Brad Stevens tidbit...

[OliviaPope40 6,457]

He did say that he made a hard choice once and doesn't want to make that choice again.

[Old Friend 8,389]

I have never read so much nonsense. Crean is the coach. Stop trying to undermine his recruiting by spreading rumors of his departure. I.U. should have Steve Alford years ago. Crean dug us out of a big hole and he is now on my time clock. I give him three more years to produce. I love you folks that say it doesn't matter what happens next year, LOL. You are so afraid he will succeed next year. I believe he will. We have the nucleus of a great team and a team that will not lose a lot of players to the NBA. 

Whether he succeeds next year or not is irrelevant in the minds of many and a growing number of people, because they can see through it.  Look at his 16 year resume and tell us what you see.    Do you see any reason at all to believe he can or will win consistently?   He has as many conference finishes below 5th place as he does above 5th place in 16 seasons.   Once he got Indiana back to the top 3 years ago, all excuses about what the program was when he got here went away.   He did "dig us out of a hole," and he deserves credit for that...but he doesn't deserve as many years as he needs before 100% of fans agree he can't get it done.   Ever coach has a ceiling....you don't think maybe he's hit it?  I sure do...based on all the evidence you want to read.   For example....

 

Even if you eliminate his first 2 seasons, his Big Ten record in the last 5 seasons is 44-46.   A losing conference record at Indiana in years 3-7?   Without Cody Zeller, he's 1-8 vs. Northwestern.   Let that sink in for a second.    Tom Crean undermines his own recruiting by his failure to develop a roster.    Fact : Trevon Blueitt eliminated Indiana because of the revolving door of pieces and parts on IU's bench.  IU fans didn't do that.  Crean did.   And that's just one example.   I'm not sure what nonsense you're talking about, especially as you refer to people being afraid of success next season.   Can you not see we still don't have a big man?   Can you not see the teams in the final four, three of whom DO?  (The other is MSU, and I don't think anyone has to explain Izzo's track record)    Do you not notice that we don't have anything close to a backup for Yogi on the roster and oh, by the way....he's a senior next year if he decides to return.    Did you not read where Hoetzel and Johnson both arrived on campus not knowing the history and tradition at Indiana?    How does any coach meet high expectations if his players aren't crystal clear on what they are??  At some point, even the most staunch Crean supporters have to look at the long term health of the program and stop worrying about any given single season, right?

[BlueDevil 8,655]

I have never read so much nonsense. Crean is the coach. Stop trying to undermine his recruiting by spreading rumors of his departure. I.U. should have Steve Alford years ago. Crean dug us out of a big hole and he is now on my time clock. I give him three more years to produce. I love you folks that say it doesn't matter what happens next year, LOL. You are so afraid he will succeed next year. I believe he will. We have the nucleus of a great team and a team that will not lose a lot of players to the NBA.

I have never read so much nonsense.

[Hovadipo 55,176]

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Is that Jeff Goodman?

[bnkepner 1,509]

I just think its been obvious that Crean is going to be back next year and Stevens is only thinking about the Celtics right now. Fred Glass has made the Crean part pretty obvious and Danny Ainge has made the Stevens part pretty obvious. I think everyone reads into each word  included. Or then people say "well he didn't say anything about 10 years down the line" (sarcasm). 

[bnkepner 1,509]

No one knows what he'll do.

Did you read the article?

---“I’ll be in Boston,” Stevens told a dozen reporters prior to Wednesday’s game against his hometown team.

“Brad’s not considering college,” Ainge said. “Brad is with the Celtics and he’s … it’s just talk. It’s just talk out there. When coaching jobs open up, of course there’s a lot of people that would love to have interest in Brad, but I’m not even sure that there’s been any contact. I think it’s just mostly talk.”

[Dalton26 16,892]

Did you read the article?

---“I’ll be in Boston,” Stevens told a dozen reporters prior to Wednesday’s game against his hometown team.

“Brad’s not considering college,” Ainge said. “Brad is with the Celtics and he’s … it’s just talk. It’s just talk out there. When coaching jobs open up, of course there’s a lot of people that would love to have interest in Brad, but I’m not even sure that there’s been any contact. I think it’s just mostly talk.”

I did read the article I'm just not that gullible. He said he wouldn't leave Butler and where is he now? Also the "I'll be in Boston" was said when asked about the Texas job. Like I said no one knows what he's going to do. Not even you.

[bnkepner 1,509]

I did read the article I'm just not that gullible. He said he wouldn't leave Butler and where is he now? Also the "I'll be in Boston" was said when asked about the Texas job. Like I said no one knows what he's going to do. Not even you.

People are reading into things too much. Crean is back next year and Stevens will be in Boston. Put it in stone

[Dalton26 16,892]

People are reading into things too much. Crean is back next year and Stevens will be in Boston. Put it in stone

Which is pretty much what everyone on here has said. Fact of the matter is no one knows what Stevens is thinking. You can pretend to know more than everyone but that doesn't make it true.

[bnkepner 1,509]

Which is pretty much what everyone on here has said. Fact of the matter is no one knows what Stevens is thinking. You can pretend to know more than everyone but that doesn't make it true.

Geez Im not pretending to know everything. No reason to get all bent out of shape.
I know nothing about Stevens but as far as IU is concerned Crean is still the coach and the administration has come out saying he is still going to be here next year

[Old Friend 8,389]

Geez Im not pretending to know everything. No reason to get all bent out of shape.
I know nothing about Stevens but as far as IU is concerned Crean is still the coach and the administration has come out saying he is still going to be here next year

No offense, but what the administration has said means absolutely nothing.   They're not going to say anything but exactly what they said, no matter if it's accurate or not.   What are they going to say?  "Yep...we're making a change, and he'll just fill the seat until we do."    Never gonna' happen.   George Steinbrenner gave 782 managers a vote of confidence before he fired them within a week.   That happens all the time.   I'm not telling you a change is coming, however I am saying that because Fred Glass said Crean will be back absolutely does not mean he will.  Heck, I'm not even sure Crean wants to be back.   He was getting booed last season, and some seats were empty.   The whole of the IU fan base minus a few stragglers who are still asleep know how this is going to end.  How can Crean NOT know?   How can Glass not know?    Crean is what he is.   He is now what he's always been.   He's not the right guy for a huge expectation-laden fishbowl like this.   But no good leader is going to cast a good man aside before the solution is in place and said good man leaves with dignity.

[bnkepner 1,509]

No offense, but what the administration has said means absolutely nothing.   They're not going to say anything but exactly what they said, no matter if it's accurate or not.   What are they going to say?  "Yep...we're making a change, and he'll just fill the seat until we do."    Never gonna' happen.   George Steinbrenner gave 782 managers a vote of confidence before he fired them within a week.   That happens all the time.   I'm not telling you a change is coming, however I am saying that because Fred Glass said Crean will be back absolutely does not mean he will.  Heck, I'm not even sure Crean wants to be back.   He was getting booed last season, and some seats were empty.   The whole of the IU fan base minus a few stragglers who are still asleep know how this is going to end.  How can Crean NOT know?   How can Glass not know?    Crean is what he is.   He is now what he's always been.   He's not the right guy for a huge expectation-laden fishbowl like this.   But no good leader is going to cast a good man aside before the solution is in place and said good man leaves with dignity.

Yeah everyone has said this over and over and I just don't believe it. Every other school that was going to fire a coach has made it known pretty easily but for some reason Glass and IU are going to wait? Just honestly doesn't make sense at all. I realize that the conspiracy theory will live on but simply put I just don't believe it. You can say it a million different ways that even though Glass has said what he said things could change but if there was going to be a move made..I think the rumors would be more than flying, but everything has died off and Creans name is not being mentioned for one single job anywhere else anymore.

[Old Friend 8,389]

Yeah everyone has said this over and over and I just don't believe it. Every other school that was going to fire a coach has made it known pretty easily but for some reason Glass and IU are going to wait? Just honestly doesn't make sense at all. I realize that the conspiracy theory will live on but simply put I just don't believe it. You can say it a million different ways that even though Glass has said what he said things could change but if there was going to be a move made..I think the rumors would be more than flying, but everything has died off and Creans name is not being mentioned for one single job anywhere else anymore.

I don't know if it's going to happen now or 1-2 years from now.   But Glass' vote of confidence was expected and his only choice.   Especially (hypothetically) if the guy he wants is still coaching in the NBA and might be busy until mid-May.   An empty seat causes a heck of a lot more heartburn than a filled one.  And....he didn't have to say ANYthing.  The fact that he did could be telling if you're into such theories.

[JSHoosier 19,845]

I did read the article I'm just not that gullible. He said he wouldn't leave Butler and where is he now? Also the "I'll be in Boston" was said when asked about the Texas job. Like I said no one knows what he's going to do. Not even you.

Yeah, Stevens isn't stupid he's not going to come out and say he's interested in coming back to the college ranks.  Not gonna happen, bad move on his part.  At the end of the day no one outside of him and his wife knows for sure.

 

No offense, but what the administration has said means absolutely nothing.   They're not going to say anything but exactly what they said, no matter if it's accurate or not.   What are they going to say?  "Yep...we're making a change, and he'll just fill the seat until we do."    Never gonna' happen.   George Steinbrenner gave 782 managers a vote of confidence before he fired them within a week.   That happens all the time.   I'm not telling you a change is coming, however I am saying that because Fred Glass said Crean will be back absolutely does not mean he will.  Heck, I'm not even sure Crean wants to be back.   He was getting booed last season, and some seats were empty.   The whole of the IU fan base minus a few stragglers who are still asleep know how this is going to end.  How can Crean NOT know?   How can Glass not know?    Crean is what he is.   He is now what he's always been.   He's not the right guy for a huge expectation-laden fishbowl like this.   But no good leader is going to cast a good man aside before the solution is in place and said good man leaves with dignity.

To be fair the number isn't quite that high considering about 750 of those belong to Billy Martin.

[Old Friend 8,389]

 

 

To be fair the number isn't quite that high considering about 750 of those belong to Billy Martin.

Yeah....probably.   But I wasn't going for "fair."   I was going for "over the top, gross exaggeration in order to make a point," but you're right.

[bnkepner 1,509]

I don't know if it's going to happen now or 1-2 years from now.   But Glass' vote of confidence was expected and his only choice.   Especially (hypothetically) if the guy he wants is still coaching in the NBA and might be busy until mid-May.   An empty seat causes a heck of a lot more heartburn than a filled one.  And....he didn't have to say ANYthing.  The fact that he did could be telling if you're into such theories.

Like I said if he actually says something then everyone says he didn't have to say anything. If he doesn't say anything everyone says its a conspiracy because he didn't say anything. Im a conspiracy theorist on everything but I'm still not buying any of this. I don't see Crean being around here much longer but I don't buy into any of these conspiracies on here

[JSHoosier 19,845]

Yeah....probably.   But I wasn't going for "fair."   I was going for "over the top, gross exaggeration in order to make a point," but you're right.

Honest I went for "over the top, gross exaggeration" too.  It wasn't 750 for Billy Martin, only about 500.

[mdn82 25,510]

Geez Im not pretending to know everything. No reason to get all bent out of shape.
I know nothing about Stevens but as far as IU is concerned Crean is still the coach and the administration has come out saying he is still going to be here next year

Where did they use the wording that he will be back next year? I don't recall Glass ever using that wording in either of his votes of confidence.

[Old Friend 8,389]

Honest I went for "over the top, gross exaggeration" too.  It wasn't 750 for Billy Martin, only about 500.

Love it.   

[Old Friend 8,389]

Like I said if he actually says something then everyone says he didn't have to say anything. If he doesn't say anything everyone says its a conspiracy because he didn't say anything. Im a conspiracy theorist on everything but I'm still not buying any of this. I don't see Crean being around here much longer but I don't buy into any of these conspiracies on here

Well, nobody knows anything, so I'm not sure what conspiracies you're referring to; but if you don't think he'll be here very long, SOMEthing's up.