(2019) SF Keion Brooks Jr. to Kentucky

[Brass Cannon]

Phinisee, Hunter, Brooks, Smith and Davis 

With Al off the bench as a 6th man. 

Will need Moore or Forrester able to be a legit back up to Davis and that’s a team with Talent, Depth and versatility. Should be well poised for 2021

[mamasa]

52 minutes ago, hoosierpap said:

I wouldn't worry so much about that. Score one for the good guys soon enough

The man, the myth, the legend!  This post has reassured me greatly

[Class of '66 Old Fart]

52 minutes ago, hoosierpap said:

I wouldn't worry so much about that. Score one for the good guys soon enough

Ah, the refreshing voice of reason and sanity in the wilderness and cacophony that is btb.

[ray]

11 hours ago, Bailey7878 said:

This is an opinion message board. You can censor my I guess. Go for it.

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I wasn't censoring anyone.  It was a running joke, and that joke had nothing to do with your comment other than you made the comment that sent this thread to 100 pages.

[ElectricBoogaloo]

1 hour ago, Brass Cannon said:

Phinisee, Hunter, Brooks, Smith and Davis 

With Al off the bench as a 6th man. 

Will need Moore or Forrester able to be a legit back up to Davis and that’s a team with Talent, Depth and versatility. Should be well poised for 2021

That starting lineup needs another ball handler. I haven't seen their ball handling skills in the BIG yet but I doubt they're up to the task. My guess is Al in the starting lineup and maybe Smith as the 6th man? 

[Stuhoo]

9 minutes ago, ElectricBoogaloo said:

That starting lineup needs another ball handler. I haven't seen their ball handling skills in the BIG yet but I doubt they're up to the task. My guess is Al in the starting lineup and maybe Smith as the 6th man? 

 

A healthy Justin Smith will not be beaten out of a starting slot while he's at IU. He defends too well, and his offense will continue to gradually progress. Will Al be a starter beyond this year? Yup; that's likely too.

I have high hopes for Jerome Hunter, but until I see him play in an actual game, it is a bit premature to project him as a likely starter.

 

[Brass Cannon]

1 hour ago, ElectricBoogaloo said:

That starting lineup needs another ball handler. I haven't seen their ball handling skills in the BIG yet but I doubt they're up to the task. My guess is Al in the starting lineup and maybe Smith as the 6th man? 

Hunter has decent enough ball handling that he played point in high school sometimes. Should be able to be serviceable enough

[Hoosier Guy]

Some of you guys worry so much

[HoosierAloha]

Phinisee, Hunter, Brooks, Smith and Davis 
With Al off the bench as a 6th man. 
Will need Moore or Forrester able to be a legit back up to Davis and that’s a team with Talent, Depth and versatility. Should be well poised for 2021

Give me Phinisee, Durham, Brooks, Smith, and Jackson-Davis starting with Green, Hunter, Forrester/Moore, and Davis as depth. Anderson, Moore, and Franklin in limited minutes.


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[Brass Cannon]

2 minutes ago, HoosierAloha said:

Give me Phinisee, Durham, Brooks, Smith, and Jackson-Davis starting with Green, Hunter, Forrester/Moore, and Davis as depth. Anderson, Moore, and Franklin in limited minutes.


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I was thinking 2020-2021. Green will be gone unless he gets hurt.  Did forget about Anderson though. 

But either 

Hunter or Durham, Forrester and Anderson  will be a very solid core off the bench that year. 

[Jeff_Boy_Ardee]

Some of you guys worry so much

Can you just get this over with for us and please tell us who we’re getting committed for the next couple years?


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[HoosierSadaseci]

After tonight's performance you have to wonder if this is why he's been waiting.

[HoosierAloha]

After tonight's performance you have to wonder if this is why he's been waiting.

Haha, yes he’s waiting to commit because we got beat by Nebraska at home while playing terrible. Romeo was waiting to see if we could beat Rutgers in the BTT before he committed.


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[HoosierSadaseci]

13 minutes ago, HoosierAloha said:

Haha, yes he’s waiting to commit because we got beat by Nebraska at home while playing terrible. Romeo was waiting to see if we could beat Rutgers in the BTT before he committed.


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Not what I meant at all, maybe he's wanting to see more of Archie's coaching, tonight's display was unimpressive. What from Archie's coaching lately has you sold? 

[Brass Cannon]

I’m really what people see. 

Defensive system is pretty good but seems afraid to hold people accountable when they phone it in. 

Offense is completely messed. Your 2 best players have to fight to be involved in the offense. 

[ebridges24]

1 hour ago, HoosierSadaseci said:

After tonight's performance you have to wonder if this is why he's been waiting.

Hopefully to see how bad we need him

[HoosierAloha]

Not what I meant at all, maybe he's wanting to see more of Archie's coaching, tonight's display was unimpressive. What from Archie's coaching lately has you sold? 

Be patient, I know I know people said this with Crean.

Story time...
I had a boss who was “cool” with all who worked for him. He held our nose to the grindstone but did so much for us that we were willing to work hard and reap the rewards. He left and the next boss was detached and couldn’t care less what we did. It was awesome for the people that abused it because the boss didn’t like confrontation. He cycled out and we got a new boss that kicked our backside into high gear whether we liked it or not. A good friend and roommate of mine wanted to kill the dude. We got the shop humming along but paid for it with extra time and “mandatory fun.” Life was terrible for some and bad for everyone else and then... the “big picture” was revealed. People went from hating to go into work to showing up early so they could complete their work and training in order to get off early to go to the beach. People started asking when we were going to have our “mandatory fun.” People started liking each other again. The shop was getting things done and people were having more time off. Crazy concept.

The point is there is still a culture shift going on. When I see the camera move to Archie I see him puzzled as to why people are still doing stupid stuff. I don’t think that was the same at Dayton. Why? Because they knew the standard and lived up to it without having to be carried along. It takes time. It sucks. Nobody is happy. However, there’s a light at the end of the tunnel. That light starts with recruiting better players that are brought into a system with upperclassmen that set that standard. There are better days ahead and I believe Archie will be here for a long time and many here will be happy he was hired.

Getting Jackson-Davis and Brooks will help but that won’t cure all ills. Smith, Phinisee, Durham, and Green will need to take on leadership roles to take a step forward next season.


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[Brass Cannon]

45 minutes ago, HoosierAloha said:

Be patient, I know I know people said this with Crean.

Story time...
I had a boss who was “cool” with all who worked for him. He held our nose to the grindstone but did so much for us that we were willing to work hard and reap the rewards. He left and the next boss was detached and couldn’t care less what we did. It was awesome for the people that abused it because the boss didn’t like confrontation. He cycled out and we got a new boss that kicked our backside into high gear whether we liked it or not. A good friend and roommate of mine wanted to kill the dude. We got the shop humming along but paid for it with extra time and “mandatory fun.” Life was terrible for some and bad for everyone else and then... the “big picture” was revealed. People went from hating to go into work to showing up early so they could complete their work and training in order to get off early to go to the beach. People started asking when we were going to have our “mandatory fun.” People started liking each other again. The shop was getting things done and people were having more time off. Crazy concept.

The point is there is still a culture shift going on. When I see the camera move to Archie I see him puzzled as to why people are still doing stupid stuff. I don’t think that was the same at Dayton. Why? Because they knew the standard and lived up to it without having to be carried along. It takes time. It sucks. Nobody is happy. However, there’s a light at the end of the tunnel. That light starts with recruiting better players that are brought into a system with upperclassmen that set that standard. There are better days ahead and I believe Archie will be here for a long time and many here will be happy he was hired.

Getting Jackson-Davis and Brooks will help but that won’t cure all ills. Smith, Phinisee, Durham, and Green will need to take on leadership roles to take a step forward next season.


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Agreed overall but I think Archie needs to get better too. I get the being loyal to your guys but Fitz is giving us nothing and he’s not even an investment in the future. Damezi, Moore or Forrester should be getting his minutes because A) They couldn’t do worse B) They may learn something useful in the coming years 

Archie is going to have to find a way to drag this team to the tourney. And same with next year. And that’s going to require players to develop. Al was the only person I think that is noticeably and consistently better. That can’t be, 1 out of 3 freshman making a leap won’t do it. 

[Walking Boot of Doom]

Smith has demonstrated real growth even within this season. He’s just not a stat stuffer or scorer so it’s not as eye catching.


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[Walking Boot of Doom]

Archie does have plenty of room (and time) for growth as a coach, just as any young promising coach does.


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