NCAA MBB Transfer Portal

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1 hour ago, WayneFleekHoosier said:

To an extent.  But can’t totally “overpay”.  Need 2-3 top level players though.  Many schools have that.  All the great ones do.  Some have 5-7 of those guys. We are gonna find the portal expensive again and struggle to build what we want. 

Absolutely.  The suggestion of spending $5 on each of two high portal players and then filling in the rest of minimum players:  if either of the two studs get hurt, you have a bottom of the barrel team.

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[Class of '66 Old Fart]

Virginia Tech guard Izaiah Pasha told @LeagueRDY he plans to enter the transfer portal. The 6-foot-5 guard was the CAA Rookie of the Year as a freshman before spending this past season at Virginia Tech. He averaged 11.9PPG, 4.2RPG and 3.9APG as a freshman.

[ziggyiu]

11 minutes ago, Class of '66 Old Fart said:

Virginia Tech guard Izaiah Pasha told @LeagueRDY he plans to enter the transfer portal. The 6-foot-5 guard was the CAA Rookie of the Year as a freshman before spending this past season at Virginia Tech. He averaged 11.9PPG, 4.2RPG and 3.9APG as a freshman.

Seems, based on stats, things didn't work out for him at VT. Any insight as whether his game isn't a fit for high major ball, or if something else didn't click with the Hokies? 

[AZ Hoosier]

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[Stuhoo]

18 minutes ago, AZ Hoosier said:

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Too expensive for a talented player that doesn’t always play hard.

Budget buster: PASS

 

[AH1971]

2 hours ago, Aaron said:

If Shelstad prefers Florida and has no interest, nothing you can do or get upset about.

I am taking about if there is mutual interest with a true difference maker and then getting outbid as presumably happened with Conwell. For a player like that, you may need to outbid and way overpay what other teams will even if its 7-10 mil.

Better than what happened instead that IU decided he was to expensive and paid less for several mediocre guys.

Paying ‘market value’ for mediocrity is why team struggled so much and cant be repeated

IU doesn’t have $7-10m for a player let alone 2. You still need to build a roster. What if one of them gets hurt?

 

[Demo]

St Mary’s PF Paulius Murauskas entering the portal. Fair to assume he’s following Bennett to ASU but if he’s actually available, man, that dude really knows how to play. 

[Golfman25]

3 hours ago, Aaron said:

If IU identifies Shelstad as a must have, then you pay him whatever it takes to get him to Bloomington even if its 5 mil+ or more.

If they think Shelstad has someone equivalent for less, go there. Bottom line though is I would much rather have an elite PG like Shelstad and an elite big at 5 mil each and round out roster with minimums.

Don’t spend 1-2 mil on mid players as IU seemingly did last yr rather than dumping 5-6 mil on Conwell and Wilkerson and being worse off. An aggregate of mid players like Dorn, Enright, Conerway, Miles etc. makes you far worse off. Four mediocre players does not equal one good one and roster management needs to be handled accordingly.

You win because of 1-2 stars. You may need to way overpay to be competitive or else you will be stuck in loop of mediocrity firing coaches every 2-3 yrs.

If Shelstad or anyone else is uninterested so be it. However, once you identify a prospect with mutual interest and you think they are a difference maker you pay them whatever it takes to come.

Worth a try, but he strikes me as someone who would want to go to a contender for his SR year, not a rebuild.  

[Demo]

Tulane PG Rowan Brumbaugh entering the portal. Don’t know if it’s purely random chance because it’s not like I’ve watched a million Tulane games but I’ve never seen that kid not good. 

[Shooter]

3 hours ago, Unexpectedflash said:

Ya BYU did that this year and all it took was one injury and they looked terrible after. I honestly don’t mind what we did last year in terms of money. We just spent it on terrible players. Get 2 studs and then 6 other people that you can reliably count on 

At some point we have to trust our younger, cheaper guys (like Sisley) to play and develop. Just like in the pros, productive players on cheaper rookie contracts are really valuable because it frees up money to spend elsewhere. And it's almost always cheaper to retain your own good players than to buy new ones. 

Good news is Ryan Carr should be all over this.

[Unexpectedflash]

11 minutes ago, Shooter said:

At some point we have to trust our younger, cheaper guys (like Sisley) to play and develop. Just like in the pros, productive players on cheaper rookie contracts are really valuable because it frees up money to spend elsewhere. And it's almost always cheaper to retain your own good players than to buy new ones. 

Good news is Ryan Carr should be all over this.

I couldn’t agree more! If you look at all of the teams left, other than St. John’s and Texas, they all have freshman playing key roles on their teams. I honestly think freshman have become undervalued with the transfer portal and I have no issue relying on one 

[str8baller]

6 minutes ago, Unexpectedflash said:

I couldn’t agree more! If you look at all of the teams left, other than St. John’s and Texas, they all have freshman playing key roles on their teams. I honestly think freshman have become undervalued with the transfer portal and I have no issue relying on one 

Purdue or Iowa really don’t. MSU has a couple bench guys. If we spend big on just two guys we would need 3 starters to come from the freshman/Sisley group of cheap contracts.  
 

It’s one thing if you have a Boozer, Burries, or Peat coming in. Or get lucky with a Waggler. We don’t have any of the first group so we’d be relying pretty heavily on luck. 

[Unexpectedflash]

11 minutes ago, str8baller said:

Purdue or Iowa really don’t. MSU has a couple bench guys. If we spend big on just two guys we would need 3 starters to come from the freshman/Sisley group of cheap contracts.  
 

It’s one thing if you have a Boozer, Burries, or Peat coming in. Or get lucky with a Waggler. We don’t have any of the first group so we’d be relying pretty heavily on luck. 

Jordan Scott starts for msu and consistently takes the best perimeter player on the other team. Can ward off the bench. Omer Mayer and Jack benter both play for Purdue. They played cj cox last year and this year. Even Iowa played Tate sage over 10 mins a game the last two games. Didn’t realize cooper Koch was a redshirt freshman but he starts for them.I’m not saying they have to be starters but you can rely on them as bench pieces. Obviously it takes the right scouting and player but hopefully that’s where Carr comes in 

[Asha’man]

If a 5 star freshman is cheaper than a portal vet I’d take the 5 star freshmen. Thinking Muurinen would be better money spent than some of the top names we’ve seen enter the portal. 

[str8baller]

2 minutes ago, Unexpectedflash said:

Jordan Scott starts for msu and consistently takes the best perimeter player on the other team. Can ward off the bench. Omer Mayer and Jack benter both play for Purdue. They played cj cox last year and this year. I’m not saying they have to be starters but you can rely on them as bench pieces 

Scott played his way in late in the season. He’s a fifth starter type with not a ton of production. Mayer is barely a rotation piece and him and Ward didn’t contribute a whole lot more statistically than Sisley did this year.  You can’t rely on guys like that to fill key roles. 
 

But let’s say best case scenario and you get one of those guys to pop as a 6th/5th man type à la Jordan Scott, add that to your “two studs” and you still have to find 5-6 more “diamond in the rough” types on cheap deals to fill out your starting lineup and rotation. Unless Carr is some type of wizard who can consistently find $200k guys who play like $2mil guys that is a recipe for having a bunch of Jasai Miles and Ristic types up and down your roster. Seems risky

[Asha’man]

43 minutes ago, str8baller said:

Scott played his way in late in the season. He’s a fifth starter type with not a ton of production. Mayer is barely a rotation piece and him and Ward didn’t contribute a whole lot more statistically than Sisley did this year.  You can’t rely on guys like that to fill key roles. 
 

But let’s say best case scenario and you get one of those guys to pop as a 6th/5th man type à la Jordan Scott, add that to your “two studs” and you still have to find 5-6 more “diamond in the rough” types on cheap deals to fill out your starting lineup and rotation. Unless Carr is some type of wizard who can consistently find $200k guys who play like $2mil guys that is a recipe for having a bunch of Jasai Miles and Ristic types up and down your roster. Seems risky

It’s the NBA roster building method. Get a couple max guys and then fill the roster with JAG’s that fill a role but have flaws in their game. I’m definitely interested in how they build the roster out. I don’t think paying 5 guys 1.5 mil each and then a couple million for the rest to round out the roster will be good enough bc we will miss the top end talent to put us over the top. I’d much rather get 2 guys at $3 mil and then a guy at like 1.5. Then fill in the rest with jags and freshmen. Then keep building through high school recruiting by stacking classes. 

[Henryville Hoosier]

 

[Loaded Chicken Sandwich]

Flory Bidunga will probably be hitting the portal soon. 

[Home Jersey]

1 minute ago, Loaded Chicken Sandwich said:

Flory Bidunga will probably be hitting the portal soon. 

Hopefully Drew Adams has already been on this. Cut him a $2.5-3M check and let's go