(2018) SG Romeo Langford - INDIANA HOOSIERS

[Bailey7878]

Lol you seem mad about other people having a different opinion on things then you I guess. I can’t speak for everyone but for me of course landing the top in state is important (not going to get them all). And if we are talking about the top instate player in years where the staff actually had more then 8 months to recruit and build a relationship with the top in state player and IU is constantly missing out on them then of course that would be a big deal. Luckily on a free message board people can have different opinions on IU basketball and IU recruiting. If people want to lose their minds on missing out on a kid, have at it and if people don’t want to lose their minds on missing out on a kid, have at it


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Hardly mad more puzzled at the lack of urgency from some of you. It's like your ok doing a crean 3 year rebuild all over again.

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[woodenshoemanHoosierfan]

I’m cool with giving a coach at least 1 year of recruiting kids and building relationships with high school coaches and the players. I’m cool with seeing how we are as a team next year with or without a player that will be in the program one year. I’m cool with a new coach bringing in a top 20 recruiting class for the 2018 class on his first cycle. I’m cool with a lot of things.

You're making too much sense. Is that allowed

 

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[Uspshoosier]

Hardly mad more puzzled at the lack of urgency from some of you. It's like your ok doing a crean 3 year rebuild all over again.

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Probably as puzzled as I am that someone would expect a new coach to land 2 top 10 players in the same class with a 7 month relationship with those players. It’s like you expected CAM to walk in and start landing top 10 players right away. Just curious what benefit is it to me as a fan on a free message board to have more urgency? For me and I can’t speak for everyone on here I knew with the coaching change this wasn’t going to happen over night. Me giving CAM time to get his program and system in place has 0 to do with Crean and his time at IU. At the end of be day what does it matter if it takes 1,2,3,4 years to get this thing rolling. Obviously CAM had a vision and presented his plan to Glass and Glass liked what he heard and hired him for 7 years. Since I wasn’t in those meetings I don’t know for sure how long he told Glass this would take to “rebuild”. I have supported IU basketball through good years and bad and I will continue to support IU moving forward whether it’s good or bad. Will you?


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[MoyeNeeded]

Romeo turns a 3 year rebuild into a 1 year rebuild. After 30 years of patience some of us would likes a shorter rebuild this time. At yes losing him to vandy would be a massive blow.

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Hoosier Guy, I'm not going to pick on you here, but I would like to make an observation of sorts.

I think "inexcusable" might be the wrong word. We all know what CAM has to overcome as left by the previous staff. It's been noted on this forum several times over, so I'll skip that part.

Stating an unfavorable result in this recruiting battle as inexcusable implies the fault lies upon someone's shoulders. In this case, that would be the coaching staff. If RL goes to that school in Tennessee, is it really their fault? And are there really no excuses for him not coming here? The answer to both of those questions: No way. We can trace the basis for that answer directly to the previous staff.

Losing out to Vanderbilt would be awful, suck, stink, be terrible, be tough to swallow, and maybe even embarrassing, etc. But I don't feel it to be inexcusable within the new regime at IU Men's Basketball. The group of people that have no excuses for missing out on Romeo Langford are now former employees of Indiana University (and Louisville, lol).

Hang in there. Something good is coming in Bloomington. CAM has turned nothing into quite a bit of something, and he's only just had the chance to get started.


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How do you figure? Explain your reasoning please.

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[WayneFleekHoosier]

Sometimes selling hope in recruiting is better than the reality.

We were in a better spot with Romeo in the Summer than we are now with a struggling team.

The longer that struggling continues the harder recruiting gets. No matter how long u are on a guy.

I was worried about this exact thing and that is why i was hoping Archie would be lucky to have quick success because it would have been a marketing home run. These current struggles complicate recruiting.

That is also why I place added emphasis on success next year.


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[goonaha]

Just now, WayneFleekHoosier said:

Sometimes selling hope in recruiting is better than the reality.

We were in a better spot with Romeo in the Summer than we are now with a struggling team.

The longer that struggling continues the harder recruiting gets. No matter how long u are on a guy.

I was worried about this exact thing and that is why i was hoping Archie would be lucky to have quick success because it would have been a marketing home run. These current struggles complicate recruiting.

That is also why I place added emphasis on success next year.


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Vandy is struggling this season just as hard if not worse. 

[MoyeNeeded]

If we miss on Brooks we will be told we did not need him. I know how this goes.

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Sit down and have a Coke and a smile. Seems that the last month you have been the most Negative Nancy on this forum.

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[MoyeNeeded]

Lol you seem mad about other people having a different opinion on things then you I guess. I can’t speak for everyone but for me of course landing the top in state is important (not going to get them all). And if we are talking about the top instate player in years where the staff actually had more then 8 months to recruit and build a relationship with the top in state player and IU is constantly missing out on them then of course that would be a big deal. Luckily on a free message board people can have different opinions on IU basketball and IU recruiting. If people want to lose their minds on missing out on a kid, have at it and if people don’t want to lose their minds on missing out on a kid, have at it


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100%!!

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[WayneFleekHoosier]

Vandy is struggling this season just as hard if not worse. 

They are selling hope and 2 top 10 players.

That's my point. Sometimes selling hope is better. The longer you are on a recruit doesn't automatically make it better.


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[Bailey7878]

Probably as puzzled as I am that someone would expect a new coach to land 2 top 10 players in the same class with a 7 month relationship with those players. It’s like you expected CAM to walk in and start landing top 10 players right away. Just curious what benefit is it to me as a fan on a free message board to have more urgency? For me and I can’t speak for everyone on here I knew with the coaching change this wasn’t going to happen over night. Me giving CAM time to get his program and system in place has 0 to do with Crean and his time at IU. At the end of be day what does it matter if it takes 1,2,3,4 years to get this thing rolling. Obviously CAM had a vision and presented his plan to Glass and Glass liked what he heard and hired him for 7 years. Since I wasn’t in those meetings I don’t know for sure how long he told Glass this would take to “rebuild”. I have supported IU basketball through good years and bad and I will continue to support IU moving forward whether it’s good or bad. Will you?


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Sampson was hired in april. He had Eric Gordon signed in November. Why can't it be done ?Vandy has not been on romeo any longer then we have. You don't need a year to convince an in state kid to stay home. If that was the case why did we already get two instate kids? It must certainly can be done.

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[goonaha]

Just now, WayneFleekHoosier said:

They are selling hope and 2 top 10 players.

That's my point. Sometimes selling hope is better. The longer you are on a recruit doesn't automatically make it better.


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We can sell hope and legacy too.

[HooHooHoo22]

I could of swore bailey said he/she was done following recruiting close after losing garland. You sure do spend a lot of time in the Romeo thread


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[Bailey7878]

Sometimes selling hope in recruiting is better than the reality.

We were in a better spot with Romeo in the Summer than we are now with a struggling team.

The longer that struggling continues the harder recruiting gets. No matter how long u are on a guy.

I was worried about this exact thing and that is why i was hoping Archie would be lucky to have quick success because it would have been a marketing home run. These current struggles complicate recruiting.

That is also why I place added emphasis on success next year.


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So you basically think Romeo is gone.

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[WayneFleekHoosier]

So you basically think Romeo is gone.

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I personally do. I don't know anything special but my logic tells me he goes elsewhere.

A part of me is encouraged that we haven't targeted other similar players but that is my only reason to be positive. All the other signs point elsewhere.


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[Bailey7878]

I could of swore bailey said he/she was done following recruiting close after losing garland. You sure do spend a lot of time in the Romeo thread


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I go in bursts. One day I'm here and the next day I vanish.

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[Uspshoosier]

Sampson was hired in april. He had Eric Gordon signed in November. Why can't it be done ?Vandy has not been on romeo any longer then we have. You don't need a year to convince an in state kid to stay home. If that was the case why did we already get two instate kids? It must certainly can be done.

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Actually vandys new staff has been on Romeo for a little over a year longer than our new staff. I never said it couldn’t be done just for me and I can only speak for me I’m giving him more time. A little easier to convince 2 borderline top 100 in-state kids with your vision then it would be to convince a top 5 player in my opinion. Again this is my opinion which is different then yours. I’m not trying to get you to agree with me but just know that there are different views on the subject. No answer is right


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[8bucks]

You got it and it's a big deal. I think Eric Gordon was the last one. He is a 100% must get.

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This is one of the biggest reasons why Crean was fired. I am far from an Archie apologist but the reason we are so far behind on Romeo is Creans fault and he paid the price.

You cite as an critical example of Archie how Kelvin got Gordon to flip in a short amount of time. How did that work out for us? You really want to follow that example?

Is a must get recruit one where you have to risk so much that your program is in shambles months after that kid commits?




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[Bailey7878]

This is one of the biggest reasons why Crean was fired. I am far from an Archie apologist but the reason we are so far behind on Romeo is Creans fault and he paid the price.

You cite as an critical example of Archie how Kelvin got Gordon to flip in a short amount of time. How did that work out for us? You really want to follow that example?

Is a must get recruit one where you have to risk so much that your program is in shambles months after that kid commits?




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I figured you'd bring that up. Nothing about Eric Gordon was shady. It worked out fine. It's the other suspect players he recruited. Not Gordon. Gordon was a good student.

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[Bailey7878]

This is one of the biggest reasons why Crean was fired. I am far from an Archie apologist but the reason we are so far behind on Romeo is Creans fault and he paid the price.

You cite as an critical example of Archie how Kelvin got Gordon to flip in a short amount of time. How did that work out for us? You really want to follow that example?

Is a must get recruit one where you have to risk so much that your program is in shambles months after that kid commits?




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How did Eric Gordon put us in shambles? What was so shady about him?

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[8bucks]

How did Eric Gordon put us in shambles? What was so shady about him?

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I have no idea if his recruitment was clean or not but the guy you cite as one who can build a quick relationship wrecked the program.

Why keep whining about Romeo? We fell far behind in his recruitment and as a result we fired the coach. Archie is playing catch and doing OK. Will he get him, I have no idea but losing him is more on Crean than on Archie.

I just don't get why you keep this up? Do you want to get rid of Archie if he misses on Romeo?








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