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If OSU beats Texas, they will probably be 10+ points favs vs. ND.

I'll be cheering for OSU.  I really dislike OSU, but to them it's just another title.  ND winning it all would break a 36 year drought or whatever is, which would be a huge deal for them.  I don't want to see that for snobby ND.  I like Marcus Freeman, but ND is just an insufferable institution. 

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56 minutes ago, Alford Bailey said:

I really like Marcus Freeman. Thought he was gonna be in over his head at ND but I was wrong. Absolutely can’t stand Brian Kelly so I’ll be rooting for ND.

Brian Kelly looks to have made a bad career decision.  lol

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I like that Brian Kelly went to a school with higher upside than ND -- the last three LSU coaches won national titles, it's just a bigger program that's easier to recruit to.  But, he flopped, and it's all on him and not the program, which is great.

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1 hour ago, Alford Bailey said:

I really like Marcus Freeman. Thought he was gonna be in over his head at ND but I was wrong. Absolutely can’t stand Brian Kelly so I’ll be rooting for ND.

I felt the same. Credit where it’s due. Dude made it happen. But I can’t root for them. I want to see ND and OSU in the NC game solely for the IU angle, but since I can’t then root for both to lose I’m just looking for an entertaining game. 

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9 minutes ago, Alford Bailey said:

I really like Marcus Freeman. Thought he was gonna be in over his head at ND but I was wrong. Absolutely can’t stand Brian Kelly so I’ll be rooting for ND.

Same. Being from South Bend I've been an ND fan my whole life. But my interest dwindled when Kelly was there, just could never stand him.

I like Freeman a lot and have started to root for them more again. 

Still a little bitter, wish we would have smashed them though.

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1 hour ago, Alford Bailey said:

I really like Marcus Freeman. Thought he was gonna be in over his head at ND but I was wrong. Absolutely can’t stand Brian Kelly so I’ll be rooting for ND.

If he’s as good as some believe, then the NFL may come calling.

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4 hours ago, Pagoda said:

I like that Brian Kelly went to a school with higher upside than ND -- the last three LSU coaches won national titles, it's just a bigger program that's easier to recruit to.  But, he flopped, and it's all on him and not the program, which is great.

Used to have higher upside. I feel like I’ve been fighting ND football and IU basketball fans on this for 5+ years and now they finally understand: NIL is a godsend for a select few programs and they are two of them.  
 

ND had good teams under Kelly, but depth was a huge issue. Injuries to a key player derailed a season. Now they actually have some depth. It’s amazing they’re this far because they’ve had more injuries to key players than I can remember. But they’ve been very successful in recruiting and the transfer portal getting the guys they need to fill out a roster. If they had a QB (ironically their one portal miss) they’d easily be the best team in the country if healthy.  
 

IU basketball is in a similar position. Sadly we don’t have a “Marcus Freeman” as a coach. Who knows how long this wild west days of NIL lasts but the window should be wide open for programs like IU basketball and ND football.  Again, weirdly enough IU now has a go-getter as a football coach and they are taking advantage of it too. Awesome to see though…SEC teams will have to raise more cash to reassert their former dominance.

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22 minutes ago, str8baller said:

Used to have higher upside. I feel like I’ve been fighting ND football and IU basketball fans on this for 5+ years and now they finally understand: NIL is a godsend for a select few programs and they are two of them.  
 

ND had good teams under Kelly, but depth was a huge issue. Injuries to a key player derailed a season. Now they actually have some depth. It’s amazing they’re this far because they’ve had more injuries to key players than I can remember. But they’ve been very successful in recruiting and the transfer portal getting the guys they need to fill out a roster. If they had a QB (ironically their one portal miss) they’d easily be the best team in the country if healthy.  
 

IU basketball is in a similar position. Sadly we don’t have a “Marcus Freeman” as a coach. Who knows how long this wild west days of NIL lasts but the window should be wide open for programs like IU basketball and ND football.  Again, weirdly enough IU now has a go-getter as a football coach and they are taking advantage of it too. Awesome to see though…SEC teams will have to raise more cash to reassert their former dominance.

I agree, certainly on IUBB.  Imo folks don't fully realize the huge advantage of having top-5 payroll.  Especially compared to the pre-NIL era when IU didn't pay much under the table, heck we couldn't even break the rules on texts/calls without getting ourselves in trouble.

I don't know much about ND FB, but given they're a wealthy school I assume their NIL is pretty good.  That probably closed a lot of gap to LSU, who paid players under the table as well as anyone pre-NIL.  LSU may still have some advantage from being in the middle of high school football talent and their admissions are probably easier.  But yea, fair point their advantage is smaller now.  Still funny to see Brian Kelly fail there.

Someone made the quip that in the NIL era, the local car dealers in Tuscaloosa or Athens won't be able to buy national titles anymore. Now that paying players is legal, more schools can access all their alumni resources and compete with the SEC, OSU, UM, etc.  The rev share should make things even closer since it's capped.

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