Brass Cannon Posted January 31, 2017 Posted January 31, 2017 Just now, Uspshoosier said: When I said basketball community I meant the people that actually matter like other head coaches, assistant coaches, AD, media. Sorry for the confusion. I don't really care that orange crazy person Illinois fan on Illinois loyality doesn't view iu's program as a blue blood Sent from my iPhone using BtownBanners Judging by our inability to lure a better candidate than our last 3 head coaches going to have to say that unless you have evidence the coaching community views us as a top 6 job I am going to say you are wrong. And when it comes to media pundits it fits their narrative and is mostly a select few. And it's not one fan it's the majority of every fanbases. Millions upon million of basketball fans say nay. Quote
BlueDevil Posted January 31, 2017 Posted January 31, 2017 "The bottom line is we hafta play faster." The Mike D'Antoni of college basketball.Sent from my iPhone using BtownBanners HoosierAloha 1 Quote
Brass Cannon Posted January 31, 2017 Posted January 31, 2017 2 minutes ago, Uspshoosier said: Interesting then that jerry Meyer has a Facebook live Q and A on Indiana recruiting all the time because he knows the fan base is there and he takes advantage of it. ( the only other teams he does that for are Duke, North Carolina, Kansas and Kentucky. Sent from my iPhone using BtownBanners Because we have a devoted fanbase and a large fanbase Quote
Uspshoosier Posted January 31, 2017 Posted January 31, 2017 Judging by our inability to lure a better candidate than our last 3 head coaches going to have to say that unless you have evidence the coaching community views us as a top 6 job I am going to say you are wrong. And when it comes to media pundits it fits their narrative and is mostly a select few. And it's not one fan it's the majority of every fanbases. Millions upon million of basketball fans say nay.You got proof millions upon millions say nay.Sent from my iPhone using BtownBanners Quote
Uspshoosier Posted January 31, 2017 Posted January 31, 2017 Because we have a devoted fanbase and a large fanbaseOr because we are a blue blood Sent from my iPhone using BtownBanners Quote
Brass Cannon Posted January 31, 2017 Posted January 31, 2017 2 minutes ago, Uspshoosier said: Sounds to me like you are too worried about what other fan bases view IU instead of what coaches, scouts, and other people in the business view IU Sent from my iPhone using BtownBanners Look at our last 3 coaching staffs sorry that does not seem to indicate being a blue blood. Quote
Brass Cannon Posted January 31, 2017 Posted January 31, 2017 1 minute ago, Uspshoosier said: You got proof millions upon millions say nay. Sent from my iPhone using BtownBanners No data just getting mocked my entire life when I have referred to IU as a blue blood outside of Bloomington. Any proof coaches view us as elite? Quote
Uspshoosier Posted January 31, 2017 Posted January 31, 2017 Look at our last 3 coaching staffs sorry that does not seem to indicate being a blue blood. I just looked. Still a blue blood Sent from my iPhone using BtownBanners Quote
Uspshoosier Posted January 31, 2017 Posted January 31, 2017 No data just getting mocked my entire life when I have referred to IU as a blue blood outside of Bloomington. Any proof coaches view us as elite? Elite and being a blue blood are different things Sent from my iPhone using BtownBanners Quote
Uspshoosier Posted January 31, 2017 Posted January 31, 2017 No data just getting mocked my entire life when I have referred to IU as a blue blood outside of Bloomington. Any proof coaches view us as elite? Kansas bill self this year when talking about these 2 blue blood programs playing more often and it would benefit both programs. He never mentioned elite just blue blood. Kansas City star article Sent from my iPhone using BtownBanners Quote
Brass Cannon Posted January 31, 2017 Posted January 31, 2017 1 minute ago, Uspshoosier said: Kansas bill self this year when talking about these 2 blue blood programs playing more often and it would benefit both programs. He never mentioned elite just blue blood. Kansas City star article Sent from my iPhone using BtownBanners So one coach that was trying to get us to play him again cause he figured more often than not it would be an easy win. If we were so desirable we wouldn't have gotten stuck with Crean Quote
IUHAHN81 Posted January 31, 2017 Posted January 31, 2017 "We hafta do a better job of switching and not over helping but I'm more concerned with us missing free throws and not knocking down open shots." Haha. Always back to offense. HoosierAloha 1 Quote
Josh Posted January 31, 2017 Posted January 31, 2017 Only three programs have ncaa titles in 4 different decades. Indiana, Kentucky, North Carolina. That's blue blood.FIRE HIM! This is embarrassing mdn82 and thebigweave 2 Quote
Hoosierfan2017 Posted January 31, 2017 Posted January 31, 2017 12 minutes ago, Brass Cannon said: Judging by our inability to lure a better candidate than our last 3 head coaches going to have to say that unless you have evidence the coaching community views us as a top 6 job I am going to say you are wrong. And when it comes to media pundits it fits their narrative and is mostly a select few. And it's not one fan it's the majority of every fanbases. Millions upon million of basketball fans say nay. I was only a little kid when Davis was hired so I don't know the circumstances behind that one (why he was picked, who else was being considered, etc.) but Sampson is a good coach. He's dirty, but as an actual coach he's much better than Crean. Then of course it was going to be hard to lure a top guy here to deal with the mess that Sampson left. I don't think hiring an elite coach was IU's #1 priority at that point. Ryno6284, Happydaze and CrossboneIU22 3 Quote
HoosierAloha Posted January 31, 2017 Posted January 31, 2017 Elite and being a blue blood are different things Sent from my iPhone using BtownBannersI think this is where the mix up is coming from. Blue blood is more of a who's who in the history of college basketball while elite is the top programs today. You can be a blue blood and elite (IU is not), elite (IU is not), or a blue blood (IU is). You don't have the third most titles, top 10 all time wins, tied for the most B1G titles, multiple NPOY, a slew of AA, multiple HOF coaches, a massive fan base, a ton of money poured into the program, top notch facilities, etc if you're not a blueboood. It's really that simple. thebigweave 1 Quote
Brass Cannon Posted January 31, 2017 Posted January 31, 2017 10 minutes ago, Uspshoosier said: Elite and being a blue blood are different things Sent from my iPhone using BtownBanners Being a blue blood is not accepting mediocrity for 30 years. I have never seen a NC for IU and I'm about to have a daughter. We are literally a generation away from a NC. You aren't a blue blood if the older generation can't tell the younger generation what being relevant and winning an NC is like. Quote
Uspshoosier Posted January 31, 2017 Posted January 31, 2017 So one coach that was trying to get us to play him again cause he figured more often than not it would be an easy win. If we were so desirable we wouldn't have gotten stuck with CreanYou only asked for one? Jon calipari presser after losing to IU in round if 32, Roy Williams presser after destroying IU, Chris Collins pregame talk last year taking about hoping to get northwestern program like Indiana. Calling it a blue blood and the class of the B1G. If u want more just watch more press conferences. I'm sure they are all lying and message board fans of other fan bases hold more weight. LolSent from my iPhone using BtownBanners thebigweave and CrossboneIU22 2 Quote
JSHoosier Posted January 31, 2017 Posted January 31, 2017 12 minutes ago, Brass Cannon said: Judging by our inability to lure a better candidate than our last 3 head coaches going to have to say that unless you have evidence the coaching community views us as a top 6 job I am going to say you are wrong. And when it comes to media pundits it fits their narrative and is mostly a select few. And it's not one fan it's the majority of every fanbases. Millions upon million of basketball fans say nay. Bob Knight's players were the reason Davis got hired, I don't think that speaks to the caliber of coach the program is capable of hiring as there wasn't a real coaching search. Samsung, I have no idea what the administration was drinking when they did that. Then with the disaster Samsung left I can see why other coaches wouldn't be interested, different times now they don't have to clean up that mess. Ryno6284, HoosierAloha and Class of '66 Old Fart 3 Quote
Uspshoosier Posted January 31, 2017 Posted January 31, 2017 Being a blue blood is not accepting mediocrity for 30 years. I have never seen a NC for IU and I'm about to have a daughter. We are literally a generation away from a NC. You aren't a blue blood if the older generation can't tell the younger generation what being relevant and winning an NC is like. Your definition thankfully not mine. If it makes u feel better to not call IU a blue blood then that's your right. Sent from my iPhone using BtownBanners Quote
Brass Cannon Posted January 31, 2017 Posted January 31, 2017 1 minute ago, HoosierAloha said: I think this is where the mix up is coming from. Blue blood is more of a who's who in the history of college basketball while elite is the top programs today. You can be a blue blood and elite (IU is not), elite (IU is not), or a blue blood (IU is). You don't have the third most titles, top 10 all time wins, tied for the most B1G titles, multiple NPOY, a slew of AA, multiple HOF coaches, a massive fan base, a ton of money poured into the program, top notch facilities, etc if you're not a blueboood. It's really that simple. I don't think it's a club you get to stay in just because you were in it before. When we last won an NC we were what second in titles? 4 schools have won 3-5 titles since we last won one Quote
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