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I’m guessing these are the somewhat potential bid stealers for IU:

ACC Virginia and Virginia Tech

B12 Oklahoma

American: SMU

Atlantic 10 VCU and Dayton

Pac 12: Colorado could get by an injured Arizona and get lucky in title game

BIG: None imo

bIg east: none

maybe a non north Texas winner in cusa

 

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10 minutes ago, vemmeistars said:

I’m guessing these are the somewhat potential bid stealers for IU:

ACC Virginia and Virginia Tech

B12 Oklahoma

American: SMU

Atlantic 10 VCU and Dayton

Pac 12: Colorado could get by an injured Arizona and get lucky in title game

BIG: None imo

bIg east: none

maybe a non north Texas winner in cusa

 

a couple more 

MWC- Utah St, Fresno St

A-10- any team not named Davidson 

Pac 12- Washington st 

 

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So best outcomes to these are:

acc: unc winning 2 in a row

b12: Texas tech winning vs ou

american: smu losing before conference final

atlantic 10: luck probably 2 bid league

pac 12: usc or UCLA win out

mwc: chalk (think one of they’re 4 bids will win it

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11 hours ago, Uspshoosier said:

Definitely.  I said it many times people probably get sick of hearing it but that year set the program back because a program that has struggled finally had a position to change that perception and it gets taking away.    That was a big blow for fans as well. 

That's the thing, everyone wants to call it a missed (failed) tournament year for IU, but it never seems to get counted as a missed year for other teams. 

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8 hours ago, HoosierHoopster said:

^^ I think this W is enough to get us in -- and I do think it should -- but a W tomorrow would seal the deal -- let's go!

A W tomorrow would likely take us out of the play in games.

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8 minutes ago, HoosierHoops1 said:

That's the thing, everyone wants to call it a missed (failed) tournament year for IU, but it never seems to get counted as a missed year for other teams. 

Dayton had a once in a lifetime team that was going to be a 2 seed at worst.  Penn st was going to break a huge drought and Stevens was going to break the all time scoring record until everything shut down. Just brutal all around.  I felt so bad for everyone involved.  

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2 hours ago, vemmeistars said:

I’m guessing these are the somewhat potential bid stealers for IU:

ACC Virginia and Virginia Tech

B12 Oklahoma

American: SMU

Atlantic 10 VCU and Dayton

Pac 12: Colorado could get by an injured Arizona and get lucky in title game

BIG: None imo

bIg east: none

maybe a non north Texas winner in cusa

 

At this point North Texas getting an at large IMO would be far fetched.  They've only played 2 quad 1 games all year and won one.  They've got more quad three losses than quad one wins.  Any loss they have from here out in their conference tournament would be quad 2 or quad 3 -- unless UAB moved up from 53 to top 50.  That one quad one win sticks out like a sore thumb, though....and it was UAB on the road (who they lost to at home).

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They have a strong net/ken Pom (low 40s), 6 q1/q2 wins,  only 2 q3 losses, and top 100 schedule/decent non conference schedule. I would hope iu get judged ahead of them but they are a risk of being a surprise at large. Would rather they just win cusa tournament, so it’s a moot point.

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So basically the Michigan win only nets us a quad 2 win, right?  Notre Dame should drop below 50 after their VaTech loss, so that's a quad 1 moving to quad 2.  The quad 1 gets replaced by today's win over Michigan.

Will be interesting to see where we end up on NET tomorrow  I think we may move ahead of:

-- Marquette;  they were at 37 but lost by 11 to Creighton

-- long shot at passing Michigan State....they were at 38 but we likely put up better efficiency numbers today

-- Iowa State who will take a big efficiency hit (they were at 39)

-- Xavier (idol, were at 40)

Won't move past North Texas or Oklahoma;  Oklahoma with a quad 1 and North Texas with good efficiency

Possible we get passed by TCU, who was at 46 and beat Texas by 12.

My prediction:  we are at 40.

 

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6 minutes ago, vemmeistars said:

They have a strong net/ken Pom (low 40s), 6 q1/q2 wins,  only 2 q3 losses, and top 100 schedule/decent non conference schedule. I would hope iu get judged ahead of them but they are a risk of being a surprise at large. Would rather they just win cusa tournament, so it’s a moot point.

It is worth noting that their non-conference schedule only consisted of 8 games since the NCAA won't really 'count' their two wins against division 2 teams.  Ultimately, I think a team with their type of schedule has to have a Murray State like record to make it.  If they were to lose in their conference title, I don't see them getting in with 6 losses.

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8 minutes ago, brumdog45 said:

So basically the Michigan win only nets us a quad 2 win, right?  Notre Dame should drop below 50 after their VaTech loss, so that's a quad 1 moving to quad 2.  The quad 1 gets replaced by today's win over Michigan.

Will be interesting to see where we end up on NET tomorrow  I think we may move ahead of:

-- Marquette;  they were at 37 but lost by 11 to Creighton

-- long shot at passing Michigan State....they were at 38 but we likely put up better efficiency numbers today

-- Iowa State who will take a big efficiency hit (they were at 39)

-- Xavier (idol, were at 40)

Won't move past North Texas or Oklahoma;  Oklahoma with a quad 1 and North Texas with good efficiency

Possible we get passed by TCU, who was at 46 and beat Texas by 12.

My prediction:  we are at 40.

 

Michigan would have to drop 20ish spots. Not sure they drop that much.

ND definitely drops out of the top 50

I agree, 40ish is a good guess. 

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5 minutes ago, Southside said:

Michigan would have to drop 20ish spots. Not sure they drop that much.

ND definitely drops out of the top 50

I agree, 40ish is a good guess. 

I wasn't saying that Michigan was going to drop 20 spots -- what I was saying was that we added a quad 2 win to the resume today because the Notre Dame one will move to quad 2.

Prior to today:  We had a quad 1 win against Notre Dame.

After today:  we have a quad 1 win against Michigan and a quad 2 win against  Notre Dame.

So since the Notre Dame one dropped, it was basically adding on a quad 2 win.

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