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2 hours ago, HoosierFan1994 said:

I wonder if Woodson was recruiting in the Evansville area today. Friends of mine met him at a breakfast place. He was apparently wanting to play golf at Victoria. 

I live in Evansville. Any idea where they were going to eat?

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27 minutes ago, WayneFleekHoosier said:


It’s also like Crean’s final years. We’d legitimately start with offers to 5 and 4 stars. Then to 3 stars, then we’d grab a Grant Gelon and Tim Priller.

The objective, in my opinion, is to get high enough up the echelon you get in early in the domino effect process.

Now, granted, recruiting HSchoolers is a bit of a crapshoot and even recruiting Transfers is a crapshoot, so you never really know until the ball hits the floor. And that is why college basketball is awesome.


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Cream typically had like a hundred offers out there.  I think all it did was to see a player play a good game in front of him in order to get an offer.  I believe that’s how Gelon got his.

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Uhhhh Matt Roth? 
I believe when crean was recruiting him he had 9 threes in a high school game. Possibly only 7. I can't recall either way it was to calm the critics who wound up being 100 percent right that he wasn't good

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1 minute ago, coonhounds said:

I believe when crean was recruiting him he had 9 threes in a high school game. Possibly only 7. I can't recall either way it was to calm the critics who wound up being 100 percent right that he wasn't good

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Ok I got you, I do remember that story now lol. For a second I was like “is this guy really getting grant mixed up with Matt Roth” lol. 
 

and believe me that’s not an insult on you….I’m just a moron and forgot that story lol 

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2 hours ago, Hardwood83 said:

Yeah,  in that neighborhood it appears. Hard to say exactly, because you need to remove the Senior's that have exhausted their eligibility, right? This can't be a healthy development for College basketball. 

The rich get richer and the poorer get poorer.  Such is life.

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1 hour ago, ap2345 said:

On3’s prediction thing isn’t accurate. It’s all based on social media connecting a player to different schools. Not legit intel.

Yeah, I’ve found that On3’s data is nonsense. They slap the word proprietary on some random formula and claim that it’s groundbreaking. Their NIL system is a mess and really misleading. I haven’t looked a ton into this new recruit predictor, but it just seems pointless. 

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3 minutes ago, RaceToTheTop said:

I’ll see your Grant Gelon and raise you a Jeremiah April.

Ya that’s going really deep! 
 

you ever get bored you gotta go to https://iuhoosiers.com/sports/mens-basketball/roster and look through all the years and look at the rosters, it’s a trip. Especially the early Crean years. 

 

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16 minutes ago, coonhounds said:

I believe when crean was recruiting him he had 9 threes in a high school game. Possibly only 7. I can't recall either way it was to calm the critics who wound up being 100 percent right that he wasn't good

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Wasn't good... But 1000% guarantee this board and I 1000% know Inside the Hall boards(because I was probably banned shortly after both lol) that Gelon and Even Priller were going to be good and contribute by their Junior and Senior years... That was a legitimate belief.

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Wasn't good... But 1000% guarantee this board and I 1000% know Inside the Hall boards(because I was probably banned shortly after both lol) that Gelon and Even Priller were going to be good and contribute by their Junior and Senior years... That was a legitimate belief.

Lol. You can imagine my reaction and the debates here re:Gelon. Especially as Sasha outplayed him all season long. The other recruitment that blew my mind was Max Hoetzel/Montana. I’m pretty sure Crean never watched him play a live game. It had become so obvious. I do like Crean even through his oddities. Just more examples of coaches making millions missing talent evaluations.
Archie surprisingly was awful at it too. Or at least getting it to work on the court. His early Rhodesia Island struggles kinda mirroring Crean’s career arc.


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12 minutes ago, Loaded Chicken Sandwich said:

Wasn't good... But 1000% guarantee this board and I 1000% know Inside the Hall boards(because I was probably banned shortly after both lol) that Gelon and Even Priller were going to be good and contribute by their Junior and Senior years... That was a legitimate belief.

I can guarantee you not many on this board thought Gelon was going to be good.   Of course there were some that thought he could in time but most knew it was a reach.   I will never forget watching him at the forum tip-off classic and reporting back here that he had a goose egg and they didn’t even run the last play for him in the game they ran it for a junior kid.  That junior turned out to be Sasha from Purdue.  

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Ok but this isn’t Crean.
and if all this assuming is based on Rhabjohn then I think that is short sighted. 
 
BB recruiting is not that different than recruiting in business. People can be a priority until you hear what they want paid, their expectations for 9-5 work etc. Then you go an look for a better option. Doesn’t mean you settle. 
you also don’t put all your eggs in one basket and sometimes someone you would have taken is now off the table because a better option became a reality that you didn’t believe you could get. 


All are certainly options. Its not all Rabjohns but he guides the narrative. Then sometimes Leakers leak info.. examples: Dan Fife’s firing and his “issues”. Caleb Love that he wants 25 shots. DHS that he wasn’t a fit. . Some others. You never really know but the quality of the players that ultimately say yes tell the tale in the end. Excited to see it unfold. I genuinely wonder if the NIL talk happens In stage 1 or stage 5 because knowing the landscape a lot of energy might be saved if it happens at stage 1.


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1 hour ago, WayneFleekHoosier said:

Wow….

I’ve never said we are gonna suck. I believe I AM realistic and I could write an 18 paragraph post about too, but no one wants that. Lol.

My reaction yesterday was primarily based on DeLoach and how I don’t think he is a fit for us to be at the level I want us to be. Coupled with that, was 2023 recruiting efforts/results and the progression of a few of the recruitments we are currently in. (At the time, Timberlake, Shedrick, and to some extent Love (although that one is a blessing, I’m sure)).

I’ve been stating all year how big this off-season was going to be. I’m excited we are portaling. We need mature pieces that are college ready. I do “fear” what comes if we don’t hit it big and have a nice off season thus making the tournament.

I feel like the staff knows what we need to do, but it’s hard out there and it’s bidding wars central and with HOW much we need I’m concerned at the level of player we will get. But that doesn’t at all mean I think we will suck. I know we will get some good pieces. It’s the fan in me to project good fits and what not. To sense struggles if I feel we are having struggles. This is probably the part that angers so many I guess.




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