HoosierFan1994 Posted June 24, 2022 Posted June 24, 2022 5 hours ago, RaceToTheTop said: I guess the NCAA will automatically make us a top 4 seed. Seems like they reward out of conference SOS regardless of result. I hope this is the opposite of the 2016 team. They went 15-3 in the B1G but got punished for no major out of conference wins (Maui was a disaster and so was the Duke game). I'm okay with them going 14-6 and maybe not winning the regular season n the B1G IF they can go 2-2 or maybe even 3-1 against the big four games. Side note: We all talk about 2013 and rightfully so but I believe the 2012 and 2016 teams could have made the final four in the right bracket. Just got stuck against UK (National Champs) and UNC (National Runner-Ups). Both teams had some bad losses that prevented them from getting a 3 seed and better matchups. HoosierHoopster 1 Quote
LIHoosier Posted June 25, 2022 Posted June 25, 2022 2 hours ago, HoosierFan1994 said: I asked this earlier to someone..UNC/IU has to be the biggest game at Assembly Hall since Michigan/IU in 2013 right? Pretty sure Michigan was #1 IU was #3. Good chance IU and UNC are both top ten teams when they meet. In my "fandom" since 02 I think the biggest home games that stand out are: 2005 #1 Duke 2008 #9 Michigan State (Gameday) 2011 #1 Kentucky 2013 #1 Michigan 2022 #4 Purdue Might be taking some of my housing profit to go to this game. I've been dying to go to a major game at Assembly Hall...just haven't been a lot to go to. When we played and beat UNC in 2016, they were #3 and we were #13. They ended up winning the national title, we fell into the bottomless pit. https://www.sports-reference.com/cbb/boxscores/2016-11-30-indiana.html lillurk and ALASKA HOOSIER 2 Quote
HoosierHoops1 Posted June 25, 2022 Posted June 25, 2022 1 hour ago, LIHoosier said: When we played and beat UNC in 2016, they were #3 and we were #13. They ended up winning the national title, we fell into the bottomless pit. https://www.sports-reference.com/cbb/boxscores/2016-11-30-indiana.html We beat a top 5 Kansas that season as well. ALASKA HOOSIER 1 Quote
HoosierHoops1 Posted June 25, 2022 Posted June 25, 2022 1 hour ago, LIHoosier said: When we played and beat UNC in 2016, they were #3 and we were #13. They ended up winning the national title, we fell into the bottomless pit. https://www.sports-reference.com/cbb/boxscores/2016-11-30-indiana.html Isn't that the game we lost OG for the season? Quote
eddy4iu Posted June 25, 2022 Posted June 25, 2022 2 hours ago, LIHoosier said: When we played and beat UNC in 2016, they were #3 and we were #13. They ended up winning the national title, we fell into the bottomless pit. https://www.sports-reference.com/cbb/boxscores/2016-11-30-indiana.html Holy **** - I'm ALMOST in that photo. Quote
Southside Posted June 25, 2022 Posted June 25, 2022 That's a brutal 3 game stretch lol. Love it. vs. North Carolina, Nov. 30 (Bloomington, Ind.) vs. Arizona, Dec. 10, 2022 (Las Vegas, Nev.) — not finalized at Kansas, Dec. 17, 2022 (Lawrence, Kan.) At least if we get Nova in the Gavitt game, it'll fall before our 3 cupcakes. 14 hours ago, btownqb said: It doesn't sound practical to get Nova... and play all 4 of those schools. Who knows? But... @Xavier wouldn't be bad. I could see us at Creighton, SH, Providence. Any of those schools would be solid non cons. No problem with playing Nova though. I dug into stuff going down the rabbit hole this week, and below is what I've found. Here's our past Gavitt games 2021 St Johns 2020 Covid Cancel, but we did play Butler later 2019 DNP, but we did play UConn 2018 Marquette, and we also played Butler later 2017 at Seton Hall 2016 DNP, but we did play Butler 2015 Creighton (#5 PS this year), and we also played St Johns later I looked at the GG rules/agreements, etc. earlier, and here's what I found. 8 games per year. Each BE team is supposed to play min 6 games. Each B10 min 4. Since the 2020 season was canceled, this won't happen, but I'm sure they'll try to get as close as possible. I'd assume the targets of 6 and 4 and cut down to 5 and 3? BE teams that have played 6 (met commitment): Creighton, DePaul, so good chance they won't play this year. BE teams that have played 5 (likely met Covid reduced commitment): Marquette, Providence, SH, SJs BE teams that have played 4: Butler, Georgetown, Nova, Xavier (all probably a given to play in the GGs) BE Other: UConn joined the conference recently and had not played any GGs, so assume they are exempt. B10 who have played 4 (met commitment): IU, IL, UM, NE, OSU, RU, WI B10 who have played 3 (likely met Covid reduced commitment): Iowa, Maryland, MN, NW, PSU, PU, B10 who have played 2 (below): MSU So likely (not guaranteed) to see Butler, Georgetown, Nova, Xavier, Marquette, Providence, SH, and SJs as the 8 So likely (not guaranteed) from the B10 you'll have MSU, Iowa, Maryland, MN, NW, PSU, PU, IU as the 8 based on IU was assumed and the other 7 teams haven't met their target. So assuming they don't want to repeat past Gavitt matchups (SJs, Marquette, SH, Creighton), assuming they'll stay away from the frequent in-state played Butler, IU's potential likely is. #16 Nova #24 UConn (probably not since we played them OoC, not GGs, in 2019, and because they haven't played in the GGs at all) Xavier (previously the #25 in PS ranks) Georgetown Providence DePaul (already met commitment target, so likely not in the mix) Looking at the other top tier B10 teams (assuming they'll try to match tiers...) UM - already hit target and doesn't list the GG on their future schedules page IL - already hit target and can't find GG mentioned as a PS game OSU - already hit their target, and can't find any mention of GG in preseason scheduling MSU - under target, and likely to get a top BE matchup So guessing it will be IU and MSU, playing Nova and Xavier. Now the weird UConn situation could throw a wrench in the whole thing. But my guess will be Nova. We've already had 3 homes games, so guessing on the road. Nova has only had 2 home games. This guy did the math and digging too it seams HoosierFan1994, thebigweave, lillurk and 3 others 6 Quote
Brass Cannon Posted June 25, 2022 Posted June 25, 2022 6 hours ago, Southside said: That's a brutal 3 game stretch lol. Love it. vs. North Carolina, Nov. 30 (Bloomington, Ind.) vs. Arizona, Dec. 10, 2022 (Las Vegas, Nev.) — not finalized at Kansas, Dec. 17, 2022 (Lawrence, Kan.) At least if we get Nova in the Gavitt game, it'll fall before our 3 cupcakes. I dug into stuff going down the rabbit hole this week, and below is what I've found. Here's our past Gavitt games 2021 St Johns 2020 Covid Cancel, but we did play Butler later 2019 DNP, but we did play UConn 2018 Marquette, and we also played Butler later 2017 at Seton Hall 2016 DNP, but we did play Butler 2015 Creighton (#5 PS this year), and we also played St Johns later I looked at the GG rules/agreements, etc. earlier, and here's what I found. 8 games per year. Each BE team is supposed to play min 6 games. Each B10 min 4. Since the 2020 season was canceled, this won't happen, but I'm sure they'll try to get as close as possible. I'd assume the targets of 6 and 4 and cut down to 5 and 3? BE teams that have played 6 (met commitment): Creighton, DePaul, so good chance they won't play this year. BE teams that have played 5 (likely met Covid reduced commitment): Marquette, Providence, SH, SJs BE teams that have played 4: Butler, Georgetown, Nova, Xavier (all probably a given to play in the GGs) BE Other: UConn joined the conference recently and had not played any GGs, so assume they are exempt. B10 who have played 4 (met commitment): IU, IL, UM, NE, OSU, RU, WI B10 who have played 3 (likely met Covid reduced commitment): Iowa, Maryland, MN, NW, PSU, PU, B10 who have played 2 (below): MSU So likely (not guaranteed) to see Butler, Georgetown, Nova, Xavier, Marquette, Providence, SH, and SJs as the 8 So likely (not guaranteed) from the B10 you'll have MSU, Iowa, Maryland, MN, NW, PSU, PU, IU as the 8 based on IU was assumed and the other 7 teams haven't met their target. So assuming they don't want to repeat past Gavitt matchups (SJs, Marquette, SH, Creighton), assuming they'll stay away from the frequent in-state played Butler, IU's potential likely is. #16 Nova #24 UConn (probably not since we played them OoC, not GGs, in 2019, and because they haven't played in the GGs at all) Xavier (previously the #25 in PS ranks) Georgetown Providence DePaul (already met commitment target, so likely not in the mix) Looking at the other top tier B10 teams (assuming they'll try to match tiers...) UM - already hit target and doesn't list the GG on their future schedules page IL - already hit target and can't find GG mentioned as a PS game OSU - already hit their target, and can't find any mention of GG in preseason scheduling MSU - under target, and likely to get a top BE matchup So guessing it will be IU and MSU, playing Nova and Xavier. Now the weird UConn situation could throw a wrench in the whole thing. But my guess will be Nova. We've already had 3 homes games, so guessing on the road. Nova has only had 2 home games. This guy did the math and digging too it seams It really does all make sense. Fingers crossed we get them and we beat them. Would be a big win Southside 1 Quote
HoosierFan1994 Posted June 25, 2022 Posted June 25, 2022 11 hours ago, LIHoosier said: When we played and beat UNC in 2016, they were #3 and we were #13. They ended up winning the national title, we fell into the bottomless pit. https://www.sports-reference.com/cbb/boxscores/2016-11-30-indiana.html True that has to be it. Very much possible IU would've been #1 or #2 had they not lost to Fort Wayne the week before. What a shame that season was. Quote
HoosierFan1994 Posted June 25, 2022 Posted June 25, 2022 6 hours ago, Southside said: That's a brutal 3 game stretch lol. Love it. vs. North Carolina, Nov. 30 (Bloomington, Ind.) vs. Arizona, Dec. 10, 2022 (Las Vegas, Nev.) — not finalized at Kansas, Dec. 17, 2022 (Lawrence, Kan.) At least if we get Nova in the Gavitt game, it'll fall before our 3 cupcakes. I dug into stuff going down the rabbit hole this week, and below is what I've found. Here's our past Gavitt games 2021 St Johns 2020 Covid Cancel, but we did play Butler later 2019 DNP, but we did play UConn 2018 Marquette, and we also played Butler later 2017 at Seton Hall 2016 DNP, but we did play Butler 2015 Creighton (#5 PS this year), and we also played St Johns later I looked at the GG rules/agreements, etc. earlier, and here's what I found. 8 games per year. Each BE team is supposed to play min 6 games. Each B10 min 4. Since the 2020 season was canceled, this won't happen, but I'm sure they'll try to get as close as possible. I'd assume the targets of 6 and 4 and cut down to 5 and 3? BE teams that have played 6 (met commitment): Creighton, DePaul, so good chance they won't play this year. BE teams that have played 5 (likely met Covid reduced commitment): Marquette, Providence, SH, SJs BE teams that have played 4: Butler, Georgetown, Nova, Xavier (all probably a given to play in the GGs) BE Other: UConn joined the conference recently and had not played any GGs, so assume they are exempt. B10 who have played 4 (met commitment): IU, IL, UM, NE, OSU, RU, WI B10 who have played 3 (likely met Covid reduced commitment): Iowa, Maryland, MN, NW, PSU, PU, B10 who have played 2 (below): MSU So likely (not guaranteed) to see Butler, Georgetown, Nova, Xavier, Marquette, Providence, SH, and SJs as the 8 So likely (not guaranteed) from the B10 you'll have MSU, Iowa, Maryland, MN, NW, PSU, PU, IU as the 8 based on IU was assumed and the other 7 teams haven't met their target. So assuming they don't want to repeat past Gavitt matchups (SJs, Marquette, SH, Creighton), assuming they'll stay away from the frequent in-state played Butler, IU's potential likely is. #16 Nova #24 UConn (probably not since we played them OoC, not GGs, in 2019, and because they haven't played in the GGs at all) Xavier (previously the #25 in PS ranks) Georgetown Providence DePaul (already met commitment target, so likely not in the mix) Looking at the other top tier B10 teams (assuming they'll try to match tiers...) UM - already hit target and doesn't list the GG on their future schedules page IL - already hit target and can't find GG mentioned as a PS game OSU - already hit their target, and can't find any mention of GG in preseason scheduling MSU - under target, and likely to get a top BE matchup So guessing it will be IU and MSU, playing Nova and Xavier. Now the weird UConn situation could throw a wrench in the whole thing. But my guess will be Nova. We've already had 3 homes games, so guessing on the road. Nova has only had 2 home games. This guy did the math and digging too it seams Good work. I say bring them on...Obviously we all want to go 3-1/4-0 against KU, Arizona, UNC, and possibly Villanova. But even going 2-2 (which I think is possible) would be huge. Southside 1 Quote
Southside Posted June 25, 2022 Posted June 25, 2022 1 hour ago, Brass Cannon said: It really does all make sense. Fingers crossed we get them and we beat them. Would be a big win Yup. Nova or Xavier. I don't care which to be honest. Xavier is better fans to travel. Nova would likely draw bigger ratings. But PS games vs AZ, UNC, Kansas, and Nova would be pretty crazy lol. Glad we have the cupcakes. Watch the BE throw us a curve ball though in terms of matchups lol. 53 minutes ago, HoosierFan1994 said: Good work. I say bring them on...Obviously we all want to go 3-1/4-0 against KU, Arizona, UNC, and possibly Villanova. But even going 2-2 (which I think is possible) would be huge. I'd be more than happy with 2-2 even if it's Xavier and not Nova. Regardless, it'll boost SoS big time, but most of all, help us improve for the regular season. HoosierFan1994 1 Quote
LIHoosier Posted June 25, 2022 Posted June 25, 2022 11 hours ago, HoosierHoops1 said: Isn't that the game we lost OG for the season? We lost OG at Penn St, the game JBJ won at the buzzer. OG had a minor injury after the UNC game and missed a couple weeks. HoosierHoops1 and HoosierHoopster 2 Quote
Loaded Chicken Sandwich Posted June 25, 2022 Posted June 25, 2022 Last time we played Xavier we got whooped up on a bit and we even had Eric Gordon. Before that we actually beat them. I can't which year but I do remember Xavier had Romain Sato and I think it was a pretty good game. That was the game I learned that I shared a name with a university and became a fan out of default. Southside 1 Quote
IU Scott Posted June 25, 2022 Posted June 25, 2022 1 hour ago, Loaded Chicken Sandwich said: Last time we played Xavier we got whooped up on a bit and we even had Eric Gordon. Before that we actually beat them. I can't which year but I do remember Xavier had Romain Sato and I think it was a pretty good game. That was the game I learned that I shared a name with a university and became a fan out of default. IU played Xavier in the second round of the 93 tournament at the RCA Dome which I attended. Quote
Loaded Chicken Sandwich Posted June 25, 2022 Posted June 25, 2022 30 minutes ago, IU Scott said: IU played Xavier in the second round of the 93 tournament at the RCA Dome which I attended. I want born at that point just yet .. still a few months away lol. Quote
str8baller Posted June 25, 2022 Posted June 25, 2022 I would’ve been happy getting rid of the 300+ ranked teams (which we still should do). This is looking to be a killer non-conf schedule. I know some of it is the cross conf matchups but that’s also partly based on our more lofty expectations. Tip of the hat to Woody and the administration for creating an exciting start to the season. J34 and bird4par 2 Quote
Southside Posted June 26, 2022 Posted June 26, 2022 2 hours ago, str8baller said: I would’ve been happy getting rid of the 300+ ranked teams (which we still should do). This is looking to be a killer non-conf schedule. I know some of it is the cross conf matchups but that’s also partly based on our more lofty expectations. Tip of the hat to Woody and the administration for creating an exciting start to the season. And hoping KY and Louisville get added regularly in the near future. Quote
str8baller Posted June 26, 2022 Posted June 26, 2022 16 hours ago, Southside said: And hoping KY and Louisville get added regularly in the near future. I’d love to get UK back on. I don’t even necessarily disagree with doing nuetral sites, although I hate to give in to Cal. But with the crossroads gone, I like the idea of having a game in Indy. Southside, thebigweave and lillurk 3 Quote
lillurk Posted June 27, 2022 Posted June 27, 2022 I’d love to play UK, and maybe I’m in the minority here, buuuut…I don’t hate the status quo. No need to throw Cal a bone, occasionally we play in the tournament, and IU can build a nice schedule without UK. If Kenny Payne wants a couple years to get ready for a home-and-home series, we’ll wait. hoosierbgh 1 Quote
Brass Cannon Posted June 27, 2022 Posted June 27, 2022 12 minutes ago, lillurk said: I’d love to play UK, and maybe I’m in the minority here, buuuut…I don’t hate the status quo. No need to throw Cal a bone, occasionally we play in the tournament, and IU can build a nice schedule without UK. If Kenny Payne wants a couple years to get ready for a home-and-home series, we’ll wait. I was thinking the other day it would be interesting to kinda model something after the cross roads classic but it be IU and Purdue vs UK and U6 lillurk, HoosierHoopster, str8baller and 1 other 4 Quote
lillurk Posted June 27, 2022 Posted June 27, 2022 1 hour ago, Brass Cannon said: I was thinking the other day it would be interesting to kinda model something after the cross roads classic but it be IU and Purdue vs UK and U6 Doooooo itt HoosierHoopster 1 Quote
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