ray Posted May 4, 2018 Posted May 4, 2018 1 minute ago, Brass Cannon said: About as crazy as a walk on from Vermont who only scored 4 points a games at vermont starting and being productive in the big 10. Jeez how longs in been since we saw that? You are right...effort means a lot. If he brings effort like a certain kid from Indiana who started at Vermont, then I'll be pleased. I still don't think he's the magical piece to the puzzle so many others seem to be suggesting, but I'm sure he'll contribute in some fashion...if not, then Archie wouldn't have offered him. Quote
CSP Posted May 4, 2018 Posted May 4, 2018 22 minutes ago, lillurk said: Y’all, I like this pickup, but he’s listed at like 215 pounds, or five pounds less than Moore was last year at the same height. Additionally, he has no history of rim protection. He’s not functionally a 5. Could he play alongside Juwan and Smith? Sure, but I doubt he’ll be the one asked to guard Ward or Wesson et al. in such a lineup. The guys asked to guard those bruisers before Fitzner will be, in some order dependent on health, availability, etc., Davis, Morgan, Thompson, Forrester, Moore, even Smith. Shows 230 on ESPN Quote
CSP Posted May 4, 2018 Posted May 4, 2018 You don't find more "inside bigs" to play with Romeo and Morgan.. you find shooters, and this one is a shooter with size. lillurk and BGleas 2 Quote
Bailey7878 Posted May 4, 2018 Posted May 4, 2018 4 minutes ago, lillurk said: Sam Vecine made the point on Twitter that he (Sam) believed Fitzner was a nice addition for IU but also that ideally Fitzner was an insurance policy for IU’s younger players (Moore, Thompson, Forrester, etc.). Sounds about right to me as his stats pretty much show he is not an instant impact guy. We have not seen Thompson play but he may be far better than Evan as we really do not know yet. ray 1 Quote
Bailey7878 Posted May 4, 2018 Posted May 4, 2018 5 minutes ago, lillurk said: Sam Vecine made the point on Twitter that he (Sam) believed Fitzner was a nice addition for IU but also that ideally Fitzner was an insurance policy for IU’s younger players (Moore, Thompson, Forrester, etc.). 13 minutes ago, AZ Hoosier said: Not saying that he absolutely will, but let's see what Archie and the staff can do with him. Even if he never gets to 16/10, he's gonna help a lot, especially with Davis' injury and all the questions about his recovery or redshirting... and he can shoot the 3 at 40%. My point is people tend to hype up guys that come in big time with unreal expectations and it happens every year. Heck I used to be guilty of it as well with guys like Hanner and Jeremy H. I mean heck I remember some people even hyping up Jurkin and Priller if you can believe that one. I have learned to not expect big things from new players unless they are of a Romeo caliber. Given this guy’s stats I expect him to play about 15 minutes a game. He seems to be a role player and not instant impact guy imo and that is what I will expect. rcbowla 1 Quote
CSP Posted May 4, 2018 Posted May 4, 2018 1 minute ago, Bailey7878 said: My point is people tend to hype up guys that come in big time with unreal expectations and it happens every year. Heck I used to be guilty of it as well with guys like Hanner and Jeremy H. I mean heck I remember some people even hyping up Jurkin and Priller if you can believe that one. I have learned to not expect big things from new players unless they are of a Romeo caliber. Given this guy’s stats I expect him to play about 15 minutes a game. He seems to be a role player and not instant impact guy imo and that is what I will expect. Who is hyping him up?.. I've only seen him mentioned as a role player. Quote
Walking Boot of Doom Posted May 4, 2018 Posted May 4, 2018 Why are you all so angry? Can't wait for November. mamasa, thebigweave, Stuhoo and 3 others 6 Quote
mjtavier Posted May 4, 2018 Posted May 4, 2018 (edited) 43 minutes ago, Bailey7878 said: My point is people tend to hype up guys that come in big time with unreal expectations and it happens every year. Heck I used to be guilty of it as well with guys like Hanner and Jeremy H. I mean heck I remember some people even hyping up Jurkin and Priller if you can believe that one. I have learned to not expect big things from new players unless they are of a Romeo caliber. Given this guy’s stats I expect him to play about 15 minutes a game. He seems to be a role player and not instant impact guy imo and that is what I will expect. The point is he isn’t a freshman. If he was a freshman this is a different story. But he played at a St Mary’s program who was successful the last few years. He will contribute to the 2018-2019 IU basketball team. Edited May 4, 2018 by mjtavier MoyeNeeded and MIUGA 2 Quote
ebridges24 Posted May 4, 2018 Posted May 4, 2018 2 hours ago, ray said: He was a high 4-star...11th best center in his class...and had offers from Arizona, UCLA, Oregon, Connecticut, Indiana, and others. Mississippi State ended up being our competition at the end HooHooHoo22 1 Quote
Brass Cannon Posted May 4, 2018 Posted May 4, 2018 17 minutes ago, ebridges24 said: Mississippi State ended up being our competition at the end So Vanderbilt was our competition for Romeo thebigweave and SlamaJamaSisley 2 Quote
cthomas Posted May 4, 2018 Posted May 4, 2018 Obviously CAM saw some value in EF or he wouldn't be here. I am willing to wait and see what role coach Miller utilizes him for before judging his worth. thebigweave and MIUGA 2 Quote
Bailey7878 Posted May 4, 2018 Posted May 4, 2018 Some Who is hyping him up?.. I've only seen him mentioned as a role player. Somebody was saying he was going to be a starter. I think several people actually.Sent from my SM-J700T using Tapatalk Quote
CSP Posted May 4, 2018 Posted May 4, 2018 1 minute ago, Bailey7878 said: Some Somebody was saying he was going to be a starter. I think several people actually. Sent from my SM-J700T using Tapatalk Oh well.. just because you start doesn't mean you aren't a role player. But I am about positive it'll be Smith and Morgan at the 4 and 5 Quote
Brass Cannon Posted May 4, 2018 Posted May 4, 2018 12 minutes ago, Bailey7878 said: Some Somebody was saying he was going to be a starter. I think several people actually. Sent from my SM-J700T using Tapatalk People are discussing the possibility. Because once again its less crazy than Mcroberts starting. Quote
CSP Posted May 4, 2018 Posted May 4, 2018 5 minutes ago, Brass Cannon said: People are discussing the possibility. Because once again its less crazy than Mcroberts starting. Why is that less crazy? Quote
Brass Cannon Posted May 4, 2018 Posted May 4, 2018 35 minutes ago, btownqb said: Why is that less crazy? Hes been a starter on an NCAA tourney team for one. MoyeNeeded and thebigweave 2 Quote
ap2345 Posted May 4, 2018 Posted May 4, 2018 3 hours ago, ray said: Way more skilled than Davis? Wow! If that is indeed true, then count me intrigued as well. People forget that Davis has not had a full, healthy, well-conditioned season in an IU uniform yet. He was at one time the nation's #1 recruit in his class. He made Duke's defensive post presence look ridiculous. Yeah, he has foul troubles and he's easily winded from lack of conditioning and injuries, but Davis is a very skilled post player. If this guy is "way more skilled than Davis", then look out Big Ten Conference! I doubt he is, but he might have more of an impact next year than Davis will. So, I'm all for this addition. I'm just not going to believe he's way more skilled than Davis until I see more. Okay let me rephrase. Fitzner is from a basketball skill stand point from passing, shooting 3's and 15 footers, handling the ball and scoring at the rim much better because he can do more things and score in a variety of different ways. That to me means more skilled. Davis has more post moves but can't do anything else and is an awful FT shooter so yes he is way more skilled imo. I hadn't forgotten that Davis was ranked #1 as a freshman but that was because he was big. Now he is an old school throwback post player that is limited. I like him but he isn't that great especially for the BIG 10 because his struggles on defense hurt us and he's not a shot blocker. Quote
ap2345 Posted May 4, 2018 Posted May 4, 2018 55 minutes ago, Brass Cannon said: People are discussing the possibility. Because once again its less crazy than Mcroberts starting. McRoberts could easily start. Different roles and positions. Quote
Brass Cannon Posted May 5, 2018 Posted May 5, 2018 5 minutes ago, ap2345 said: McRoberts could easily start. Different roles and positions. I know.... that wasnt the point Quote
MoyeNeeded Posted May 5, 2018 Posted May 5, 2018 The point is he isn’t a freshman. If he was a freshman this is a different story. But he played at a St Mary’s program who was successful the last few years. He will contribute to the 2018-2019 IU basketball team. If he gives us a comparable year as Max, would be a good get for us!Sent from my SM-G930P using BtownBanners mobile app theriverpilot and ellen.walden 2 Quote
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