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[HoosierAloha 30,102]

2 hours ago, Artie86 said:

....Here, Here! Finally....OMG. Yes, X is and elite level PG and if he is granted another year at IU, we will be in decent shape. Another thing, I don't think people are giving Cupp's potential, much attention either. I'm not saying he is going to walk in an start, but he is someone who will definitely surprise many people. I mean,....how many of us thought 1st TEAM ALL BIGTEN freshman, Braeden Smith would have done what he did for Purdue? I know they have different gifts, but man....I'm super excited about incoming freshmen Cupps and Newton.

What is your definition of elite level PG?

[rcbowla 8,278]

What is your definition of elite level PG?

Wondering the same thing. XJ makes next year's team better without question. But to refer to him as 'elite' is a big stretch imo. He's got some elite traits but not enough to consider him as a whole 'elite'.

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[RaceToTheTop 31,212]

6 minutes ago, HoosierAloha said:

What is your definition of elite level PG?

Any player of X's level and above?  :)

Anyway, I wouldn't call him elite but I'll call him a very good one.  I would say that currently he is the most important player to our success next season.

FWIW, rostercast on Torvik has IU's roster current at #64.  Adding X and no one else moves IU to #41.

[HoosierAloha 30,102]

If we don't get certain guys in the portal we'll most likely be facing a difficult season - "freaking out"

This is the perfect opportunity for Woody to bring in "his guys" and make it work. I guess he wasn't allowed to do that the past few off seasons because continuity or something. Get your guys, implement a system that wins, and go win something meaningful.

[Artie86 3,501]

3 minutes ago, Hoosierfan2017 said:

Because I don’t want us to suck next year? We went 23-12, made it to the round of 32, and then lost 4 starters. 1 of those starters was a top 3 player in college basketball, another starter is a projected first round pick, and a third starter was our best shooter. Our bench was very weak last season and we lost 2 of our 3 main bench rotational players. Neither were good, but we still need to replace those minutes. We only have two freshmen coming in and neither projects to be instant impact. 

Getting Xavier back will help, but we still have a ton of holes to fill. That’s why he needs to hit it out of the park. Otherwise you’re looking at a missed tournament which will kill the momentum we have going. Our coach is 65 years old. He doesn’t have ‘rebuilding’ time. 

I respectfully disagree....

I know this is basketball we are talking about. I would love knocking it out of the park! Maybe we do, maybe we don't. In the end, I want to win the game. It's strategy. It's also about what's going to fit and make you and your team better. I'm ok with that double! Lay a sac bunt down, hit the player in or move him in scoring position. Play smart, keep the inning going and make them have to change pitchers over and over. I think Coach Woodson has done a great job for only coaching in his second year in NCAA ever. Yes, he may have just turned 65 last month, but he as done a hell of a lot more that any other recent IU coaches have in their first 2 years, since Mike Davis (inherited Coach Knight's solid roster).

*** I purposely left out Coach Sampson, though successful his first 2 years as well, he put a stain on IU with his recruiting infractions.

[HoosierAloha 30,102]

1 minute ago, rcs29 said:

Wondering the same thing. XJ makes next year's team better without question. But to refer to him as 'elite' is a big stretch imo. He's got some elite traits but not enough to consider him as a whole 'elite'.

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I love me some XJ and think he brings intangibles we haven't had in awhile but it's been almost a 1:1 with great to wtf games. He has the potential to raise the team to another level but hasn't consistently shown that at IU. That's not elite to me.

[RaceToTheTop 31,212]

1 minute ago, HoosierAloha said:

I love me some XJ and think he brings intangibles we haven't had in awhile but it's been almost a 1:1 with great to wtf games. He has the potential to raise the team to another level but hasn't consistently shown that at IU. That's not elite to me.

I think the positive thing about the 1:1 ratio is its frontloaded with wtf and backloaded with good to great.

[HoosierAloha 30,102]

3 minutes ago, RaceToTheTop said:

Any player of X's level and above?  :)

Anyway, I wouldn't call him elite but I'll call him a very good one.  I would say that currently he is the most important player to our success next season.

Would agree with being the most important player going into next season but if he's trying to do it alone we'll be in trouble. Hopefully he's taking a few younger guys under his wing and instilling a little fight in them.

It's odd the ones building up the freaking out are the same as the ones claiming elite level PGs or something like that.

[LamarCheeks 22,161]

I'm seeing intimations here that X will be back. 

Are we just referring to his intentions -- or has he actually been granted the waiver? 

Haven't seen anything yet that the NCAA has issued any ruling. 

[HoosierAloha 30,102]

Just now, RaceToTheTop said:

I think the positive thing about the 1:1 ratio is its frontloaded with wtf and backloaded with good to great.

Ehhh, think it's a bit skewed and we overvalue that short stretch where we still only played ~.500 ball. He had some great games but he had a few games where he shot us out of it or almost shot us out of it.

[IU_FanClub 1,857]

I think X having to sit and watch for basically 2/3 of a season is going to help him see the game at a whole new level. Not to mention he was very locked in and basically an extra coach. I think this year helped him take another step as a leader and that should help.

[HoosierAloha 30,102]

4 minutes ago, IU_FanClub said:

I think X having to sit and watch for basically 2/3 of a season is going to help him see the game at a whole new level. Not to mention he was very locked in and basically an extra coach. I think this year helped him take another step as a leader and that should help.

I hope that is the case. It's possible he tries to do too much (there's a history here) being the best or one of the best players on the team too.

[RaceToTheTop 31,212]

14 minutes ago, HoosierAloha said:

Would agree with being the most important player going into next season but if he's trying to do it alone we'll be in trouble. Hopefully he's taking a few younger guys under his wing and instilling a little fight in them.

It's odd the ones building up the freaking out are the same as the ones claiming elite level PGs or something like that.

Only one person has called X elite.

[RaceToTheTop 31,212]

13 minutes ago, LamarCheeks said:

I'm seeing intimations here that X will be back. 

Are we just referring to his intentions -- or has he actually been granted the waiver? 

Haven't seen anything yet that the NCAA has issued any ruling. 

@Chris007indicated that it will be announced shortly.

[GloryDays 6,224]

2 hours ago, Chris007 said:

I was going to say that roster right now is better than Penn St, Minny, Nebraska, ILL, Michigan, maybe a few others

Yeah,I was thinking the same.

Add a scoring wing and a defensive stopper in the middle and we won't be terrible.

[Chris007 62,548]

6 minutes ago, HoosierAloha said:

I hope that is the case. It's possible he tries to do too much (there's a history here) being the best or one of the best players on the team too.

I 100% think there will still be some growing pains with X. I think that is just who he is. But if we can get him right, for most of the season then that will help a lot. 

[WayneFleekHoosier 51,483]

17 minutes ago, LamarCheeks said:

I'm seeing intimations here that X will be back. 

Are we just referring to his intentions -- or has he actually been granted the waiver? 

Haven't seen anything yet that the NCAA has issued any ruling. 

He’s reported to having announced it to Hoosier Hysterics released sometime today.  

[WayneFleekHoosier 51,483]

Just now, Woodson1980 said:

Yeah,I was thinking the same.

Add a scoring wing and a defensive stopper in the middle and we won't be terrible.

That’s setting the Blueblood bar right there. 

[HoosierAloha 30,102]

12 minutes ago, RaceToTheTop said:

Only one person has called X elite.

Admittedly I didn't read through the rest of the comments around that time. I figured it panned out similarly to what we typically see here of "why are you so negative we have x, y, z" with several posters agreeing then a retort that flows the other way. One side claiming the other is too positive/negative until a poster tells another to get off the board to get fresh air/touch grass/doing something because they're freaking out.

Rinse and repeat

I believe we can all agree we had a superior roster of talent this past season than what is projected for next season that led us to a T2 in the Big 1.o and a first round W. Can the coming season be one where the sum of its parts is better than the individual talent? I don't think we've been there for many years.

[Artie86 3,501]

5 minutes ago, RaceToTheTop said:

Only one person has called X elite.

call me out if you want....I could care less. This exactly what I posted earlier.  

X is and elite level PG and if he is granted another year at IU, we will be in decent shape.

I specifically added "level" behind elite because IMO, he has the ability and has shown flashes to be elite. My intention was to put him in a class close to elite and better that average. I also added elite level because of his defense too.