This is exactly the kind of thing that staff sits at a conference room table and discusses.

He is not going to tip his hand --

• that would only prompt a stream of media follow-up questions and
• would allow the opposing team to game plan it.

If things don't change soon, it will just happen; we'll see the lineup 20 minutes before game time and it will be different.

Could be as soon as Penn State; what he said on his radio show has no bearing on the decision. "I haven't thought about it" will turn into "I thought about it."  After it does Woody can say he wanted to see how a different lineup would function, so he made a change; it'll be that simple.

He also said we were 5-2 in our last 7 games which is not true, we're 4-3. If you don't want to change the starting lineup fine, but change it for the second half when you see who's playing well and who's not.

[bigrod 2,871]

Just now, Chris007 said:

He also said we were 5-2 in our last 7 games which is not true, we're 4-3. If you don't want to change the starting lineup fine, but change it for the second half when you see who's playing well and who's not.

Yes - exactly!

[DChoosier 8,348]

3 hours ago, Chris007 said:

He also said we were 5-2 in our last 7 games which is not true, we're 4-3. If you don't want to change the starting lineup fine, but change it for the second half when you see who's playing well and who's not.

100%. As an example I would have started Galloway, in the second half of the PU game, after seeing him defend Ivey ( and frustrating him to the degree that he shoved him) in the first half. Not to mention that Galloway also noticeably sparked our offense that night.

 

[MikeRoberts 6,998]

9 hours ago, Chris007 said:

He also said we were 5-2 in our last 7 games which is not true, we're 4-3. If you don't want to change the starting lineup fine, but change it for the second half when you see who's playing well and who's not.

You want him to reward good play and use the bench as a teaching tool? Crazy

[IUFAN1976 3,085]

I know many won’t be happy, but don’t expect the starting lineup to be changed anytime soon.

https://www.thedailyhoosier.com/iu-basketball-mike-woodson-says-he-has-no-plans-to-change-the-starting-five/

[MikeRoberts 6,998]

24 minutes ago, IUFAN1976 said:

I know many won’t be happy, but don’t expect the starting lineup to be changed anytime soon.

https://www.thedailyhoosier.com/iu-basketball-mike-woodson-says-he-has-no-plans-to-change-the-starting-five/

Yeah, we knew that unfortunately. “It’s not who starts” but unfortunately those that finish have to dig us out of a hole too often. A crazy thought though… what if, what if we started the same guys that finish and gave that group the lions share of the court time?

[IUFAN1976 3,085]

48 minutes ago, MikeRoberts said:

Yeah, we knew that unfortunately. “It’s not who starts” but unfortunately those that finish have to dig us out of a hole too often. A crazy thought though… what if, what if we started the same guys that finish and gave that group the lions share of the court time?

Isn’t that what we all want?  I think CMW wants to give them a chance to dig themselves out of this poor start and play. I think the leash is very short for the current starters, specifically Kopp & Stewart.

[MikeRoberts 6,998]

15 minutes ago, IUFAN1976 said:

Isn’t that what we all want?  I think CMW wants to give them a chance to dig themselves out of this poor start and play. I think the leash is very short for the current starters, specifically Kopp & Stewart.

Yeah, we all want to see our best lineup play a ton, start, finish etc but he seems to have no urgency to do that. 
our starters are the 8th best lineup. I’m not seeing the urgency to be better. We are playing with one hand tied behind our back every time he does this 
we can’t get out of our own way

[BottomLine 686]

Who starts isn't really very important.  What is important is how soon coach goes to the bench and who finishes.

[IUFAN1976 3,085]

10 hours ago, MikeRoberts said:

Yeah, we all want to see our best lineup play a ton, start, finish etc but he seems to have no urgency to do that. 
our starters are the 8th best lineup. I’m not seeing the urgency to be better. We are playing with one hand tied behind our back every time he does this 
we can’t get out of our own way

There maybe something underlying here.  Maybe he made promises and don’t want to go back on it until he feels like he’s given them a fair shot.  We all think that ship has sailed but he is the head coach and it goes by his timeline.  He’ll decide when enough is enough.

Honestly, if he made one change by sitting Kopp and inserting Galloway or Geronimo, we would all be happy or pacified!  

[Dillion 347]

There maybe something underlying here.  Maybe he made promises and don’t want to go back on it until he feels like he’s given them a fair shot.  We all think that ship has sailed but he is the head coach and it goes by his timeline.  He’ll decide when enough is enough.
Honestly, if he made one change by sitting Kopp and inserting Galloway or Geronimo, we would all be happy or pacified!  

This is where I am at. I think Atleast 1 of them needs to be starting and on the floor. I just don’t think both should play at the same time a ton. We need them because the are the only shooters on the team.


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[HoosierCoop 3,927]

Coach will do what coach will do.  I respect that.

However, by opinion, we've been waiting on Kopp to do something special.........<crickets>

Starting Galloway = energy drive to create offensive opportunities (which benefits Stewart), better/proven defensive positioning (don't let teams start hot), a better ability to finish at the rim (which I have yet to see Kopp do).

I'm sorry, I don't see how standing in a corner hoping that you get a wide open shot provides any value.

[HoosierAloha 30,068]

18 minutes ago, HoosierCoop said:

Coach will do what coach will do.  I respect that.

However, by opinion, we've been waiting on Kopp to do something special.........<crickets>

Starting Galloway = energy drive to create offensive opportunities (which benefits Stewart), better/proven defensive positioning (don't let teams start hot), a better ability to finish at the rim (which I have yet to see Kopp do).

I'm sorry, I don't see how standing in a corner hoping that you get a wide open shot provides any value.

He's hitting 33% from deep on just over 2 attempts per game in conference play... spacing!

[Honkyman 1,670]

Galloway is hitting 23% from 3-point range. He can't shoot really from anywhere and his drives to the basket have become predictable. Just like last season, teams are figuring out how to guard him. Yes, Galloway brings energy which is a good quality for a player who comes off the bench. If Bates would ever start playing at his potential, he would be the best candidate to move up because (potentially anyway) he can hit from the outside and drive to the basket. 

[HoosierCoop 3,927]

3-point range isn't great. But when Trey is in, I see our points in transition go up tremendously.  In our bigger wins, that has been a stat that has stood out.