WayneFleekHoosier Posted March 28, 2016 Posted March 28, 2016 Speaking of $. Jay Bilas was on ESPN radio and aggressively endorsing that NCAA should allow the free market to dictate recruiting. (Football/Basketball or any sport the school desires). He went as far as saying you could set a "salary cap" if needed. I am going back and forth with these thoughts. Thoughts? Quote
MadAboutIndiana Posted March 28, 2016 Posted March 28, 2016 Bilas is now a caricature of his former self. He's gone mad HoosierRich and Scooter D 2 Quote
mdn82 Posted March 28, 2016 Posted March 28, 2016 Some teams already play by these rules. It would even the playing fields. College sports is the only full time job that pays the boss and pays the workers less than minimum wage. I would want to play in the NBA quicker regardless or not I was ready due to this. HoosierAloha, WayneFleekHoosier, Alford Bailey and 1 other 4 Quote
Bittersince87 Posted March 28, 2016 Posted March 28, 2016 It has to be a cap all division one teams can afford . Otherwise talent will be front loaded and say goodbye to major upsets. Quote
Class of '66 Old Fart Posted March 28, 2016 Posted March 28, 2016 One drawback I see is that parity will disappear and basketball/football in particular will become much like women's basketball with a few really elite teams and then everyone else. Coaches won't be recruiting players as much as they'll be recruiting checkbooks. Sadly, there's already too much of this going on in college sports. mdn82 and WayneFleekHoosier 2 Quote
WayneFleekHoosier Posted March 28, 2016 Author Posted March 28, 2016 It has to be a cap all division one teams can afford . Otherwise talent will be front loaded and say goodbye to major upsets. It exists this way anyway. It wouldn't change. Under recruited players will blossom. Quote
WayneFleekHoosier Posted March 28, 2016 Author Posted March 28, 2016 Some teams already play by these rules. It would even the playing fields. College sports is the only full time job that pays the boss and pays the workers less than minimum wage. I would want to play in the NBA quicker regardless or not I was ready due to this. I agree. I think the top 5-10 recruiting teams or more operate this way. I think if the veil was removed from recruiting people would be shocked. When college coaches are making 3-10 mil a year and 1 mil recruiting budgets teams can and do afford star players. mdn82, Class of '66 Old Fart, HoosierAloha and 1 other 4 Quote
Scooter D Posted March 28, 2016 Posted March 28, 2016 Just need to do away with the one-and-done rule and make it more like the baseball rule and I think that some of the suspicious activity will be curbed. mdn82 and Happydaze 2 Quote
johnsoniu Posted March 28, 2016 Posted March 28, 2016 And a salary cap is going to prevent the schools that already play fast and loose with the rules from continuing to do so? They'll just use that as start up capital. The only thing I see this scenario changing is that the 95% of student athletes that will never make money playing sports, will be compensated somewhat above and beyond what is permitted now. Naturalhoosier, ElectricBoogaloo, HoosierAloha and 3 others 6 Quote
JSHoosier Posted March 28, 2016 Posted March 28, 2016 "I wonder what the luxury tax would be?"- pUKe johnsoniu, MadAboutIndiana, Naturalhoosier and 1 other 4 Quote
HoosierAloha Posted March 28, 2016 Posted March 28, 2016 I disagree that student athletes don't receive anything. They receive an education and a stipend. They have access to world class facilities and medical teams. They receive per diem when traveling. They receive meals. They get to travel. They do need to fix the current college/NBA and NCAA situation. There is nothing saying kids coming out of high school have to attend college. They can play overseas or in the d league. It just doesn't seem right to pay players to attend universities. Where does it end? Do we pay all sports across all universities? What is the salary cap? What is done when the puke's and Louisville's of the college basketball world give a signing bonus (like they do now)? I don't like it. WayneFleekHoosier, Bittersince87 and Hovadipo 3 Quote
WayneFleekHoosier Posted March 28, 2016 Author Posted March 28, 2016 I'd be curious what UK is willing to pay for a top recruit. How much did Wiggins take to get. That media circus paid off. Even the Simmons flop made big TV money. Quote
JSHoosier Posted March 28, 2016 Posted March 28, 2016 1 minute ago, HoosierAloha said: I disagree that student athletes don't receive anything. They receive an education and a stipend. They have access to world class facilities and medical teams. They do need to fix the current college/NBA and NCAA situation. There is nothing saying kids coming out of high school have to attend college. They can play overseas or in the d league. It just doesn't seem right to pay players to attend universities. Where does it end? Do we pay all sports across all universities? What is the salary cap? What is done when the puke's and Louisville's of the college basketball world give a signing bonus (like they do now)? I don't like it. I thought UL gave happy endings and (hopefully) free screenings? HoosierAloha and Class of '66 Old Fart 2 Quote
WayneFleekHoosier Posted March 28, 2016 Author Posted March 28, 2016 I disagree that student athletes don't receive anything. They receive an education and a stipend. They have access to world class facilities and medical teams. They receive per diem when traveling. They receive meals. They get to travel. They do need to fix the current college/NBA and NCAA situation. There is nothing saying kids coming out of high school have to attend college. They can play overseas or in the d league. It just doesn't seem right to pay players to attend universities. Where does it end? Do we pay all sports across all universities? What is the salary cap? What is done when the puke's and Louisville's of the college basketball world give a signing bonus (like they do now)? I don't like it. Bilas didn't advocate the salary cap. That was the radio host. Bilas said the Free Market would adjust itself across all sports. Like in MLB. Quote
X-Hoosier Posted March 28, 2016 Posted March 28, 2016 I think if we were going to pay players.. then what a player is paid is set by their recruiting ranking. And every school in D-1 has the same salary cap. So obviously smaller schools will use much less. Making it to where have to think hard on how they recruit the big guns and the less heralded guys. Sent from my SAMSUNG-SM-G900A using BtownBanners mobile app Quote
drock161 Posted March 28, 2016 Posted March 28, 2016 If you're going to be paying the student athletes, then don't call them student athletes, give them a free education, and they should separate the sport from the school. WayneFleekHoosier and HoosierAloha 2 Quote
X-Hoosier Posted March 28, 2016 Posted March 28, 2016 If you're going to be paying the student athletes, then don't call them student athletes, give them a free education, and they should separate the sport from the school. So like a league with teams sponsored by the schools? Sent from my SAMSUNG-SM-G900A using BtownBanners mobile app Quote
X-Hoosier Posted March 28, 2016 Posted March 28, 2016 If we gave it a free market without a cap... to just throw money at recruits... I think Harvard could rule the world. Sent from my SAMSUNG-SM-G900A using BtownBanners mobile app Quote
Feathery Posted March 28, 2016 Posted March 28, 2016 The kids are maiming the schools millions of dollars. Pay them a salary and let them go to school. Let's be honest a scholarship is a school paying itself from one account to another. id be interested in having the Pro sports teams form relationships with the college programs/conferences and create a true minor league for basketball that would cut out the shady agents and middle me. That direct players to certain programs. Quote
WayneFleekHoosier Posted March 28, 2016 Author Posted March 28, 2016 If we gave it a free market without a cap... to just throw money at recruits... I think Harvard could rule the world. Sent from my SAMSUNG-SM-G900A using BtownBanners mobile app That's not important to them or they would. Different priorities. Quote
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