MSU....Heat on Izzo?

[Hoosierfan2017]

44 minutes ago, Brass Cannon said:

Yep. Glad IU helped do their part in the brushing it under the rug 

How did they do that?

[mdn82]

How did they do that?

Because they handed out cards before a nationally televised game requesting the crowd not verbally abuse Izzo or they could be tossed. So basically we couldn’t cuss at him or things like that. According to what the usher told us. Apparently that bothers some?


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[WayneFleekHoosier]

Equally frustrated here. Again MSU and IZZO are March Madness darlings.

Cheating, scumbag, winning coaches are adored by the media that ACT appalled by the cheating in the industry.




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[Hovadipo]

39 minutes ago, WayneFleekHoosier said:

Equally frustrated here. Again MSU and IZZO are March Madness darlings.

Cheating, scumbag, winning coaches are adored by the media that ACT appalled by the cheating in the industry.




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It’s a little more serious than cheating. 

[WayneFleekHoosier]

It’s a little more serious than cheating. 

Thus the scumbag remark. And why it's even more egregious. Re:Pitino, maybe worse.


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[mdn82]

Thus the scumbag remark. And why it's even more egregious. Re:Pitino, maybe worse.


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They are all scumbags but rape to me is more serious than what Pitino did that is publicly known. It’s hard to quantify though since we don’t know the half of it. What I do know is the decisions Izzo was allowed to make he shouldn’t have been able to. The school put pressure on people/areas they shouldn’t have all been able to. I hope they all rot in hell.


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[WayneFleekHoosier]

They are all scumbags but rape to me is more serious than what Pitino did that is publicly known. It’s hard to quantify though since we don’t know the half of it. What I do know is the decisions Izzo was allowed to make he shouldn’t have been able to. The school put pressure on people/areas they shouldn’t have all been able to. I hope they all rot in hell.


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Agree.


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[HoosierAloha]

Yet another place where politics play. The media likes Izzo and LOVE the amazing stories out of East Lansing that showcase his players giving their time. They quickly glance over the fact of a lot of questionable characters up there.


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[WayneFleekHoosier]

They are all scumbags but rape to me is more serious than what Pitino did that is publicly known. It’s hard to quantify though since we don’t know the half of it. What I do know is the decisions Izzo was allowed to make he shouldn’t have been able to. The school put pressure on people/areas they shouldn’t have all been able to. I hope they all rot in hell.

 

 

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Pitino lacked any and all morals professionally and personally. Izzo appears to be from the same cloth if what we know is factual as it seems that it is.

 

Literally win above ALL else.

 

Even looking at the quality of kids MSU and Louisville have recruited speaks volumes.

 

 

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[8bucks]

It is possible more info gets released over the next few days. NCAA is not in control of that info.


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[Bailey7878]

Pitino lacked any and all morals professionally and personally. Izzo appears to be from the same cloth if what we know is factual as it seems that it is.
 
Literally win above ALL else.
 
Even looking at the quality of kids MSU and Louisville have recruited speaks volumes.
 
 
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As I've said winning trumps all. Why to do think pitino lasted so long. It's win at all costs

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[HinnyHoosier]

Yep. Glad IU helped do their part in the brushing it under the rug 

How did they do that?

Because they handed out cards before a nationally televised game requesting the crowd not verbally abuse Izzo or they could be tossed. So basically we couldn’t cuss at him or things like that. According to what the usher told us. Apparently that bothers some?

 

 

 

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We don't have to stoop to that level.

 

Classless behavior from thousands of people won't change the punishment.

 

If we're so worried about the status of and respect for Indiana basketball, allowing people to behave like heathens should also be avoided. A program is often judged by its fanbase right alongside the team and relative level of success.

 

[323SGrant]

 
 
 
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We don't have to stoop to that level.
 
Classless behavior from thousands of people won't change the punishment.
 
If we're so worried about the status of and respect for Indiana basketball, allowing people to behave like heathens should also be avoided. A program is often judged by its fanbase right alongside the team and relative level of success.

I didn’t think they would do anything to Izzo. He “swept those issues under the rug” as I knew he would, until they went away.


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[Brass Cannon]

Never said the chants had to be classless. See nothing wrong with a "Time to Retire" chant. 

Instead we protected his feelings. 

Shame the scum never protected the women of his community with the same effort. 

[Bailey7878]

I didn’t think they would do anything to Izzo. He “swept those issues under the rug” as I knew he would, until they went away.


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Guys like vitale think izzo is a god. It's sad.

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[chicagoHOOSIER]

13 hours ago, IU-DL said:

Was speaking with some friends recently, and isn't it ironic that this just "went away" for Izzo & Company, yet again?  Believably unbelievable. Key staff surrounding the golden boy all fired, yet Izzo remains standing. Lord help the ladies involved (and their fathers) who now know sports trumps all. If this were 99% of other schools, a full house cleaning would have been done.  Makes my blood boil to know they get away with this ****.

I think this is far from over.  More the beginning.  And I think some refs are going to make sure State does not get close to the title game with covert gnudges from the top.

I dont think the NCAA can vacate so many titles year upon year sport upon sport. Would kinda be surprised if a squeaky clean cinderella does not win it all this year.  That's a much better story than the story the NCAA would have to tell a few years from now when they would presumably have to vacate another major title, right after they finally inevitably lose big bright spotlighted cases to Aly Raisman, McKayla Maroney, and friends, FBI cases involving bribes, burying of rape cases against athletes, and allowing so many athletes and coaches to commit so much wrong under billowing clouds of suspicion while continuing to be allowed to represent the school and national college athletics as role models and heroes.

Very far from over IMO.

Aly Raisman just got involved less than two weeks ago.  I would expect a lot of money and power to fall in line behind that.  And State seems to want to try to fight, when they already should have surrendered a long time ago. Those fights are most likely going to be spectacular bloody charges into a heavily fortified no man's land. Every week a new big bombshell seems to drop.

A few good side pluses could even come from all of this. ESPN and old school yes boy blowhards like Dick Vitale might each become collateral damage statistics for different reasons in the end lol.

[coonhounds]

I think this is far from over.  More the beginning.  And I think some refs are going to make sure State does not get close to the title game with covert gnudges from the top.

I dont think the NCAA can vacate so many titles year upon year sport upon sport. Would kinda be surprised if a squeaky clean cinderella does not win it all this year.  That's a much better story than the story the NCAA would have to tell a few years from now when they would presumably have to vacate another major title, right after they finally inevitably lose big bright spotlighted cases to Aly Raisman, McKayla Maroney, and friends, FBI cases involving bribes, burying of rape cases against athletes, and allowing so many athletes and coaches to commit so much wrong under billowing clouds of suspicion while continuing to be allowed to represent the school and national college athletics as role models and heroes.

Very far from over IMO.

Aly Raisman just got involved less than two weeks ago.  I would expect a lot of money and power to fall in line behind that.  And State seems to want to try to fight, when they already should have surrendered a long time ago. Those fights are most likely going to be spectacular bloody charges into a heavily fortified no man's land. Every week a new big bombshell seems to drop.

A few good side pluses could even come from all of this. ESPN and old school yes boy blowhards like Dick Vitale might each become collateral damage statistics for different reasons in the end lol.

This seems a bit to optimistic. I dont think they will rig the tournament and i think they would be happy with a duke kentucky type winner. If your theory is true i could see them rigging it for a purdue type to win which is scary as hell imo

 

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[HinnyHoosier]

Never said the chants had to be classless. See nothing wrong with a "Time to Retire" chant. 
Instead we protected his feelings. 
Shame the scum never protected the women of his community with the same effort. 

I think he knows how people feel, even if the masses haven't stormed the castle in East Lansing.

And I don't think the public will hurt his feelings. We weren't protecting him. We were protecting our image.


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[woodenshoemanHoosierfan]

Never said the chants had to be classless. See nothing wrong with a "Time to Retire" chant. 
Instead we protected his feelings. 
Shame the scum never protected the women of his community with the same effort. 

Do you really think that's all they would chant?

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[Brass Cannon]

2 minutes ago, iufaninillinois said:

Do you really think that's all they would chant?

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There's a middle ground between completely silencing a group and requiring it to be respectful. 

Instead IU helped stop the discussion. Once it stopped getting talked about it can be swept under the rug. IU helped do that. 

My 10 years in Bloomington never gave me the impression the administration really cared about sexual assault prevention. So not really surprised