(2018) SG Romeo Langford - INDIANA HOOSIERS

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He didn’t bring them into his recruitment they were one of his first offers when Stallings was still the coach. Vandy has been involved since the beginning


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1 hour ago, HoosierMatty said:

To me going to Vanderbilt makes zero sense if you are one and done. 3 five star guys who are all freshman can't carry you to a national championship. I don't know much about the rest of their class but it seems unlikely. The whole thing seems fishy to me. 

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Agree. They'll be competitive with three guys of that caliber, but IMO they won't be a title contender or a real national threat. Things could change based on other additions, etc., but if you just add those 3 guys to their existing roster (minus seniors leaving), they're going to struggle. I think they'll be closer to LSU the Ben Simmons year (though not quite as bad) than anything Duke or UK has done with their one and done factories. 

The other aspect is that it's a huge challenge to have that much young talent on one team. Coach K and Cal have tons of experience with managing these ego's, etc. Their systems and programs are set-up to manage the one and dones and what comes with that, and even with them their best teams were the ones that had some senior leadership and veterans, which Vandy won't have. If they land all three, Drew is going to have his hands full managing this, and at a school that really isn't set-up for it or has any experience with this type of situation. They could be really good, but I think it could also be just as likely that it goes the other way. 

I'm sure the response will be that Archie doesn't have experience with this either. But, it's a lot different having one of those guys as opposed to three, and while Archie doesn't, IU does. IU as a program/school has had guys of this caliber and there is support staff around that has done this before. 

[Demo 19,599]

Not sure this really offers much insight, but it was an interesting conversation. So fwiw:

Ran into a semi-friend who has been part of the Bradley Beal Elite/St Louis Hawks coaching program for years. Talked some about Garland. He thinks Garland will always be a bit of a tease because, while gifted,  he's not a tough or super competitive kid  Said the teams that knocked him on his @$$ the first couple of times he went to the rim didn't have to worry about doing it again because he'd stop coming. Anyway,  I mentioned the situation with Shittu and RL and that there is chatter in IU circles that Garland is pulling this together by force of personality. Terry literally laughed out loud. His almost exact words, "Damn, that's funny. Gonna have to tell some people that one." Said that he's a good kid, but very much one of the boys. Oh, and the BBE coaches REALLY don't like Winston.

2 things: 1) Really glad we got Phinisee, who strikes me as both a tough kid and a leader. 2) I'm not going to lose one moment's sleep over whether we get 6 months of Langford.

   

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2 minutes ago, Demo said:

Not sure this really offers much insight, but it was an interesting conversation. So fwiw:

Ran into a semi-friend who has been part of the Bradley Beal Elite/St Louis Hawks coaching program for years. Talked some about Garland. He thinks Garland will always be a bit of a tease because, while gifted,  he's not a tough or super competitive kid  Said the teams that knocked him on his @$$ the first couple of times he went to the rim didn't have to worry about doing it again because he'd stop coming. Anyway,  I mentioned the situation with Shittu and RL and that there is chatter in IU circles that Garland is pulling this together by force of personality. Terry literally laughed out loud. His almost exact words, "Damn, that's funny. Gonna have to tell some people that one." Said that he's a good kid, but very much one of the boys. Oh, and the BBE coaches REALLY don't like Winston.

2 things: 1) Really glad we got Phinisee, who strikes me as both a tough kid and a leader. 2) I'm not going to lose one moment's sleep over whether we get 6 months of Langford.

   

This take jives well with Cole Anthony lighting him up in their EYBL matchup. The BBE coaches not liking Winston jives well with how Winston dragged Rabjohns along too. 

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To me going to Vanderbilt makes zero sense if you are one and done. 3 five star guys who are all freshman can't carry you to a national championship. I don't know much about the rest of their class but it seems unlikely. The whole thing seems fishy to me. But fact Romeo has continuously gone out of his way both to bring up Vanderbilt and to bring them into his recruitment seems like he favors them over IU.

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It's simple really he would get to play in front of 8000 fans on a raised floor in yellow jerseys at a baseball school. The only questuon is what does drew do after the big three bolt for the nba? Leave for another school before vandy gets hit with multi year sanctions? Usually how it works.

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Do you have that response copied and ready for pasting? Because you have to explain this almost daily it seems. You or someone else anyhow.

 

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I should just post this article for October 2015 every time. Lol

http://www.insidethehall.com/2015/10/29/romeo-langford-staying-humble-amidst-the-hype/

It still won’t matter people will still say the family brought them in late

 

 

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[HoosierMatty 448]

Admittedly Drew has to be more appealing than Kevin Stallings as a coach. But the school is not a destination school for 5 star basketball players. I have no doubt Vanderbilt was a non factor with Stallings. It should still be with Drew. I'm sorry how does he move the needle that much. I just have a tough time wrapping my mind around it without the reasons behind it being shady.

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[Bailey7878 2,506]

Admittedly Drew has to be more appealing than Kevin Stallings as a coach. But the school is not a destination school for 5 star basketball players. I have no doubt Vanderbilt was a non factor with Stallings. It should still be with Drew. I'm sorry how does he move the needle that much. I just have a tough time wrapping my mind around it without the reasons behind it being shady.

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All you need to know is a non bball school has never landed three top 10 recruits in one year. It will come out eventually but drew will probably be gone by then.

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Did this really deserve an article? Still not buying he goes there. So glad they have started off poorly. 

https://247sports.com/college/vanderbilt/Bolt/Vanderbilt-trending-in-Crystal-Ball-for-Romeo-Langford-111244567

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All you need to know is a non bball school has never landed three top 10 recruits in one year. It will come out eventually but drew will probably be gone by then.

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What kind of recruits did he bring to Valpo? Did he ever get anyone to the NBA? He may have played in the NBA but he was never a star. I'm not even saying he's a bad coach. Clearly he had a great record at Valpo but the competition was way different. When can you ever remember a coach going from a low tier conference to a top tier football conference. And the school he goes to is not even a basketball school. Then he declares he wants to make them a final four team. Has a barely 500 first season yet is able to draw in 3 five stars in his second year of recruiting. Am I insane to be in disbelief of this?

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12 minutes ago, Bailey7878 said:

All you need to know is a non bball school has never landed three top 10 recruits in one year. It will come out eventually but drew will probably be gone by then.

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I'll give them Garland since he was local. But Shittu was a little puzzling. If they get RL though I really think it's a case where something is going on. I just can't see how Vandy would be that attractive to a one and done type player with that lack of fanbase and atmosphere. I just don't buy the fact that he would choose Vandy over the blue bloods b/c he wants to play that badlly with DG. 

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41 minutes ago, HoosierMatty said:

Admittedly Drew has to be more appealing than Kevin Stallings as a coach. But the school is not a destination school for 5 star basketball players. I have no doubt Vanderbilt was a non factor with Stallings. It should still be with Drew. I'm sorry how does he move the needle that much. I just have a tough time wrapping my mind around it without the reasons behind it being shady.

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I'm with you, hard for me to see this as clean. Just seems so blatant.  But the other part I struggle with is this: wouldn't a shady recruitment fly in the face of absolutely everything we're told about the Langford's? The folks with local knowledge unanimously extoll the virtues of these people. Have they fooled everyone? Maybe.  I hope it's friendship.

[HoosierMatty 448]

I'm with you, hard for me to see this as clean. Just seems so blatant.  But the other part I struggle with is this: wouldn't a shady recruitment fly in the face of absolutely everything we're told about the Langford's? The folks with local knowledge unanimously extoll the virtues of these people. Have they fooled everyone? Maybe.  I hope it's friendship.

I don't want to drag this kid or his family through the mud. Me wondering the circumstances may come off that way. I hope it's like you said it's over friendship. It's just very unusual to say the least. I hope whatever decision he makes it's the best decision for him and I wish him luck. I just don't have much confidence we are getting him. I never did from the beginning. CAM brought it up quite a bit. But now I'm back to about where I started and just very confused about how this has played out.

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I'll give them Garland since he was local. But Shittu was a little puzzling. If they get RL though I really think it's a case where something is going on. I just can't see how Vandy would be that attractive to a one and done type player with that lack of fanbase and atmosphere. I just don't buy the fact that he would choose Vandy over the blue bloods b/c he wants to play that badlly with DG. 

Well shittu was probably going to cheating Arizona before so I would not be surprised if the fbi is not tracking that recruitment closely. The ncaa is clueless about anything but the fbi might follow a red flag at this point. I'm sure landing 3 top 10 recruits out of nowhere would also attract their attention. If vandy is not clean they are playing with fire

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I dont think it’s worthwhile to assume Vandy is out here paying people to come there. It’s a good school and has a rising coaching staff. We don’t know what is important to these kids.

Recruiting is sales. Sometimes a competitor has a better pitch and fit for the consumer in their mind. Doesn’t mean you attack the consumer or the competition. We have a shot at Romeo and I believe in our Staff. We get him and I’m happy, we don’t and I’m still extremely happy with our first year staffs class.


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1 minute ago, Me So Hornsby said:

I dont think it’s worthwhile to assume Vandy is out here paying people to come there. It’s a good school and has a rising coaching staff. We don’t know what is important to these kids.

Recruiting is sales. Sometimes a competitor has a better pitch and fit for the consumer in their mind. Doesn’t mean you attack the consumer or the competition. We have a shot at Romeo and I believe in our Staff. We get him and I’m happy, we don’t and I’m still extremely happy with our first year staffs class.


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Not saying it's not possible but when has a good school mattered to a one and done player? It just seems to be on the rare side of things. 

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I dont think it’s worthwhile to assume Vandy is out here paying people to come there. It’s a good school and has a rising coaching staff. We don’t know what is important to these kids.

Recruiting is sales. Sometimes a competitor has a better pitch and fit for the consumer in their mind. Doesn’t mean you attack the consumer or the competition. We have a shot at Romeo and I believe in our Staff. We get him and I’m happy, we don’t and I’m still extremely happy with our first year staffs class.


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Well drew would be making history then as the world's greatest salesman. It would be like Iowa landing three top 10 recruits. Of course people will be suspicious.

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Not saying it's not possible but when has a good school mattered to a one and done player? It just seems to be on the rare side of things. 

It may not be a huge deal or the deciding factor but I’m sure academics have mattered to plenty of One and done kids before. I more meant that it’s not like Romeo is considering East Tennessee State. Vandy is a power five school not a community college without indoor plumbing.


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3 minutes ago, Bailey7878 said:

 

Well drew would be making history then as the world's greatest salesman. It would be like Iowa landing three top 10 recruits. 
 

 

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1 minute ago, TXHoosierDaddy said:

Not saying it's not possible but when has a good school mattered to a one and done player? It just seems to be on the rare side of things. 

I don't even think "rare" is the word, it's unprecedented. I'm not sure 3 top 10 recruits to a program like Vandy has ever happened, at least not in the modern era. 

I really hate being the "we lost a recruit, the other school must be cheating" guy. It's really not my style, but if Drew pulls this off, it's literally one of, if the the, best recruiting coups ever. And again, it's not like he got hired at UCLA, this is Vanderbilt.