Creaning or something. I dont' know.

[HoosierAloha 30,102]

Switch threads, rinse and repeat!

[Walking Boot of Doom 18,170]

Sigh.....I love posts like this.    Cherry picking is awfully easy.   Not that I need to, but I'll bite.  Even though this is not at all relevant to the point.

 

OG is from St. Louis.  3 1/2 hours from Bloomington; a drive.  And he played AAU ball with a midwestern team, and was local all the time.  Not what I'm talking about.  

 

Sheehey on his own was nothing we needed to go to Florida for.  We could have found plenty of kids to play the role he played on the good teams he was on.    Just some facts and data based on them : As a senior, he averaged just 11 points a game on a team that went 17-15, finished 8th in the Big Ten and missed the post season.  He had an assist/TO ratio less than 1:1 that season and for his career.  He didn't shoot 70% from the FT line.  He was a poor outside shooter, averaging < 33% from the 3 point line for his career.  He was made far better by his team mates, and any argument against that isn't being honest.   Loved Sheehey's intensity, but he was a role player on a fantastic team.  You think we had to go to Florida to find that?

 

Oladipo is an exception to the rule.  And every rule has exceptions.

 

I know I mentioned Robinson, but the real point in this particular discussion is big men. 

OG is from Jefferson City, MO. Almost a 5 hour 45 minute drive to Bloomington. I don't know how you missed that ;)

 

For real, why ever leave the state of Indiana. No point in recruiting nationally. How can you look at what Sheehey did for us, and say that you're certain that anyone else could have done it? That is naive. Maybe there were people who could have done more, maybe less. What we do know, is that Will Sheehey was the Sixth Man of the Year on a damn good team.

 

Just stop.

[Josh 13,238]

Sadly, he's nowhere near as good as Tijan Jobe.  I want to go back to the Hoosier Nation thread where some guys were trying to convince people he was a "steal" from down there.   There were lots of arguments back and forth.  I will never understand Jeremiah April.  Tim Priller.  Guy-Marc Michele.  Peter Jurkin.  Stanford Robinson.   I simply do not understand the need to go get warm bodies from all parts of the country.  We spent 10x what Wisconsin did on recruiting last year, and for the last several, much of it to get guys like this, and it makes no sense.

We have the best depth in the Big Ten this year. That's because of Crean's recruiting. No matter where they're from or where they were born, our depth is amazing and the reason we're so successful so far.

Wisconsin does not.

[HoosierAloha 30,102]

We have the best depth in the Big Ten this year. That's because of Crean's recruiting. No matter where they're from or where they were born, our depth is amazing and the reason we're so successful so far.

Wisconsin does not.

 

MSU has some incredible depth. 

[Josh 13,238]

Sigh.....I love posts like this.    Cherry picking is awfully easy.   Not that I need to, but I'll bite.  Even though this is not at all relevant to the point.
 
OG is from St. Louis.  3 1/2 hours from Bloomington; a drive.  And he played AAU ball with a midwestern team, and was local all the time.  Not what I'm talking about.  
 
Sheehey on his own was nothing we needed to go to Florida for.  We could have found plenty of kids to play the role he played on the good teams he was on.    Just some facts and data based on them : As a senior, he averaged just 11 points a game on a team that went 17-15, finished 8th in the Big Ten and missed the post season.  He had an assist/TO ratio less than 1:1 that season and for his career.  He didn't shoot 70% from the FT line.  He was a poor outside shooter, averaging < 33% from the 3 point line for his career.  He was made far better by his team mates, and any argument against that isn't being honest.   Loved Sheehey's intensity, but he was a role player on a fantastic team.  You think we had to go to Florida to find that?
 
Oladipo is an exception to the rule.  And every rule has exceptions.
 
I know I mentioned Robinson, but the real point in this particular discussion is big men.

You cherry pick more than anybody else to make your ridiculous "it matters where the kid was born" argument...using players who never even played for IU...yet have the audacity to call somebody else out on it?

Laughable.

[Josh 13,238]

MSU has some incredible depth.

Did they spend more than Wisconsin?

[HoosierAloha 30,102]

OG is from Jefferson City, MO. Almost a 5 hour 45 minute drive to Bloomington. I don't know how you missed that ;)

 

For real, why ever leave the state of Indiana. No point in recruiting nationally. How can you look at what Sheehey did for us, and say that you're certain that anyone else could have done it? That is naive. Maybe there were people who could have done more, maybe less. What we do know, is that Will Sheehey was the Sixth Man of the Year on a damn good team.

 

Just stop.

 

We had Etherington to replace Sheehey! 

[HoosierAloha 30,102]

Did they spend more than Wisconsin?

 

Yes?

[BtownBanner6 1,298]

Right. Guy-Marc Michele was going to be the one exception. Gosh, you're right. I don't know how I missed that. I don't know you and don't mean to offend you but the pollyanna ignorance of that thought process is just funny. I don't know what else to say. You're right. A kid who's been playing basketball for 3 years (some of it in Europe where the training isn't exactly what they'd get here) and went to Northern Idaho, putting up very pedestrian numbers while there was going to be THE one exception in a long line of failures. My goodness....naive doesn't begin to cover it, and you have been stalking and disagreeing with me long enough for me to just tell you I think this thought process is just that. Ignorant and naive.

Yes...I do know. Based on experience, I absolutely know. Without a doubt, I know. What's he done since, by the way? Did he blow up anywhere? No...he's averaged 8 points a game on a bad team in Greece that would get slaughtered by any team in the NBA D-League

Did you seriously base any judgement of a player based on Hoosier Hysteria?? My God.

Trust me man don't flatter yourself, I could care less about what you post, I don't try to find you and disagree, I just said he might have been a bust. I think your opinion of recruitment is insanely ignorant, all this you should never leave the state is stupid. You can't name me a school that focuses on their state and wins a title it doesn't happen. You get all upset when people bring up guys that were out of state that ended working well, but then you go and pick certain people that didn't. And to even mention Jobe and the others of that time is laughable at that point a warm body was accepted, no one wanted to come play for a program that won 6 games. Jesus Christ man get off you're high horse. The ONLY reason I said he shouldn't be put in with the others is because we don't know what could've been. And don't bring up the 3 years, Gorgui Dieng and Serge Ibaka both didn't start playing basketball till they were sixteen either.

[Trish 14,482]

Classic thread about Creaning


https://btownbanners.com/index.php?/topic/7328-Top-10-ways-you-know-that-you%27re-about-to-get-%22Creaned%22

[MartintheMopMan 7,765]

Thousands of Kids pay out of station tuition, calm down

And obviously Crean isn't going to tell Priller to get out, what do you think Crean told April?


Why do you think April turned down a full ride at a D1 school to play at some junior college?

Come on now.. This stuff gets around campus quickly. Especially if you hang out with the actual players like I have....

The players you hang around don't have very good info since he didn't play at a junior college.

 

Anyway, Jeremiah April. Here are the threads about him, a lot of them about why he isn't getting more minutes, including rumors (that I've heard elsewhere) about his not meeting practice expectations. Then, from the Transfers and Targets thread, a tweet from about two months ago when April visited Georgetown (and the link to the post there where I ask where April is because he is not playing at a junior college).

 

So, cool.

 

https://btownbanners.com/topic/5176-2014-c-jeremiah-april-to-iu

 

https://btownbanners.com/topic/7555-jeremiah-april-to-transfer

 

https://btownbanners.com/topic/6776-april

 

https://btownbanners.com/topic/6037-april-still-in-boot

 

https://btownbanners.com/topic/5880-jeremiah-april-in-boot

 

https://btownbanners.com/topic/9074-hoosier-transfers-and-recruiting-targets/page-27#entry250377

 

I have no idea...but this was 44 days ago, Gtwon, Nova.

 

Corey Evans @coreyevans_10
Per source, Indiana transfer big man Jeremiah April is also taking a visit to Georgetown today

 

[Bowhunter 3,129]

It may not be allowed to yank a player's scholarship for not living up to his side of the bargain, but you can sure suggest for that player to move on. Obviously coach can't say TIM You Are NOT Going To Get Any Playing Time Here, since he never plays anyway. Coaches do it every season and although it may not be Tim's fault for saying yes, it wasn't like any big name division 1 schools were beating down his door with offers. He received 2 good years at a great place. It's time!

[Trish 14,482]

The players you hang around don't have very good info since he didn't play at a junior college.

Anyway, Jeremiah April. Here are the threads about him, a lot of them about why he isn't getting more minutes, including rumors (that I've heard elsewhere) about his not meeting practice expectations. Then, from the Transfers and Targets thread, a tweet from about two months ago when April visited Georgetown (and the link to the post there where I ask where April is because he is not playing at a junior college).

So, cool.

https://btownbanners.com/topic/5176-2014-c-jeremiah-april-to-iu

https://btownbanners.com/topic/7555-jeremiah-april-to-transfer

https://btownbanners.com/topic/6776-april

https://btownbanners.com/topic/6037-april-still-in-boot

https://btownbanners.com/topic/5880-jeremiah-april-in-boot

https://btownbanners.com/topic/9074-hoosier-transfers-and-recruiting-targets/page-27#entry250377

Chill,


Last time I even heard his name he was transferring to a junior college. Did I follow him? No because I had no interest.

[Bittersince87 209]

You realize that Crean can't just revoke his scholarship, right? That's not at all how it works. I know things have a way of "working themselves out", but he can't just yank his free ride.

Also, you seriously think Priller is just going to hand over his scholly and pay out of state tuition?

Scholarships are dispersed on a year to year basis and not guaranteed for four years. coach Crean can allocate the funds towards his athletes any way he wants.

[hoosierpap 14,300]

The players you hang around don't have very good info since he didn't play at a junior college.

 

Anyway, Jeremiah April. Here are the threads about him, a lot of them about why he isn't getting more minutes, including rumors (that I've heard elsewhere) about his not meeting practice expectations. Then, from the Transfers and Targets thread, a tweet from about two months ago when April visited Georgetown (and the link to the post there where I ask where April is because he is not playing at a junior college).

 

So, cool.

 

https://btownbanners.com/topic/5176-2014-c-jeremiah-april-to-iu

 

https://btownbanners.com/topic/7555-jeremiah-april-to-transfer

 

https://btownbanners.com/topic/6776-april

 

https://btownbanners.com/topic/6037-april-still-in-boot

 

https://btownbanners.com/topic/5880-jeremiah-april-in-boot

 

https://btownbanners.com/topic/9074-hoosier-transfers-and-recruiting-targets/page-27#entry250377

Don't drag me into this, Martin lol. I'm about to read through this but seems like an avoidable topic based on the thread title and first few posts.

[MartintheMopMan 7,765]

Don't drag me into this, Martin lol. I'm about to read through this but seems like an avoidable topic based on the thread title and first few posts.

Yeah, I wouldn't worry yourself with it. It's mostly just a thread letting people work feelings out on their own. We just did all that great digging on April the other day and I would have hated for it to go to waste!

[Trish 14,482]

Just discovered this article with Matt Roth


http://sports.yahoo.com/blogs/ncaab-the-dagger/matt-roth-defends-tom-crean-decision-not-renew-143015529--ncaab.html

Brings back some memories for sure.

To my knowledge, we are okay on scholarships next year. Now if someone goes pro, we will have 1 available? Which is good in case Thon decides to commit next month.

Now there's like a .5 percent chance Thon commits to us. If no one goes pro.. and he commits.. We will be over signed by one correct?

I mean this in the nicest way, but I rather have a player who actually contributes on the floor than a player who Crean picks to come in with 2 seconds left in a game. Not everyone will agree with me but it's my thoughts. I respect Priller and more than likely he will be a Hoosier next season. Good for him. I know we shouldn't even be worrying about this yet and didn't figure people would get fired up about this "touchy" topic.

[JaybobHoosier 13,192]

Locking this thread.  This has no purpose other than to hope Crean takes Tim's scholarship away.  This kid works his butt off and wants to be a Hoosier.  It's not his fault he was offered a scholarship and accepted by the basketball team.  Leave the kid alone.

 

This was my decision to lock the thread, so feel free to message me to dispute.