Player and Recruit Retention News/Discussion & Potential Transfers

[Uspshoosier]

Seems like a bit of a gray area.  If he's formally asked for his release that to me says he wants to explore other options so we simply thank him and honor his request.  Seems to me that with  the recruit initiating a request for a release, the recruit is no longer in control of the situation and IU holds all the aces.

He dad said in an interview IU wanting him to meet face to face with CAM first. His dad also said he knew it wouldn't be a problem getting his release after that if AL chose to still want to leave


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[Stromboli]

Yeah I think Justin Smith will be the best college player of the three. He plays angry and physical. Has a propensity for plays that demoralize the other team. Seems to understand floor spacing and timing to be a great wing. We need physical guys like him to compete against MSU and other tough teams.

[WayneFleekHoosier]

I don't see OG coming back but I would LOVE that. He is so special. I'd hate for his final season to end the way it did. (For us fans)


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[Trish]

Ideally..

 

Josh / Green

Rojo / Jones

James / Smith 

Collin / Morgan / Freddie

Bryant / Davis 

 

10-11 man rotation.

[WayneFleekHoosier]

Ideally..
 
Josh / Green
Rojo / Jones
James / Smith 
Collin / Morgan / Freddie
Bryant / Davis 
 
10-11 man rotation.

Looking at this proposed lineup we are going to lose some guys IMO. We look deep (on paper).

I think OG and Blackmon still make the most sense. Mum is the word with Bryant as well. I think he knows well enough to not even try.


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[HoosierAloha]

Ideally..
 
Josh / Green
Rojo / Jones
James / Smith 
Collin / Morgan / Freddie
Bryant / Davis 
 
10-11 man rotation.

Green / Newkirk
Blackmon Jr. / Johnson
Morgan / Smith
Hartman / McSwain
Bryant / Davis

This would never happen but I would like to see it.

Green has a higher ceiling than Newkirk. He needs run with the starters in the noncon to get a better feel. Newkirk could be really solid as a backup for 15 mpg.

If we go small JBJ and RoJo together. However, I'd like to see a JBJ running off screens wearing his defender down as he gets open look after open look. Each would ideally get 25-30 minutes.

Morgan, with improved shooting, and Hartman would be perfect as screeners to open up JBJ and Green or to pop/slash after setting screens. Freddie would be perfect for 10-15 mpg of hardboard defense, rebounding, and making the opponents guards think twice how they handle ballscreens.

Finally, Bryant adding muscle and playing big on the block could free up shooters. He should be rebounding at a high level and getting drop off passes from Green. Davis should be a force with an entire offseason of conditioning. We have the horses to physically punish opponents now.

[Trish]

8 minutes ago, WayneFleekHoosier said:

Looking at this proposed lineup we are going to lose some guys IMO. We look deep (on paper).

I think OG and Blackmon still make the most sense. Mum is the word with Bryant as well. I think he knows well enough to not even try.


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I'd be okay with Jones leaving. Green has potential to be a PG in the B1G. 

[Yogi'sBicep]

1 hour ago, Treesh said:

I SPY AN OG AND A ROJO

What I would do to be that tall, that athletic, that talented, or that big. What a life OG what a life 

[Trish]

1 minute ago, HoosierAloha said:

Green / Newkirk
Blackmon Jr. / Johnson
Morgan / Smith
Hartman / McSwain
Bryant / Davis

This would never happen but I would like to see it.

Green has a higher ceiling than Newkirk. He needs run with the starters in the noncon to get a better feel. Newkirk could be really solid as a backup for 15 mpg.

If we go small JBJ and RoJo together. However, I'd like to see a JBJ running off screens wearing his defender down as he gets open look after open look. Each would ideally get 25-30 minutes.

Morgan, with improved shooting, and Hartman would be perfect as screeners to open up JBJ and Green or to pop/slash after setting screens. Freddie would be perfect for 10-15 mpg of hardboard defense, rebounding, and making the opponents guards think twice how they handle ballscreens.

Finally, Bryant adding muscle and playing big on the block could free up shooters. He should be rebounding at a high level and getting drop off passes from Green. Davis should be a force with an entire offseason of conditioning. We have the horses to physically punish opponents now.

I agree with Green over Josh. I couldn't stand Josh as a player here. But having Archie ( a former D1 PG) coach Josh for a summer could really be interesting.

Morgan on the wing would be interesting.. I like him off the bench supplying that energy and basketball IQ. Collin being back is HUGE, no question about that. We need Collin starting. He's a natural leader and a very high IQ player. 

 

 

[Bowhunter]

Ideally, we would trade Smith and Moore for Priller and Gelon. Most of our roster would be compiled of 4 star recruits or better.

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My guess is Crean couldn't land any other Indiana kids so he took a flyer on Gelon so he could show he recruits Indiana .

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[WayneFleekHoosier]

FWIW- Albers reporting Rojo to return.


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[tyappleg]

FWIW- Albers reporting Rojo to return.


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BREAKING: Robert Johnson declares for NBA draft, will hire agent. /s


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[Bowhunter]

I think Newkirk is going to be special this season. He has all the tools! He just needs a coach.

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[Baltimore Hoosier]

 

16 minutes ago, HoosierAloha said:

Green / Newkirk
Blackmon Jr. / Johnson
Morgan / Smith
Hartman / McSwain
Bryant / Davis

This would never happen but I would like to see it.

Green has a higher ceiling than Newkirk. He needs run with the starters in the noncon to get a better feel. Newkirk could be really solid as a backup for 15 mpg.

If we go small JBJ and RoJo together. However, I'd like to see a JBJ running off screens wearing his defender down as he gets open look after open look. Each would ideally get 25-30 minutes.

Morgan, with improved shooting, and Hartman would be perfect as screeners to open up JBJ and Green or to pop/slash after setting screens. Freddie would be perfect for 10-15 mpg of hardboard defense, rebounding, and making the opponents guards think twice how they handle ballscreens.

Finally, Bryant adding muscle and playing big on the block could free up shooters. He should be rebounding at a high level and getting drop off passes from Green. Davis should be a force with an entire offseason of conditioning. We have the horses to physically punish opponents now.

What about Curtis Jones? I think he would be in line for some minutes. Don't see him being the 11th man on this team.

[WayneFleekHoosier]

I think Newkirk is going to be special this season. He has all the tools! He just needs a coach.

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Needs to stop dribbling off his own feet.

He did get in a groove though down the stretch.


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[Class of '66 Old Fart]

6 minutes ago, WayneFleekHoosier said:

FWIW- Albers reporting Rojo to return.


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Well that's the kiss of death if it's coming from BDWIB Albers.   (Billy D was in Bloomington)

[HoosierAloha]

I'm buying what you're selling. I am not a fan of "position-less" or 3 guard line-ups. No reason to come up with anything fancy.
UNC (spits) just won a NC (spits again) with a basically traditional line-up that plays good, fundamental ball. IU just needs to get back to doing it too. Talented players + fundamentals= lots o wins.

Agree, defined roles with the ability to adapt is what we need. I'm fine with versatility to a certain extent but not the kind that has your only big on the floor playing point.

We have some players that can play multiple positions in different lineups. Morgan playing the three or four. RoJo or JBJ playing the three in smaller lineups. DD and TB playing together for short stretches.

[HoosierAloha]

 
What about Curtis Jones? I think he would be in line for some minutes. Don't see him being the 11th man on this team.

I see him as the 10th or 11th man on this team. He's not a point so JN/Green play before him. RoJo and JBJ are clearly ahead of him. He's the 5th best guard we have. If we go small and play a three guard lineup he'll probably get more minutes. I don't see him playing in front of Hartman, Morgan, or Smith on the wing.

If he sticks around he could play huge minutes as a junior with Newkirk, RoJo, and JBJ gone.

[woodenshoemanHoosierfan]

I hate espn.

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I only watch games

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[Yogi's Picnic Basket]

Jeremiah Tilmon has requested his release from Illini.

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