B10 Basketball Recruiting Thread

[Uspshoosier]

2019 prospect Terrance Shannon Jr. has committed to DePaul
Tough week for the Illini fans. Shannon was arguably their top prospect that they actually had a chance to land


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[woodenshoemanHoosierfan]

2019 prospect Terrance Shannon Jr. has committed to DePaul
Tough week for the Illini fans. Shannon was arguably their top prospect that they actually had a chance to land


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If I recall Shannon played for Chicago Fire , the same team Ayo played for. I also recall Illinois pulling the offer from Thalen Horten Tucker the day he was going to commit because Ayo's camp said they would probably lose Ayo's commitment. Apparently there was a feud between the Ayo and THT camps. The coaching staff caved to the Ayo camp in the Hope's of landing more Fire players. I know this is only one commitment, but I dont think it will work out.

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[Brass Cannon]

Underwood is running out of time to change momentum. 

[Demo]

2 hours ago, Hardwood83 said:

Let's hope they give him about four more years to (not) figure it out!  

Let the dumpster fire burn itself out, I say. 

I’m the other way. I hope the Admin/alumni get antsy and pull the trigger ASAP. Definitely a mess at the moment. But the guy is a flat out elite bench coach and the longer they give him,  the more likely he is to become a problem for us. Thought he outcoached Archie in both games last year, and I don’t mean that as criticism of Archie. I just think Underwood is great strategically and his teams really compete.

[Stuhoo]

1 hour ago, Demo said:

I’m the other way. I hope the Admin/alumni get antsy and pull the trigger ASAP. Definitely a mess at the moment. But the guy is a flat out elite bench coach and the longer they give him,  the more likely he is to become a problem for us. Thought he outcoached Archie in both games last year, and I don’t mean that as criticism of Archie. I just think Underwood is great strategically and his teams really compete.

 

Seems to me that Underwood is a very effective in-game coach and motivator, but that the word has gotten out among high-level players that he is NOT a guy that kids want to play for.

In a low talent, mid-level conference scenario that can be very effective; every school is rolling the dice on underrecruited players in those conferences.

In the B1G? His 300+ ranked big men will likely get handled by most teams, and that will only exacerbate the tension and Underwood’s jerkiness.

 

[mdn82]

To me he is Tom Crean. Recruits wtf are we doing recruits and can motivate people. Also can have a good game plan against certain coaches. Kind of like Crean against Beilein.


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[WayneFleekHoosier]

 
Seems to me that Underwood is a very effective in-game coach and motivator, but that the word has gotten out among high-level players that he is NOT a guy that kids want to play for.
In a low talent, mid-level conference scenario that can be very effective; every school is rolling the dice on underrecruited players in those conferences.
In the B1G? His 300+ ranked big men will likely get handled by most teams, and that will only exacerbate the tension and Underwood’s jerkiness.
 

He was getting talent at his previous gig. And Dosunmu is an incredible talent. Hopefully whatever the word is going around that is plaguing him continues to do so. He must be ruffling some feathers though because he seems to be struggling recruiting and holding talent as of late.


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[WayneFleekHoosier]

He was getting talent at his previous gig. And Dosunmu is an incredible talent. Hopefully whatever the word is going around that is plaguing him continues to do so. He must be ruffling some feathers though because he seems to be struggling recruiting and holding talent as of late.


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My mistake, he walked into that talent at OSU. Was incredible at SFA. Does sound a little like Crean after all, but a better coach, lesser recruiter. I was thinking he gathered up that OSU talent.


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[Stuhoo]

7 minutes ago, WayneFleekHoosier said:

My mistake, he walked into that talent at OSU. Was incredible at SFA. Does sound a little like Crean after all, but a better coach, lesser recruiter. I was thinking he gathered up that OSU talent.


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 I get the feeling  that Crean is a way way nicer guy. 

[woodenshoemanHoosierfan]

He was getting talent at his previous gig. And Dosunmu is an incredible talent. Hopefully whatever the word is going around that is plaguing him continues to do so. He must be ruffling some feathers though because he seems to be struggling recruiting and holding talent as of late.


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I really feel it was the Ayo/THT situation.

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[WayneFleekHoosier]

 I get the feeling  that Crean is a way way nicer guy. 

I tend to agree with this. The days of “Generals” is going away but there are so many examples of this over the top, iron sharpens iron coaching philosophy that seems to work on a certain level. In football and basketball. (I don’t want to get into a “this generation is soft” debate. Because I think both sides of this argument have valid points.

I think Archie feels like he has a great balance of being a player coach but also a guy that demands his coaching expectations. It’s a big reason why I think Archie can do big things.


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[HoosierAloha]

I tend to agree with this. The days of “Generals” is going away but there are so many examples of this over the top, iron sharpens iron coaching philosophy that seems to work on a certain level. In football and basketball. (I don’t want to get into a “this generation is soft” debate. Because I think both sides of this argument have valid points.

I think Archie feels like he has a great balance of being a player coach but also a guy that demands his coaching expectations. It’s a big reason why I think Archie can do big things.


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Not speaking at you Fleek but it's a general leadership quality. If I knew my supervisor/teammates had my back I'd do whatever needed to be done for the good of all involved. There's a balance between caring enough to push someone to that next level and just being a Richard. It sounds like he might be more of the Richard.


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[Class of '66 Old Fart]

31 minutes ago, HoosierAloha said:

 There's a balance between caring enough to push someone to that next level and just being a Richard. It sounds like he might be more of the Richard.
 

I took that you meant Underwood and not Archie, correct?

[HoosierAloha]

I took that you meant Underwood and not Archie, correct?

Yes. Underwood was who I was referring to but there are many coaches who fit the description. Wilson seems to be another one.


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[Stuhoo]

2 hours ago, HoosierAloha said:

Not speaking at you Fleek but it's a general leadership quality. If I knew my supervisor/teammates had my back I'd do whatever needed to be done for the good of all involved. There's a balance between caring enough to push someone to that next level and just being a Richard. It sounds like he might be more of the Richard.


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Ah yes... “Richard Underwood.”

Ima gonna use that one.

 

[Class of '66 Old Fart]

Justin McKoy a 6-foot-8, 215-pound forward from Cary (NC) Panther Creek and Team Loaded, committed to Penn State on Wednesday.  He also considered Cincinnati and Clemson.

[Class of '66 Old Fart]

2019 four-star Tray Jackson has decommitted from Minnesota, he tells Stockrisers.   Oklahoma, Seton Hall, Depaul, all involved prior to his commitment.

[HinnyHoosier]

2019 four-star Tray Jackson has decommitted from Minnesota, he tells Stockrisers.   Oklahoma, Seton Hall, Depaul, all involved prior to his commitment.

.... And commits to Mizzou hours later. Had a visit scheduled there prior to his Minnesota commitment, but I don't think he actually took it.


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[HoosierHoops1]

7 hours ago, HinnyHoosier said:

 

.... And commits to Mizzou hours later. Had a visit scheduled there prior to his Minnesota commitment, but I don't think he actually took it.


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[Stuhoo]

Malik Hall officially to MSU - Malik Hall officially not to Purdoo.