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[RaceToTheTop 26,313]

Latrell Wrightsell to Alabama.  Backcourt getting crowded there.

[GloryDays 5,928]

2 hours ago, Honkyman said:

Overall probably accurate except Banks better than Kopp. Obviously, they are different players but Banks is more like Jordan Geronimo than Miller Kopp.  Banks brings rebounding and put backs that Kopp didn't provide. But he won't match Kopp's shooting ability. Maybe that adds up to a net plus but Banks at the 3 leaves IU without a reliable 3-point shooter that stretches the floor.

Banks was a very good shooter in highschool.

 How many shots did he take last year in his limited playing time? Surely not enough to write him off as a poor shooter.

You may be right but I don't think so.

[Class of '66 Old Fart 85,672]

Friendly reminder that "reaching out" and "receiving interest" are pretty nebulous terms in the recruiting dictionary.

[Artie86 2,040]

13 minutes ago, Class of '66 Old Fart said:

Friendly reminder that "reaching out" and "receiving interest" are pretty nebulous terms in the recruiting dictionary.

I love Astronomy ! Lol

[Tom White 1,435]

2 hours ago, Henryville Hoosier said:

What...no Tennessee!

And no IU.

[JSHoosier 20,463]

35 minutes ago, Class of '66 Old Fart said:

Friendly reminder that "reaching out" and "receiving interest" are pretty nebulous terms in the recruiting dictionary.

Yeah, we could've reached out even if the response was to get lost.

[RaceToTheTop 26,313]

52 minutes ago, Class of '66 Old Fart said:

Friendly reminder that "reaching out" and "receiving interest" are pretty nebulous terms in the recruiting dictionary.

Yep.  I use it more of a gauge as to what the staff is looking at doing.  Recruits also like to give out the laundry list of teams that have touched base even if they eliminated most of them in their minds.

[Loaded Chicken Sandwich 8,797]

1 hour ago, RaceToTheTop said:

After Blackmon’s injury, the bulk of the games had a starting lineup of:

Ferrell, Johnson, Harttman, Williams, Bryant 

But at the beginning of the year, Hartmann wasn’t starting and Blackmon was.  So at that point Blackmon and johnson were the 2 and 3.  After Blackmon’s injury, Johnson started at the 2.  Johnson missed 5 games and didn’t start 8 others. Biefeldt started 5 of those games and zeisloft 8.  

you’re correct that we did go with three guards before Blackmon’s injury.  It was more sporadic after his injury.  The primary beneficiaries of Blackmon’s time were actually OG and Juwan.
 

 

 

 

Correct. There were some odd times in there. Majority of RJs career though he was the "3." And he was good, even at 6-3. He was definitely tougher and stronger than JBJ though. And willing to play defense.

[Golfman25 5,765]

4 hours ago, str8baller said:

What exactly was he going to “blow up”? And how would that have helped us?

Simple.  Let the existing players leave, rebuild, and bring in your own guys who match the style of play you want to play.  Would not have had immediate success and probably would have sucked for a few years since the Miller era gave us nothing.  But right now we would hopefully be looking up to a successful third year vs. a down third year.  As it stands, we spent 2 years playing a style Woodson didn't really "want" to play -- or at least one that he had never coached before (per his own words).  Nobody really knows what a true Woodson team would look like, including recruits.  How many recruits may be out there thinking "well you're just going to dump it into Ware, TJD 2 is not for me."  

Not saying it would have helped us or hurt us -- It just is what it is.  

[Golfman25 5,765]

4 hours ago, Loaded Chicken Sandwich said:

Well you basically tell everyone to take a hike except for TJD. Still bring in Xavier Johnson. Go grab a bunch of athletic shooters out of the portal.

Not sure he even had to go that far.  If you remember, pretty much everyone was gone.  He had to "recruit" them back.  

[TheWatShot 14,269]

12 minutes ago, Golfman25 said:

Simple.  Let the existing players leave, rebuild, and bring in your own guys who match the style of play you want to play.  Would not have had immediate success and probably would have sucked for a few years since the Miller era gave us nothing.  But right now we would hopefully be looking up to a successful third year vs. a down third year.  As it stands, we spent 2 years playing a style Woodson didn't really "want" to play -- or at least one that he had never coached before (per his own words).  Nobody really knows what a true Woodson team would look like, including recruits.  How many recruits may be out there thinking "well you're just going to dump it into Ware, TJD 2 is not for me."  

Not saying it would have helped us or hurt us -- It just is what it is.  

You can't afford to suck for 2 years when you hire a 63 year old coach. 

[Scotty R 2,281]

17 minutes ago, Golfman25 said:

Simple.  Let the existing players leave, rebuild, and bring in your own guys who match the style of play you want to play.  Would not have had immediate success and probably would have sucked for a few years since the Miller era gave us nothing.  But right now we would hopefully be looking up to a successful third year vs. a down third year.  As it stands, we spent 2 years playing a style Woodson didn't really "want" to play -- or at least one that he had never coached before (per his own words).  Nobody really knows what a true Woodson team would look like, including recruits.  How many recruits may be out there thinking "well you're just going to dump it into Ware, TJD 2 is not for me."  

Not saying it would have helped us or hurt us -- It just is what it is.  

You know if we sucked the first two years this fan base would have been calling for his head. He did the right thing because he at least got us competing again and got to the tournament. Some fans still isn't  behind him even though we had two good seasons so what do you think it would be like with two bad seasons 

[Golfman25 5,765]

6 minutes ago, TheWatShot said:

You can't afford to suck for 2 years when you hire a 63 year old coach. 

Yeah.  It's going to be so much better when he's 65.  :)  

[Golfman25 5,765]

1 minute ago, Scotty R said:

You know if we sucked the first two years this fan base would have been calling for his head. He did the right thing because he at least got us competing again and got to the tournament. Some fans still isn't  behind him even though we had two good seasons so what do you think it would be like with two bad seasons 

If you read my post, I said most of "us" were good with it.  I thought it was the proper move.  But we all knew this upcoming year would be a question mark.  

[Scotty R 2,281]

Just now, Golfman25 said:

Yeah.  It's going to be so much better when he's 65.  :)  

So what would be the difference from having two good seasons then a down year compared to 2 bad seasons hoping for a better third season. If you think we are having trouble recruiting now what do you think it would be like off two losing seasons 

[Scotty R 2,281]

Just now, Golfman25 said:

If you read my post, I said most of "us" were good with it.  I thought it was the proper move.  But we all knew this upcoming year would be a question mark.  

Might be a question mark but to early to I ow that for sure.

[str8baller 5,522]

12 hours ago, Golfman25 said:

Simple.  

That’s about the only part of the post I agree with.  
 

You’ll have to explain to me how having an NBA draft pick and near NPOY along with a one-and-done all-world freshman PG hurts recruiting. 
 

You’ll probably also have to explain how jettisoning  those guys (and watching them succeed at places not named IU)would improve our recruiting to the point that we would be looking at an otherwise currently unattainable “successful year.” ‘Cause I’m a little fuzzy on this part too.   
 

 

I’m also confused as to how Ware ended up here playing a style that Woody doesn’t want. But I think maybe what Woody wants and what the people on this board think Woody wants are two different things. So I’m more interested in the first two questions. 

[str8baller 5,522]

12 minutes ago, TheWatShot said:

You can't afford to suck for 2 years when you hire a 63 year old coach. 

You can’t really afford it anywhere. It’s usually a slog back to the top.  I think people are oblivious to how close the whole “tear down” was to collapsing on Creans head. Had the Zellers not lived in S Indiana and had their most talented son come after the ones who were turned off by the Sampson mess, Crean probably crashes and flames out by year 5 or 6.  
 

Of course, we’d have probably fired Crean then and hired Brad Stevens to restore us to our championship glory. So blame the Zellers, I guess is what I’m really saying….

[Scotty R 2,281]

Don't know  who this Ant Wright is but this was on YouTube. I think both teams f these guys will be more of a contributor than a lot think they will. Also putting the two transfers with these two makes for a good class and we will add more to that class.

[RaceToTheTop 26,313]

Portal thread seems to be half 'we are going to suck next year' to half 'everything is fine'.  

I look forward to watching it play out instead of taking a side 8 months prior.  Truth is we could sign a stud or two and still suck or pretty go with what we have and do surprisingly well.  Personally, I'm not going to give up on a season in April nor am I going to determine they will be a success.   At my age, I spend November through March watching things develop for good or bad.