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5 hours ago, RaceToTheTop said:

I guess the NCAA will automatically make us a top 4 seed.  Seems like they reward out of conference SOS regardless of result.

I hope this is the opposite of the 2016 team. They went 15-3 in the B1G but got punished for no major out of conference wins (Maui was a disaster and so was the Duke game). I'm okay with them going 14-6 and maybe not winning the regular season n the B1G IF they can go 2-2 or maybe even 3-1 against the big four games. 

Side note: We all talk about 2013 and rightfully so but I believe the 2012 and 2016 teams could have made the final four in the right bracket. Just got stuck against UK (National Champs) and UNC (National Runner-Ups). Both teams had some bad losses that prevented them from getting a 3 seed and better matchups. 

Posted
2 hours ago, HoosierFan1994 said:

I asked this earlier to someone..UNC/IU has to be the biggest game at Assembly Hall since Michigan/IU in 2013 right? Pretty sure Michigan was #1 IU was #3. Good chance IU and UNC are both top ten teams when they meet. 

In my "fandom" since 02 I think the biggest home games that stand out are: 

2005 #1 Duke

2008 #9 Michigan State (Gameday)

2011 #1 Kentucky

2013 #1 Michigan

2022 #4 Purdue 

Might be taking some of my housing profit to go to this game. I've been dying to go to a major game at Assembly Hall...just haven't been a lot to go to. 

When we played and beat UNC in 2016, they were #3 and we were #13. They ended up winning the national title, we fell into the bottomless pit.

https://www.sports-reference.com/cbb/boxscores/2016-11-30-indiana.html

Isiah Thomas Holding Up A Gigantic Crying Michael Jordan Face As Indiana  Pummeled UNC Was Savagely Disrespectful | Barstool Sports

Posted

 

That's a brutal 3 game stretch lol. Love it.

  • vs. North CarolinaNov. 30 (Bloomington, Ind.)
  • vs. Arizona, Dec. 10, 2022 (Las Vegas, Nev.) — not finalized
  • at Kansas, Dec. 17, 2022 (Lawrence, Kan.)

 

At least if we get Nova in the Gavitt game, it'll fall before our 3 cupcakes. 

 

14 hours ago, btownqb said:

It doesn't sound practical to get Nova... and play all 4 of those schools. Who knows? 

But... @Xavier wouldn't be bad. I could see us at Creighton, SH, Providence. Any of those schools would be solid non cons. 

No problem with playing Nova though. 

I dug into stuff going down the rabbit hole this week, and below is what I've found. 

Here's our past Gavitt games

  • 2021 St Johns
  • 2020 Covid Cancel, but we did play Butler later
  • 2019 DNP, but we did play UConn
  • 2018 Marquette, and we also played Butler later
  • 2017 at Seton Hall
  • 2016 DNP, but we did play Butler
  • 2015 Creighton (#5 PS this year), and we also played St Johns later

I looked at the GG rules/agreements, etc. earlier, and here's what I found.

8 games per year. Each BE team is supposed to play min 6 games. Each B10 min 4. Since the 2020 season was canceled, this won't happen, but I'm sure they'll try to get as close as possible. I'd assume the targets of 6 and 4 and cut down to 5 and 3?

  • BE teams that have played 6 (met commitment): Creighton, DePaul, so good chance they won't play this year.
  • BE teams that have played 5 (likely met Covid reduced commitment): Marquette, Providence, SH, SJs
  • BE teams that have played 4: Butler, Georgetown, Nova, Xavier (all probably a given to play in the GGs)
  • BE Other: UConn joined the conference recently and had not played any GGs, so assume they are exempt. 
  • B10 who have played 4 (met commitment): IU, IL, UM, NE, OSU, RU, WI
  • B10 who have played 3 (likely met Covid reduced commitment): Iowa, Maryland, MN, NW, PSU, PU, 
  • B10 who have played 2 (below): MSU 
  • So likely (not guaranteed) to see Butler, Georgetown, Nova, Xavier, Marquette, Providence, SH, and SJs as the 8
  • So likely (not guaranteed) from the B10 you'll have MSU, Iowa, Maryland, MN, NW, PSU, PU, IU as the 8 based on IU was assumed and the other 7 teams haven't met their target.

So assuming they don't want to repeat past Gavitt matchups (SJs, Marquette, SH, Creighton), assuming they'll stay away from the frequent in-state played Butler, IU's potential likely is.

  • #16 Nova
  • #24 UConn (probably not since we played them OoC, not GGs, in 2019, and because they haven't played in the GGs at all)
  • Xavier (previously the #25 in PS ranks)
  • Georgetown
  • Providence
  • DePaul (already met commitment target, so likely not in the mix)

Looking at the other top tier B10 teams (assuming they'll try to match tiers...)

  • UM - already hit target and doesn't list the GG on their future schedules page
  • IL - already hit target and can't find GG mentioned as a PS game
  • OSU - already hit their target, and can't find any mention of GG in preseason scheduling
  • MSU - under target, and likely to get a top BE matchup

So guessing it will be IU and MSU, playing Nova and Xavier. Now the weird UConn situation could throw a wrench in the whole thing. 

But my guess will be Nova. We've already had 3 homes games, so guessing on the road. Nova has only had 2 home games.

 

This guy did the math and digging too it seams

 

Posted
6 hours ago, Southside said:

 

That's a brutal 3 game stretch lol. Love it.

  • vs. North CarolinaNov. 30 (Bloomington, Ind.)
  • vs. Arizona, Dec. 10, 2022 (Las Vegas, Nev.) — not finalized
  • at Kansas, Dec. 17, 2022 (Lawrence, Kan.)

 

At least if we get Nova in the Gavitt game, it'll fall before our 3 cupcakes. 

 

I dug into stuff going down the rabbit hole this week, and below is what I've found. 

Here's our past Gavitt games

  • 2021 St Johns
  • 2020 Covid Cancel, but we did play Butler later
  • 2019 DNP, but we did play UConn
  • 2018 Marquette, and we also played Butler later
  • 2017 at Seton Hall
  • 2016 DNP, but we did play Butler
  • 2015 Creighton (#5 PS this year), and we also played St Johns later

I looked at the GG rules/agreements, etc. earlier, and here's what I found.

8 games per year. Each BE team is supposed to play min 6 games. Each B10 min 4. Since the 2020 season was canceled, this won't happen, but I'm sure they'll try to get as close as possible. I'd assume the targets of 6 and 4 and cut down to 5 and 3?

  • BE teams that have played 6 (met commitment): Creighton, DePaul, so good chance they won't play this year.
  • BE teams that have played 5 (likely met Covid reduced commitment): Marquette, Providence, SH, SJs
  • BE teams that have played 4: Butler, Georgetown, Nova, Xavier (all probably a given to play in the GGs)
  • BE Other: UConn joined the conference recently and had not played any GGs, so assume they are exempt. 
  • B10 who have played 4 (met commitment): IU, IL, UM, NE, OSU, RU, WI
  • B10 who have played 3 (likely met Covid reduced commitment): Iowa, Maryland, MN, NW, PSU, PU, 
  • B10 who have played 2 (below): MSU 
  • So likely (not guaranteed) to see Butler, Georgetown, Nova, Xavier, Marquette, Providence, SH, and SJs as the 8
  • So likely (not guaranteed) from the B10 you'll have MSU, Iowa, Maryland, MN, NW, PSU, PU, IU as the 8 based on IU was assumed and the other 7 teams haven't met their target.

So assuming they don't want to repeat past Gavitt matchups (SJs, Marquette, SH, Creighton), assuming they'll stay away from the frequent in-state played Butler, IU's potential likely is.

  • #16 Nova
  • #24 UConn (probably not since we played them OoC, not GGs, in 2019, and because they haven't played in the GGs at all)
  • Xavier (previously the #25 in PS ranks)
  • Georgetown
  • Providence
  • DePaul (already met commitment target, so likely not in the mix)

Looking at the other top tier B10 teams (assuming they'll try to match tiers...)

  • UM - already hit target and doesn't list the GG on their future schedules page
  • IL - already hit target and can't find GG mentioned as a PS game
  • OSU - already hit their target, and can't find any mention of GG in preseason scheduling
  • MSU - under target, and likely to get a top BE matchup

So guessing it will be IU and MSU, playing Nova and Xavier. Now the weird UConn situation could throw a wrench in the whole thing. 

But my guess will be Nova. We've already had 3 homes games, so guessing on the road. Nova has only had 2 home games.

 

This guy did the math and digging too it seams

 

It really does all make sense.  Fingers crossed we get them and we beat them. Would be a big win 

Posted
6 hours ago, Southside said:

 

That's a brutal 3 game stretch lol. Love it.

  • vs. North CarolinaNov. 30 (Bloomington, Ind.)
  • vs. Arizona, Dec. 10, 2022 (Las Vegas, Nev.) — not finalized
  • at Kansas, Dec. 17, 2022 (Lawrence, Kan.)

 

At least if we get Nova in the Gavitt game, it'll fall before our 3 cupcakes. 

 

I dug into stuff going down the rabbit hole this week, and below is what I've found. 

Here's our past Gavitt games

  • 2021 St Johns
  • 2020 Covid Cancel, but we did play Butler later
  • 2019 DNP, but we did play UConn
  • 2018 Marquette, and we also played Butler later
  • 2017 at Seton Hall
  • 2016 DNP, but we did play Butler
  • 2015 Creighton (#5 PS this year), and we also played St Johns later

I looked at the GG rules/agreements, etc. earlier, and here's what I found.

8 games per year. Each BE team is supposed to play min 6 games. Each B10 min 4. Since the 2020 season was canceled, this won't happen, but I'm sure they'll try to get as close as possible. I'd assume the targets of 6 and 4 and cut down to 5 and 3?

  • BE teams that have played 6 (met commitment): Creighton, DePaul, so good chance they won't play this year.
  • BE teams that have played 5 (likely met Covid reduced commitment): Marquette, Providence, SH, SJs
  • BE teams that have played 4: Butler, Georgetown, Nova, Xavier (all probably a given to play in the GGs)
  • BE Other: UConn joined the conference recently and had not played any GGs, so assume they are exempt. 
  • B10 who have played 4 (met commitment): IU, IL, UM, NE, OSU, RU, WI
  • B10 who have played 3 (likely met Covid reduced commitment): Iowa, Maryland, MN, NW, PSU, PU, 
  • B10 who have played 2 (below): MSU 
  • So likely (not guaranteed) to see Butler, Georgetown, Nova, Xavier, Marquette, Providence, SH, and SJs as the 8
  • So likely (not guaranteed) from the B10 you'll have MSU, Iowa, Maryland, MN, NW, PSU, PU, IU as the 8 based on IU was assumed and the other 7 teams haven't met their target.

So assuming they don't want to repeat past Gavitt matchups (SJs, Marquette, SH, Creighton), assuming they'll stay away from the frequent in-state played Butler, IU's potential likely is.

  • #16 Nova
  • #24 UConn (probably not since we played them OoC, not GGs, in 2019, and because they haven't played in the GGs at all)
  • Xavier (previously the #25 in PS ranks)
  • Georgetown
  • Providence
  • DePaul (already met commitment target, so likely not in the mix)

Looking at the other top tier B10 teams (assuming they'll try to match tiers...)

  • UM - already hit target and doesn't list the GG on their future schedules page
  • IL - already hit target and can't find GG mentioned as a PS game
  • OSU - already hit their target, and can't find any mention of GG in preseason scheduling
  • MSU - under target, and likely to get a top BE matchup

So guessing it will be IU and MSU, playing Nova and Xavier. Now the weird UConn situation could throw a wrench in the whole thing. 

But my guess will be Nova. We've already had 3 homes games, so guessing on the road. Nova has only had 2 home games.

 

This guy did the math and digging too it seams

 

Good work. I say bring them on...Obviously we all want to go 3-1/4-0 against KU, Arizona, UNC, and possibly Villanova. But even going 2-2 (which I think is possible) would be huge. 

Posted
1 hour ago, Brass Cannon said:

It really does all make sense.  Fingers crossed we get them and we beat them. Would be a big win 

Yup. Nova or Xavier. I don't care which to be honest. Xavier is better fans to travel. Nova would likely draw bigger ratings. 

But PS games vs AZ, UNC, Kansas, and Nova would be pretty crazy lol. Glad we have the cupcakes. 

Watch the BE throw us a curve ball though in terms of matchups lol. 

53 minutes ago, HoosierFan1994 said:

Good work. I say bring them on...Obviously we all want to go 3-1/4-0 against KU, Arizona, UNC, and possibly Villanova. But even going 2-2 (which I think is possible) would be huge. 

I'd be more than happy with 2-2 even if it's Xavier and not Nova. Regardless, it'll boost SoS big time, but most of all, help us improve for the regular season. 

Posted
1 hour ago, Loaded Chicken Sandwich said:

Last time we played Xavier we got whooped up on a bit and we even had Eric Gordon. Before that we actually beat them. I can't which year but I do remember Xavier had Romain Sato and I think it was a pretty good game. That was the game I learned that I shared a name with a university and became a fan out of default. 

IU played Xavier in the second round of the 93 tournament at the RCA Dome which I attended.

 

Posted

I would’ve been happy getting rid of the 300+ ranked teams (which we still should do). This is looking to be a killer non-conf schedule. I know some of it is the cross conf matchups but that’s also partly based on our more lofty expectations. Tip of the hat  to Woody and the administration for creating an exciting start to the season. 

Posted
2 hours ago, str8baller said:

I would’ve been happy getting rid of the 300+ ranked teams (which we still should do). This is looking to be a killer non-conf schedule. I know some of it is the cross conf matchups but that’s also partly based on our more lofty expectations. Tip of the hat  to Woody and the administration for creating an exciting start to the season. 

And hoping KY and Louisville get added regularly in the near future. 

Posted
16 hours ago, Southside said:

And hoping KY and Louisville get added regularly in the near future. 

I’d love to get UK back on. I don’t even necessarily disagree with doing nuetral sites, although I hate to give in to Cal. But with the crossroads gone, I like the idea of having a game in Indy. 

Posted

I’d love to play UK, and maybe I’m in the minority here, buuuut…I don’t hate the status quo. No need to throw Cal a bone, occasionally we play in the tournament, and IU can build a nice schedule without UK. If Kenny Payne wants a couple years to get ready for a home-and-home series, we’ll wait.

Posted
12 minutes ago, lillurk said:

I’d love to play UK, and maybe I’m in the minority here, buuuut…I don’t hate the status quo. No need to throw Cal a bone, occasionally we play in the tournament, and IU can build a nice schedule without UK. If Kenny Payne wants a couple years to get ready for a home-and-home series, we’ll wait.

I was thinking the other day it would be interesting to kinda model something after the cross roads classic but it be IU and Purdue vs UK and U6

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