IUBB vs Northwestern - 12/23/20 @ 8:30 ET on BTN

[HoosierAloha]

I'm sure we'll see you all back here for the Ill game...

[Brass Cannon]

Just now, HoosierAloha said:

This is just dumb.  We played well against Providence, Stanford, and FSU. 

Did we play well for 40 minutes?  Or was it really well for 20 and just survive the other 20?  And that’s a recipe for disaster against good teams 

[DChoosier]

Just now, cthomas said:

Don't think he is ready yet. He will get there, but throw him in now and things only get worse.

I agree. Not being negative in regards to Lander, and I think he will be a very good player, but he should be a HS senior and is clearly not ready yet.

[LamarCheeks]

Gonna call it a night. 

Merry Christmas, all! 

[HoosierKnight]

I would start TJD, Race, Trey, Franklin and Lander. I would rather go through growing pains of two freshmen then two upperclassmen....- who one doesn’t score and another who spends most of the time on the floor.

Agree! This is 100% the way to go.


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[theriverpilot]

I’ve been in Archie’s corner for a while and truly wanted him to succeed here. Losing to Northwestern at home in year 4 should tell us all we need to know about what he’s capable of.


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I love what he’s done defensively but as someone said here before, he would be well served to hire an offensive minded assistant coach.


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[ElectricBoogaloo]

Upperclassmen guards scored 6 points. “Get old, stay old” not working. 

[Brass Cannon]

Just now, theriverpilot said:

I love what he’s done defensively but as someone said here before, he would be well served to hire an offensive minded assistant coach.


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Too late. Should have been done after year 2 

[Brass Cannon]

Just now, ElectricBoogaloo said:

Upperclassmen guards scored 6 points. “Get old, stay old” not working. 

His first 2 recruiting classes. 6 players are contributing next to nothing right now. 
 

 

[HoosierAloha]

6 minutes ago, Brass Cannon said:

We’ve sucked all season. People just refused to see 

 

2 minutes ago, Brass Cannon said:

Did we play well for 40 minutes?  Or was it really well for 20 and just survive the other 20?  And that’s a recipe for disaster against good teams 

Sucked all season = play well for 40 minutes?  You do this almost every game.  People refusing to trash the coach, trash the players, and trash the program isn't refusing to see it.  Again, this is just dumb.

[Brass Cannon]

1 minute ago, HoosierAloha said:

 

Sucked all season = play well for 40 minutes?  You do this almost every game.  People refusing to trash the coach, trash the players, and trash the program isn't refusing to see it.  Again, this is just dumb.

Failing to show up for 20 minutes for a game is a trait of a sucky team.  Effort is the easiest thing to get consistently.  

[theriverpilot]

TJD and Galloway have been the most consistent players this year. Armaan a close 2nd.


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[HoosierTrav]

I will probably get killed for this but here goes.... Al Durham has no business getting the amount of minutes he does. He’s a great kid but simply not good enough to help us compete at a top level in the B1G. Every year he plays well against the mid/low majors, then looks outclassed once B1G starts. He has his occasional solid game but it’s glaringly obvious that he shouldn’t be getting the minutes he does. Same with Phinisee, as well. He’s regressed every season. Lander is young and has a lot to learn but when I see him on the floor I see a very high ceiling. The fact Archie is letting him wither away on the bench infuriates me. I’m willing to live with his mistakes much more than the constant boneheaded  mistakes from upper classmen. At least he will be brought up to speed much quicker. Al and Rob just barely keep us treading water and prolong us from getting to where we need to be. 
 

Archie is getting his @$$ handed to him in Bloomington. It’s hard to watch. Nearly everyone pegged this guy as one of the next big time head coaches. He’s not awful, he’s certainly not great. He’s just meh. 

[HoosierAloha]

1 minute ago, Brass Cannon said:

Failing to show up for 20 minutes for a game is a trait of a sucky team.  Effort is the easiest thing to get consistently.  

We've been crazy inconsistent and aloof for long stretches of games.  However, saying we've sucked all season is just lazy and attempting to drive a narrative.  When we've been bad we've been really bad.  We haven't played a complete game and have just gone through the motions for games we could have won.  

[Brass Cannon]

1 minute ago, HoosierTrav said:

I will probably get killed for this but here goes.... Al Durham has no business getting the amount of minutes he does. He’s a great kid but simply not good enough to help us compete at a top level in the B1G. Every year he plays well against the mid/low majors, then looks outclassed once B1G starts. He has his occasional solid game but it’s glaringly obvious that he shouldn’t be getting the minutes he does. Same with Phinisee, as well. He’s regressed every season. Lander is young and has a lot to learn but when I see him on the floor I see a very high ceiling. The fact Archie is letting him wither away on the bench infuriates me. I’m willing to live with his mistakes much more than the constant boneheaded  mistakes from upper classmen. At least he will be brought up to speed much quicker. Al and Rob just barely keep us treading water and prolong us from getting to where we need to be. 
 

Archie is getting his @$$ handed to him in Bloomington. It’s hard to watch. Nearly everyone pegged this guy as one of the next big time head coaches. He’s not awful, he’s certainly not great. He’s just meh. 

Al should not be playing as much you are right. With this roster he deserves it. 
 

WHY WASNT HE RECRUITED OVER THOUGH 

[theriverpilot]

I will probably get killed for this but here goes.... Al Durham has no business getting the amount of minutes he does. He’s a great kid but simply not good enough to help us compete at a top level in the B1G. Every year he plays well against the mid/low majors, then looks outclassed once B1G starts. He has his occasional solid game but it’s glaringly obvious that he shouldn’t be getting the minutes he does. Same with Phinisee, as well. He’s regressed every season. Lander is young and has a lot to learn but when I see him on the floor I see a very high ceiling. The fact Archie is letting him wither away on the bench infuriates me. I’m willing to live with his mistakes much more than the constant boneheaded  mistakes from upper classmen. At least he will be brought up to speed much quicker. Al and Rob just barely keep us treading water and prolong us from getting to where we need to be. 

 

Archie is getting his @$$ handed to him in Bloomington. It’s hard to watch. Nearly everyone pegged this guy as one of the next big time head coaches. He’s not awful, he’s certainly not great. He’s just meh. 

Have to say I agree at this point. Concerning Archie, I’d love to see him succeed at IU but so far...meh. The defensive improvements have been great but the offense has been in a rut for 4 years

 

 

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[Brass Cannon]

Just now, HoosierAloha said:

We've been crazy inconsistent and aloof for long stretches of games.  However, saying we've sucked all season is just lazy and attempting to drive a narrative.  When we've been bad we've been really bad.  We haven't played a complete game and have just gone through the motions for games we could have won.  

Which is a trait of a sucky team.  If my team at work was like that I would call myself a sucky leader.   

[Hoosier Guy]

When Galloway is IU’s second best player, it says a lot about the team right now

[Golfman25]

21 minutes ago, LamarCheeks said:

Does Geronimo show nothing in practice? 

Not sure why he's not getting any minutes. 

I think he's looked lost the last few time I saw him out there.  

[HoosierAloha]

3 minutes ago, HoosierTrav said:

I will probably get killed for this but here goes.... Al Durham has no business getting the amount of minutes he does. He’s a great kid but simply not good enough to help us compete at a top level in the B1G. Every year he plays well against the mid/low majors, then looks outclassed once B1G starts. He has his occasional solid game but it’s glaringly obvious that he shouldn’t be getting the minutes he does. Same with Phinisee, as well. He’s regressed every season. Lander is young and has a lot to learn but when I see him on the floor I see a very high ceiling. The fact Archie is letting him wither away on the bench infuriates me. I’m willing to live with his mistakes much more than the constant boneheaded  mistakes from upper classmen. At least he will be brought up to speed much quicker. Al and Rob just barely keep us treading water and prolong us from getting to where we need to be. 
 

Archie is getting his @$$ handed to him in Bloomington. It’s hard to watch. Nearly everyone pegged this guy as one of the next big time head coaches. He’s not awful, he’s certainly not great. He’s just meh. 

Phin usually brings top notch defense.  He needs to get his offense going.  When he attacks and is aggressive he's a much different player.  He needs to get that going.  Al needs to come off the bench and be a shooter (?).  I wouldn't mind seeing Galloway get the start for Durham and have Lander come off the bench.  Lander isn't there yet on defense but if we can get our guards to be aggressive we're a different team.  It's frustrating to watch our guards not do **** and just pass it around the perimeter.