TOM CREAN FIRED

[VO5]

Alright, I know everyone is coming up with sources these days. So take this FWIW. 

Just talked to an old college roommate who knows someone with connections to the athletic department. This guy apparently says Crean is for sure gone at the end of the season and IU is trying to help him land somewhere. Just confirming what all the other sources are saying about Crean. I know this doesn't help with a new coach but wanted to post it. 

[mdiu28]

3 minutes ago, Class of '66 Old Fart said:

For an AD that forced Curt Miller and Kevin Wilson out of their positions - not arguing if that was right or wrong - I can't fathom going after Alford and the personal character baggage he drags behind him apparently dating all the way from his days on campus as a player to the handling of the Iowa rape matter and the other innuendos about him at Iowa and New Mexico that do not speak highly for his personal character.  

I'm no lawyer but Glass is. 

If Wilson was really treating his players the way it was reported, he needed to go - for legal reasons if nothing else. The university would have been sued. So I'd hardly say he forced Wilson out. Wilson made his own bed. 

[HoosierSadaseci]

1 hour ago, Brass Cannon said:

Hopefully Janitor is wrong. Being fed false info 

Why?  Then we can't rely on his info being accurate in the future.

[Walking Boot of Doom]

Alford would do well at IU. I really believe that. He's has evolved. He understands IU more than any coach in College Basketball. He bridges the gap to RMK. Would repair relationships with IN HS coaches. And he'd most likely being Wilkes with him. While certainly not a home run, he checks more boxes than Clappy. I'll take anyone to get Crean out of this state.

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Alford resume after 22 years coaching at Iowa, New Mexico, and UCLA:

- never made it past the S16
- missed the tournament 12 times
- the alleged rape cover up at Iowa


Sounds like worse results than Crean, with a much, much shittier character.


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[mdn82]

Alford would do well at IU. I really believe that. He's has evolved. He understands IU more than any coach in College Basketball. He bridges the gap to RMK. Would repair relationships with IN HS coaches. And he'd most likely being Wilkes with him. While certainly not a home run, he checks more boxes than Clappy. I'll take anyone to get Crean out of this state.

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In 21 years he has never made it past the Sweet 16. He has missed the tournament all together almost half of his time. Who cares about bridging gaps to RMK at this point? What does that do for 16 year olds who weren't alive when he was at IU? Pleasing people 35 and over does not win games. Recruiting is more about pleasing AAU coaches than HS coaches. So I think that relationship is overblown. Other than that I agree with everything you said.


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[woodenshoemanHoosierfan]

Better than Alford?

Yes

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[Maynard]

1 minute ago, Walking Boot of Doom said:

Alford resume after 22 years coaching at Iowa, New Mexico, and UCLA:

- never made it past the S16
- missed the tournament 12 times
- the alleged rape cover up at Iowa


Sounds like worse results than Crean, with a much, much shittier character.


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But does he clap annoyingly on the sidelines? DWS

Thankfully the choices are not just Crean vs Alford.  I think the whole thing is closer  being done than we know, and it's not Alford.

[HoosierSadaseci]

The one positive that I can see from Alford coaching IU would be that he can mend relations with Indiana high school and AAU coaches, which will help with recruiting...Other than that I got nothing.

[Zeke]

Exactly. If BS was our #1 and said no and BD was our #2 and won't commit then what does that say about how the IU job is viewed? If IU is still so great and a blue blood then why do we have to settle for 3rd,4th, or 5th choices? Are there such deep issues in the athletic department that high profile coaches don't want any part of? Is Fred Glass the problem? 

This is silly ...

1. Brad Stevens is experiencing lots of success in Boston.... He's not saying no because IU is a mess... This guy just coached the NBA Eastern Conference All Stars.

2. Donovan.... From what I've read, it's a timing thing.. it might even be the case that he wanted to coach through the playoffs and IU wanted him to commit now...

Again, he's not giving IU the finger by not committing ..

These 2 were "pie in the sky" reaches. So our 3rd 4th or 5th choices may very well be the top 2-3 AVAILABLE coaches.

Let's not freak out.


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[pumpfake]

Why in the world would we want a coach who was no longer wanted by Iowa?  Heck, maybe we should be targeting Bruce Weber for cryin' out loud!

[mdn82]

Ha, Dalton did you pin the Forum Guidelines multiple times? The only thing showing up thread wise is this and that a few times.


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[mdn82]

Why in the world would we want a coach who was no longer wanted by Iowa?  Heck, maybe we should be targeting Bruce Weber for cryin' out loud!

Because he played under RMK and might get him to come back to wave at the crowd.


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[hsrtxp]

Ha, Dalton did you pin the Forum Guidelines multiple times? The only thing showing up thread wise is this and that a few times.


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Just in case anyone missed the first time!


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[Maynard]

I say IU hire Cheaney with Fife as his head assistant and brings Bailey back as well.  If Alford wants to be the head equipment manager that's cool.  Of that doesn't work out they should see if Jerry Sloan is available.

[madtownhoosier]

What is the status on Kris Wilkes?  Did he just verbal or did he sign with UCLA?

[mdn82]

What is the status on Kris Wilkes?  Did he just verbal or did he sign with UCLA?

He signed.


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[mark1981]

How could anyone see that Crean sucks and think Alford would be a good replacement?

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[mdiu28]

Just now, mark1981 said:

How could anyone see that Crean sucks and think Alford would be a good replacement?

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I think most are against Alford - well, maybe not Fred Glass apparently 

[Yogi's Picnic Basket]

Jonny Jones has been fired by LSU. Another opening woot woot.

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[JSHoosier]

I've been as vocal against Crean as anyone on this board, for a couple of years now.  He's been overrated as a recruiter and he's a mediocre in-game coach.  That being said, if the choice was Steven Alford or Tom Crean I'd take Tom Crean after a kick to the groin.