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On 1/5/2019 at 6:31 AM, Bigred3588 said:

Seeing as how Hurt is most likely going to end up with more career points than Bailey, I got to thinking about scoring records by state and was surprised to find that 16 states have had players with more than 3,134 points. Some of those states have had multiple players surpass that mark. That being said, Jon Diebler and Robert Parish are the only two on that list that I've heard of so it's not exactly an indicator of long-term success. Even so, I thought it would be interesting to discuss Hurt's career scoring in relation to Bailey's. 

Obviously they are completely different players, so I'm not talking about comparing them as such. I'm just curious to see what people have to say about their accomplishments. Which do you find more impressive? Generally I'd be inclined to say Bailey based on the fact that he did it in a state known for basketball (talent and coaching), and the fact that he was only 6'3" (I would assume Hurt has a pretty decent height advantage in every game he plays).

On the other hand, I was an infant when Bailey was playing and am not familiar with the level of competition BNL went up against. I would assume there were a lot of cupcakes. Could be the same for Hurt, but I believe he faces larger schools which generally equates to better opponents. He also appears to be a very versatile scorer and may not rely on his height advantage much. If that is the case and a lot of his offense comes from outside the paint, I'm inclined to give him more credit as his height makes his skill set more impressive. 

So, what do you guys think? Whose scoring record is more impressive and why?

For those interested, here is the link to HS scoring leaders: https://www.nfhs.org/RecordBook/Record-book-result.aspx?CategoryId=1133

Bailey's. Better overall players in our state by numbers than other states. Better players means that scoring can be spread among team member more evenly. Plus better defenses night in night out.

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On 1/5/2019 at 6:31 AM, Bigred3588 said:
On 1/5/2019 at 6:31 AM, Bigred3588 said:

Seeing as how Hurt is most likely going to end up with more career points than Bailey, I got to thinking about scoring records by state and was surprised to find that 16 states have had players with more than 3,134 points. Some of those states have had multiple players surpass that mark. That being said, Jon Diebler and Robert Parish are the only two on that list that I've heard of so it's not exactly an indicator of long-term success. Even so, I thought it would be interesting to discuss Hurt's career scoring in relation to Bailey's. 

Obviously they are completely different players, so I'm not talking about comparing them as such. I'm just curious to see what people have to say about their accomplishments. Which do you find more impressive? 

Bailey's. Hurt has already played 3 more career games and is still 250 points behind DB.

Plus, 29 of Damon's games were played in the "playoffs" when you will yourself to win or you go home.

Bailey led BNL to 3 real, non-class, final fours and a title, and his worst season ended with a regional loss to a final 4 team and a Mr Basketball.

 

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John Marshall  defeated Albert Lea 70 - 58.  Hurt 42 points & 15 rebounds.

 

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John Marshall won its sixth straight game and collected a victory for the second straight night with a 70-58 victory over Albert Lea in Big Nine Conference boys basketball on Friday night.

Matthew Hurt had a stellar all-around game for the Rockets with 42 points, 15 rebounds, four assists and four steals.  Hurt had 29 points and 15 rebounds in Thursday's 59-43 win over Northfield with Duke coach Mike Krzyzewski looking on.

JM led 37-24 at the half, but Albert Lea (2-16, 1-14 Big Nine) held its own over the final 18 minutes.

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On 2/9/2019 at 8:38 AM, Class of '66 Old Fart said:

Matthew Hurt poured in 46 points on Friday as the John Marshall boys basketball team cruised to a 79-59 win over visiting Red Wing. Hurt also had a dominant night on the glass, grabbing 13 rebounds and added 5 assists.

 

On 2/9/2019 at 8:08 PM, Class of '66 Old Fart said:

In OT, John Marshall defeated Mayo 63-58.  Preliminary reports are Hurt had 48 of JM's 63 points.

CORRECTION:  Per John Marshall Basketball, Hurt with 46 points and 16 rebounds.

 

On 2/14/2019 at 8:53 PM, Class of '66 Old Fart said:

John Marshall defeated Northfield 59 - 43.  Hurt 29 pts. and 12 reb.  Also had 6 assists.

 

On 2/15/2019 at 9:16 PM, Class of '66 Old Fart said:

John Marshall  defeated Albert Lea 70 - 58.  Hurt 42 points & 15 rebounds.

 

 

On 2/19/2019 at 4:54 AM, Class of '66 Old Fart said:

John Marshall overwhelmed Faribault 64 - 33.  Hurt with 26 pts. and 10 reb; 7 assts; 5 blks.

 

8 hours ago, Class of '66 Old Fart said:

John Marshall over Century 72 - 52.  Hurt with 41 pts., 19 reb., 8 assists.  

If Hurt wants to score 50-75% of his team's points, I have good news for him. Indiana basketball is looking for someone just like that next year!

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Don't think very many are still holding out expectations for Hurt but here's the latest from Brian Snow at 247Sports.

247Sports Composite Ranking: No. 8

Even after taking multiple official visits, it seems as though Hurt is in no real hurry to make his decision. The 6-foot-9 versatile forward from Minnesota is one of the most skilled players in the class, and also has a good dose of athleticism and competitiveness. To this point Hurt has stayed mostly quiet in regard to his visits, and seems to be focusing on his senior year, with one eye also looking at his recruitment. Official visits have been taken to Duke, Kansas, Kentucky, and North Carolina. He has one official visit let that he could take, but at this point there is no indication that he has a desire to do that.

It still seems like we are weeks, if not months away from a decision from Hurt. While this recruitment has proven to be tough to handicap, Duke and Kansas seem to be the schools with the must behind the scenes buzz, though at the end of the day, none of the four that he has visited would come as a surprise if they are the ultimate choice.

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