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Then go have lunch with one of Pitino's best friends who happens to hold a very highly esteemed position within the IU Foundation. I don't "have" to do anything. You can doubt if you'd like to, but there are plenty of people who can substantiate that, and while I don't know everybody or everything, I do know that to be 100% factually accurate. You're not going to find it anywhere publicly. What,....you think Pitino called the Indianapolis Star??

You're the one making these claims to know how everyone thinks and IU administrations thoughts. I just feel you should back those claims by more then I know a guy who knows a guy.

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You're the one making these claims to know how everyone thinks and IU administrations thoughts. I just feel you should back those claims by more then I know a guy who knows a guy.

It's not a "claim."   This is exactly why these damned boards are so maddening.   Nobody knows anything, and everybody wants to know everything.   You feel I should out a legitimate source (and friend) because some guy on a chat board doubts what I said?   Doesn't work that way.  I'm not sure now why I said anything, and I'm very sorry I did but I have no history of making things up, and I'm not doing so now.  What I said happened and why it happened is exactly what I meant.  The IU admin got what they wanted.  They had plenty of chances to hire big names, Pitino included, and elected not to.  That happened.  I don't care if you feel like you need every answer defined for you so you believe it.   Especially if you're going to publicly call BS for your own special interests. I know what I know.  I don't make "claims" about things to get attention here.  Don't need that.  If I did, I'd be a newspaper reporter.  You don't know what you don't know, and you're not going to find it with a Google search.   You can leave it alone now, or you can keep pressing to some end.  What that end is, I don't know.

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You're the one making these claims to know how everyone thinks and IU administrations thoughts. I just feel you should back those claims by more then I know a guy who knows a guy.


I believe the guy to be honest. Hasn't Dakich said on multiple occasions over the years that this is what the IU Admin was trying to do?? What does Dakich have to gain from making that up? And also, why would Pitino go to the paper about this? I mean the guy got turned down so I'm sure it hurt his ego a little bit.

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It's not a "claim." This is exactly why these damned boards are so maddening. Nobody knows anything, and everybody wants to know everything. You feel I should out a legitimate source (and friend) because some guy on a chat board doubts what I said? Doesn't work that way. I'm not sure now why I said anything, and I'm very sorry I did but I have no history of making things up, and I'm not doing so now. What I said happened and why it happened is exactly what I meant. The IU admin got what they wanted. They had plenty of chances to hire big names, Pitino included, and elected not to. That happened. I don't care if you feel like you need every answer defined for you so you believe it. Especially if you're going to publicly call BS for your own special interests. I know what I know. I don't make "claims" about things to get attention here. Don't need that. If I did, I'd be a newspaper reporter. You don't know what you don't know, and you're not going to find it with a Google search. You can leave it alone now, or you can keep pressing to some end. What that end is, I don't know.

If that is the case why would they consider firing Crean?

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If that is the case why would they consider firing Crean?

I don't know what he knows and have no idea the validity... although I don't doubt him.

 

But what makes you think the administration is considering firing Crean? Maybe they aren't at all... maybe this IS exactly what they want... again I don't know if that is true, but I don't know that it isn't either.

 

Also at some point it will become in their best interest to fire him when the fans get too loud and the money stops flowing... but the big key will be who they hire next... Is it a BIG name or is it another Crean?

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I don't know what he knows and have no idea the validity... although I don't doubt him.

But what makes you think the administration is considering firing Crean? Maybe they aren't at all... maybe this IS exactly what they want... again I don't know if that is true, but I don't know that it isn't either.

Also at some point it will become in their best interest to fire him when the fans get too loud and the money stops flowing... but the big key will be who they hire next... Is it a BIG name or is it another Crean?

Personally I'd feel incredibly cheated if they were doing this whole mediocrity thing on purpose.

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I don't know what he knows and have no idea the validity... although I don't doubt him.

But what makes you think the administration is considering firing Crean? Maybe they aren't at all... maybe this IS exactly what they want... again I don't know if that is true, but I don't know that it isn't either.

Also at some point it will become in their best interest to fire him when the fans get too loud and the money stops flowing... but the big key will be who they hire next... Is it a BIG name or is it another Crean?

It also sounds like a massive conspiracy theory. Maybe they pushed Miller out of the women's HC spot because they saw they'd be good eventually under him. Maybe they are doing this in hopes that football rises above it. CONSPIRACY.

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But seriously... that'd be like the biggest sports news of all time... if someone actually proved that the administration was guilty of "win shaving"... I don't think I could ever support IU again. Talk about the most epic thing to happen in college sports. A whole administration trying to keep sports mediocre so that no one will care about them. That'd be HUGE when you think about. Talk about some people getting fired... lol. What a crazy scenario to think about.

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If that is the case why would they consider firing Crean?

The administration has changed.   Different president, different board of trustees, different AD, different people pulling the strings.   I don't have any idea what the climate would be, now.  I have nothing to gain by making anything up.  Just a random factoid I happen to know within a huge picture.  Nothing more or less.

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Personally I'd feel incredibly cheated if they were doing this whole mediocrity thing on purpose.

Me too.... I am in no way saying I think they are. I am just saying that I don't KNOW that they are not.

 

I really don't buy that they want mediocrity, however I do buy that they may want mediocrity over some other options... Examples:) God Like Coach, "too" much money being spent, or something like that?

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Me too.... I am in no way saying I think they are. I am just saying that I don't KNOW that they are not.

I really don't buy that they want mediocrity, however I do buy that they may want mediocrity over some other options... Examples:) God Like Coach, "too" much money being spent, or something like that?

Money isn't a problem when you're good at sports. You can have great sports and academics. You don't have to be Louisville. Look at Stanford, USC, Duke, Cal.. several Pac-12 schools actually.

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I believe the guy to be honest. Hasn't Dakich said on multiple occasions over the years that this is what the IU Admin was trying to do?? What does Dakich have to gain from making that up? And also, why would Pitino go to the paper about this? I mean the guy got turned down so I'm sure it hurt his ego a little bit.

I guess I just have a hard time believing Pitino would want the job over UofL. Especially after the mess that was left from Sampson, IU was in the Purdue Dwelling and Pitino was getting UofL to national prominence, so what makes IU the more appealing job?

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It's not a "claim."   This is exactly why these damned boards are so maddening.   Nobody knows anything, and everybody wants to know everything.   You feel I should out a legitimate source (and friend) because some guy on a chat board doubts what I said?   Doesn't work that way.  I'm not sure now why I said anything, and I'm very sorry I did but I have no history of making things up, and I'm not doing so now.  What I said happened and why it happened is exactly what I meant.  The IU admin got what they wanted.  They had plenty of chances to hire big names, Pitino included, and elected not to.  That happened.  I don't care if you feel like you need every answer defined for you so you believe it.   Especially if you're going to publicly call BS for your own special interests. I know what I know.  I don't make "claims" about things to get attention here.  Don't need that.  If I did, I'd be a newspaper reporter.  You don't know what you don't know, and you're not going to find it with a Google search.   You can leave it alone now, or you can keep pressing to some end.  What that end is, I don't know.

Preach haha. No need to get upset though, you know what you know. People can make their judgments from there...no skin off my back

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