TOM CREAN FIRED

[Yogi's Picnic Basket]

James is graduating this year correct? If he's not going to the G-League (Once called the D-League) , then I imagine he'll try to be a graduate transfer for a team that actually has a chance at doing something in March. 

Haven't heard about the CTC-Sr thing..wow.. I mean I'd be pissed too if my son's coach wasn't using him correctly. 

I haven't heard a word that JBJ was close to graduating, but Marion is the type of town that runs off their stars. I have heard people saying Sr wants him to go to MSU. Most feel Sr wants him to leave B Town. If we lose tonight, I wouldn't be surprised to see JBJ sit out the rest of the way.

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1 minute ago, TheWatShot said:

I want to see it get to 1,000. 

Me too, but only on the condition that it gets there before April (very likely, I might add).

[Yogi's Picnic Basket]

If Crean stays the transfers are gonna be just as bad as the NBA kids. We will certainly lose at least 5 kids. Media members don't watch this team game by game. The body language of our guys out there are just not in it. I always felt college basketball and football was one of those jobs covering is almost impossible. They only hear what people want them to hear.

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[Trish]

Reading some opinion article on the situation. Why can't Brad just come home :(

[Trish]

4 minutes ago, Yogi's Picnic Basket said:

If Crean stays the transfers are gonna be just as bad as the NBA kids. We will certainly lose at least 5 kids. Media members don't watch this team game by game. The body language of our guys out there are just not in it. I always felt college basketball and football was one of those jobs covering is almost impossible. They only hear what people want them to hear.

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James- G-League

OG- NBA

Bryant - NBA/G-League

Green - Transfer

Jones - Transfer 

I'd say this is very very possible. 

[Yogi's Picnic Basket]

James- G-League

OG- NBA

Bryant - NBA/G-League

Green - Transfer

Jones - Transfer 

I'd say this is very very possible. 

The only kids I see staying at least 80% are RoJo, JN, McSwain(may be pushed out), & DD. I think Priller is done regardless. Probably spends last year here on academic scholly. Gelon will probably transfer to lower school.

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[CrossboneIU22]

47 minutes ago, Yogi's Picnic Basket said:

To add to it there are rumors around Marion like there usually always are about JBJ but some at school at saying if he doesn't go pro he is gonna try to graduate and transfer.

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This gives me hope that if we get a top notch coach in here and his pro prospects aren't great, that there is a chance he might actually stay.  However, if Crean is still here, then I think it would be the best thing for JBJ as he can improve his draft stock by going to a better coach who will know how to use him.  Sadly, if he went to UK, I think he would have been in the NBA already.  Doesn't mean he would have lasted but he would have been drafted 1st round already in my opinion.

[mdn82]

To add to it there are rumors around Marion like there usually always are about JBJ but some at school at saying if he doesn't go pro he is gonna try to graduate and transfer.

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He would not have been here this year if he would not have got injured last year. Senior did not like Crean before Jr came here. Mom did. Senior wanted James to be one and done. Mom wanted a degree. James is not coming back.


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[Rookie33]

3 minutes ago, CrossboneIU22 said:

This gives me hope that if we get a top notch coach in here and his pro prospects aren't great, that there is a chance he might actually stay.  However, if Crean is still here, then I think it would be the best thing for JBJ as he can improve his draft stock by going to a better coach who will know how to use him.  Sadly, if he went to UK, I think he would have been in the NBA already.  Doesn't mean he would have lasted but he would have been drafted 1st round already in my opinion.

I actually think he would have transferred out of Kentucky like Wiltjer did had he gone there.  JBJ can shoot and that's about it; I think his PT would have been more limited at Kentucky than it has been here, and I don't think he (or Senior) would have been satisfied with that.  

[mdn82]

I haven't heard a word that JBJ was close to graduating, but Marion is the type of town that runs off their stars. I have heard people saying Sr wants him to go to MSU. Most feel Sr wants him to leave B Town. If we lose tonight, I wouldn't be surprised to see JBJ sit out the rest of the way.

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That will not happen barring injury due to him still wanting to go to the NBA.


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[Stuhoo]

5 minutes ago, CrossboneIU22 said:

Sadly, if he went to UK, I think he would have been in the NBA already.  Doesn't mean he would have lasted but he would have been drafted 1st round already in my opinion.

 

Not sure I agree; JBj came to IU with damaged knees, and regular practice and game time has only exasperated that problem. Likely would have had the same continuing issues had he went to UK.

 

[mdn82]

This team has given up. It won't even be close.

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But I am sure you will be in the game thread talking about how we won't lose...


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[CrossboneIU22]

1 minute ago, Rookie33 said:

I actually think he would have transferred out of Kentucky like Wiltjer did had he gone there.  JBJ can shoot and that's about it; I think his PT would have been more limited at Kentucky than it has been here, and I don't think he (or Senior) would have been satisfied with that.  

I can see that but I think Cal would have used him properly and he would have showed enough to be a one and done or 2 and done.  With the number of players UK is sending to the NBA, and the whole 2 squad thing he did, the limited playing time would help hide any deficiencies a player has vs playing 35 minutes a game.  His prior reputation/rankings would have held up where they are virtually non existent now because he has been exposed and the proof is on tape.

[CrossboneIU22]

10 minutes ago, Stuhoo said:

 

Not sure I agree; JBj came to IU with damaged knees, and regular practice and game time has only exasperated that problem. Likely would have had the same continuing issues had he went to UK.

 

I am not sure the practices at UK would have been as high tempo as they supposedly are here along with the lesser workload (mpg) could have actually worked in his favor.  Keep in mind, I firmly believe that our strength training program kills pure shooters their Freshman year until they adjust to their new bodies so take that away and he shoots like he is this year as a Freshman at UK, with less exposure to poor defense and its possible.  I'm not talking high 1st round but in the 20-30 range possibly.

 

Then again, I could be completely wrong.  No way of knowing at this point.  I really like JBJ as a player, just wish he would have been used properly while he was here.

[HoosierCoop]

30 minutes ago, CrossboneIU22 said:

I am not sure the practices at UK would have been as high tempo as they supposedly are here along with the lesser workload (mpg) could have actually worked in his favor.  Keep in mind, I firmly believe that our strength training program kills pure shooters their Freshman year until they adjust to their new bodies so take that away and he shoots like he is this year as a Freshman at UK, with less exposure to poor defense and its possible.  I'm not talking high 1st round but in the 20-30 range possibly.

 

Then again, I could be completely wrong.  No way of knowing at this point.  I really like JBJ as a player, just wish he would have been used properly while he was here.

I would have liked to see JBJ in the motion offense.  You would probably be amazed and what you would see.

[Hoosier Guy]

1 hour ago, Hoosierfan2017 said:

I hated Vonleh at the time those rumors were circulating but now I completely understand. 

I honestly didn't hate Vonleh at the time because that team was dead either way. And we knew why he was sitting out. Draft stock to an extent but he absolutely hated Crean

[Uspshoosier]

3 hours ago, HoosierTrav said:

 

The committee takes many things into consideration. The fact that we were sliding in February had a lot to do with it. No one in the country had the wins we had.

 

All games count.  While iu was were home after losing in their conference tournament  Louisville and Kansas racked up 2 more quality wins then iu could.  Don't lay an egg in the conference tournament and iu gets the 1 overall seed.  After looking at my projections for that year in my bracket I had them as the 2nd overall seed behind Louisville but ahead of Kansas.    Still the point is people acting like iu was the clear cut favorite that year and no team was close to them is alternative facts.  Louisville was just as deserving to be called the favorites 

[Hoosierfan2017]

3 minutes ago, Hoosier Guy said:

I honestly didn't hate Vonleh at the time because that team was dead either way. And we knew why he was sitting out. Draft stock to an extent but he absolutely hated Crean

I'm talking more about the rumors of him talking negatively to recruits about IU/Crean, telling them not to come here, etc. 

[Yogi's Picnic Basket]

That will not happen barring injury due to him still wanting to go to the NBA.


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Why? He has plenty of tape for them to dissect. Scouts would rather see him healthy during combine/workouts than if he continues playing and has to have surgery again. I get where your coming from but it wouldn't shut the door for him.

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[Hoosier Guy]

3 minutes ago, Hoosierfan2017 said:

I'm talking more about the rumors of him talking negatively to recruits about IU/Crean, telling them not to come here, etc. 

Oh I didn't see any rumors about that. Yeah I can understand the hate for that