Player and Recruit Retention News/Discussion & Potential Transfers

[Hoosierfan2017 20,931]

7 minutes ago, SteelerHoosier said:

It doesn't work like that. You can't just say well since we were close last year and have a new coach we will get over the hump. I fully expect to be better. Just not a squad that makes it to the E8 or is ranked in the top 10 during the season

That's not what I'm saying.. It's not like it was a case where we tried our best in those games and got beat by teams that were just better than us. Even after OG went down we had one of the most talented rosters in the Big Ten. We usually lost games because we didn't play defense, we were careless with the ball, and we didn't have an offense if 3s weren't falling. The talent is already there, it's up to Archie to get the most out of it. Crean obviously couldn't do that.

[SteelerHoosier 2,586]

5 minutes ago, Hoosierfan2017 said:

That's not what I'm saying.. It's not like it was a case where we tried our best in those games and got beat by teams that were just better than us. Even after OG went down we had one of the most talented rosters in the Big Ten. We usually lost games because we didn't play defense, we were careless with the ball, and we didn't have an offense if 3s weren't falling. The talent is already there, it's up to Archie to get the most out of it. Crean obviously couldn't do it. 

And again I expect this team to be better. I can see Archie getting a year long ranked club out of this bunch. Just not a top ten squad. 

[Jdyer44 2]

4 hours ago, Class of '66 Old Fart said:

Phinisee and Langford would be nice starts to the '18 class.

Obviously, we would all love to have Romeo but I think Phinisee is  program changer...4 year floor general with fantastic IQ

[recker222000 1,010]

Agreed. We could contend in another weak big ten and maybe do something in the dance though

Could be similair to sampsons first year. Its certainly not goiung to be the dumpster fire the crean apologists claimed it would be

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[Miller'sTheMan 1,652]

Not expecting Langford, just get Phinisee and Jallow to start the class.

[Hoosierfan2017 20,931]

25 minutes ago, Yogi's Picnic Basket said:

This is a great point as well. Just keeping turnovers down even 3 or 4 could have gave us an extra win or two, maybe more last year. Probably a NCAA team who could get hot and beat anyone. We will find out in 6 months.

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We averaged 15.2 turnovers and gave up 73.3 points a game last year... 14th and 13th in the conference respectively. Yikes. Relatively minor improvements in those two categories alone would be huge.

13 minutes ago, SteelerHoosier said:

And again I expect this team to be better. I can see Archie getting a year long ranked club out of this bunch. Just not a top ten squad. 

We'll have to wait to see how good they look with Archie coaching them. Top 10 might be too high but regardless I think we'll be a tournament team. Once we're there anything can happen. 

[Yogi's Picnic Basket 5,004]

Musa Jallow & Robert Phinisee are the realistic options to start the 18 class. Romeo if he waits till spring may come here. IMHO the more success we have with Archie the better. If we are a decent team, does he really wanna come here and be a savior? He is just looking for a place to rest his head for a year.

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[Brass Cannon 24,271]

1 minute ago, Yogi's Picnic Basket said:

Musa Jallow & Robert Phinisee are the realistic options to start the 18 class. Romeo if he waits till spring may come here. IMHO the more success we have with Archie the better. If we are a decent team, does he really wanna come here and be a savior? He is just looking for a place to rest his head for a year.

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No he's looking for a place to build his brand. 

[Trish 11,506]

Might want to pass on Musa, haven't really been impressed by him. 

[HOOsier Thunder 148]

3 minutes ago, Treesh said:

Might want to pass on Musa, haven't really been impressed by him. 

I would not suggest passing on anyone that Tony Bennett is after.

[Hoosier Guy 7,518]

I foresee Romeo going to IU


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[Brass Cannon 24,271]

1 minute ago, Hoosier Guy said:

I foresee Romeo going to IU


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Let's hope this isn't another Billy Donovan situation :)

[Walking Boot of Doom 18,170]

I foresee Romeo going to IU


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Is he bringing Billy Donovan with him?

Based on various posters on this board stating that Langford wasn't a Crean fan, our odds obviously increased with the hiring of Archie. Let's see what happens in April. Excited to see who Archie prioritizes.


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[MoyeNeeded 3,073]

We'll have to wait to see how good they look with Archie coaching them. Top 10 might be too high but regardless I think we'll be a tournament team. Once we're there anything can happen. 

Turnovers are the key! You allow more opportunities for your opponent and less for yourself. Cut those by 35% on average and you are allowing 4-8pts less and in turn hopefully scoring 4-8pts more. That's a possible 16 pt swing. How many games did we lose by 7pts or less? Quite a few!

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[Hoosier Guy 7,518]

10 minutes ago, Brass Cannon said:

Let's hope this isn't another Billy Donovan situation :)

I'm 1-1 lol. I was adamant Crean was gone and adamant Donovan was gonna be the new coach. The odds of Romeo obviously increased. I view it like the Eric Gordon situation

[ap2345 7,571]

My prediction is history repeats itself in this aspect.

RMK: 6 years at Army

CAM: 6 years at Dayton

RMK: 1st recruiting class 7 (3 from Indiana) recruits highlighted by Buckner

CAM: 1st recruiting class 6 or 7 (3 from Indiana) recruits highlighted by Romeo

We lose JBJ, Johnson, Priller, Newkirk, McSwain, Hartman, and Bryant.

In state recruits we get are Romeo, Phinisee, and either Jallow or Anderson.

[AKHoosier 6,747]

Do we have a shot with Keion Brooks (2018) out of Fort Wayne?

He's a borderline 5* PF who's being recruited by most of the B1G, but I think Michigan State and PU are up there. 

It doesn't seem like Crean prioritized him.

[Hoosierfan2017 20,931]

5 minutes ago, AKHoosier said:

Do we have a shot with Keion Brooks (2018) out of Fort Wayne?

He's a borderline 5* PF who's being recruited by most of the B1G, but I think Michigan State and PU are up there. 

It doesn't seem like Crean prioritized him.

I remember seeing something right after Crean got fired about how it made him more interested in us. I forget if it was a tweet or an article or what.

Here it was. I don't have premium access so all I saw was the title. https://indiana.rivals.com/news/2019-four-star-keion-brooks-open-to-iu-after-coaching-change?preview=true

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[ap2345 7,571]

Just now, AKHoosier said:

Do we have a shot with Keion Brooks (2018) out of Fort Wayne?

He's a borderline 5* PF who's being recruited by most of the B1G, but I think Michigan State and PU are up there. 

It doesn't seem like Crean prioritized him.

He's a sophomore 2019 class. I agree he should be prioritized for that class although he is still kind of awkward for his size but I think he will be a very good college basketball player. 

[WayneFleekHoosier 47,975]

Do we have a shot with Keion Brooks (2018) out of Fort Wayne?
He's a borderline 5* PF who's being recruited by most of the B1G, but I think Michigan State and PU are up there. 
It doesn't seem like Crean prioritized him.

Yeah. MSU has put in a lot of work already. He likes them. But we have a shot.




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