College Bball Thread

[RaceToTheTop]

9 hours ago, Loaded Chicken Sandwich said:

Here is mine from my WAR calculations....not necessarily a traditional 'top 25' but rather my calculations of a team's overall resume in comparison to the minimum number of wins necessary to make the tournament (last year a +1.00 or higher was pretty much a guarantee at the end of the year.  Records against D1 opponents are listed first followed by the team's WAR rating.  Feel free to critique, LCS, since I was hard on your's last week.  :)

1.  Kansas 14-1 (+5.38)

2.  Purdue 15-1 (+4.97)

3.  Alabama 13-2 (+4.34)

4.  U Conn 15-2 (+4.29)

5.  Gonzaga 13-3 (+3.83)

6.  Houston 16-1 (+3.76)

7.  Kansas St 14-1 (+3.6)

8.  Arizona 14-2 (+3.51)

9.  UCLA 14-2 (+3.26)

10. Xavier 13-3 (+3.00)

11.  Tennessee 12-2 (+2.96)

12. Iowa St 12-2 (+2.92)

13.  Miami (F) 13-2 (+2.76)

14.  San Diego St 11-3 (+2.43)

15. Texas 13-2 (+2.38)

16. Charleston 15-1 (+2.37)

17. Missouri 13-2 (+2.36)

18.  Providence 14-3 (+2.08)

19.  Wisconsin 11-3 (+2.06)

20.  Virginia 11-3 (+2.02)

21.  Marquette 13-4 (+1.95)

22. Auburn 12-3 (+1.93)

23. Florida Atlantic (+1.87)

24. Arkansas 12-4 (+1.84)

25. TCU 13-2 (+1.75)

Also considered:

Arizona St 13-3 (+1.75), Duke 12-4 (+1.53), Northwestern 12-3 (+1.52), Michigan St 11-4 (+1.51), Memphis 12-4 (+1.42). 

[Uspshoosier]

12 minutes ago, Hovadipo said:

Nice to know there are some competitive college sports tonight, however hard they may be to find. 

Colgate won by 2 

iupui did their thing and lost.   
 

Georgia looks like they are playing a basketball team on the field.   Pat  Mcafee broadcast might be the only thing to keep watching that game for 

[RaceToTheTop]

One thing I did notice was that mine and LCS's lists had 23 of the 25 top 25 the same even thought hey were meant to measure different things.  The two teams he had in that I did not were Clemson (21st) and Michigan State (23rd);  the two teams I had in that he didn't were San Diego State (14th) and Auburn (22nd).    Both of the teams I had in that he didn't were on his 'considerations list;  Michigan State, which he had in, was on my considerations list while Clemson I had a lot lower (36th overall).

[Uspshoosier]

24 minutes ago, Hovadipo said:

Nice to know there are some competitive college sports tonight, however hard they may be to find. 

https://themw.com/watch/?sid=497683
 

[RaceToTheTop]

2 minutes ago, Uspshoosier said:

https://themw.com/watch/?sid=497683
 

It's a really big game for both teams.  New Mexico needs to break their two game losing streak and Oral Roberts is flying under the radar, but that's a pretty good team.  Only losses so far are road losses to St. Mary's, Utah State, and Houston.  Problem for Oral Roberts is that and New Mexico are there only chances for statement games and that assumes New Mexico keeps playing well.

[RaceToTheTop]

Conner Vanover is the strangest player in D1.  7'5", on his third team (Cal, Arkansas, Oral Roberts).  Can shoot the three some, hell of a free throw shooter, but not necessarily that good at doing what a 7'5" should be good at (inside game, rebounding).

[Uspshoosier]

 

[reconmkd]

Anyone listen to Rick Boyages talking about officiating? 
don’t know what to really think about his comments, but as the Associate Commissioner of Mens Basketball for the B1G, he blames the coaches for the differences between B1G and other conferences. Says that all B1G refs officiate other conferences all the time and they don’t control our conferences preference to tackle basketball. Let’s see who would he be specifically talking about?

[go iu bb]

5 minutes ago, reconmkd said:

Anyone listen to Rick Boyages talking about officiating? 
don’t know what to really think about his comments, but as the Associate Commissioner of Mens Basketball for the B1G, he blames the coaches for the differences between B1G and other conferences. Says that all B1G refs officiate other conferences all the time and they don’t control our conferences preference to tackle basketball. Let’s see who would he be specifically talking about?

So the coaches blame the officials and the officials blame the coaches for the current state of B1G officiating. The coaches will do anything within what they're allowed to do to win so it's the officials that need to make the change. Foul out 1/2 a roster and throw a few coaches if that is what it takes, but they'll get it and adjust accordingly. 

I don't know how one can blame the coaches for the inconsistency within a single game or between separate B1G games, though.

 

[reconmkd]

3 minutes ago, go iu bb said:

So the coaches blame the officials and the officials blame the coaches for the current state of B1G officiating. The coaches will do anything within what they're allowed to do to win so it's the officials that need to make the change. Foul out 1/2 a roster and throw a few coaches if that is what it takes, but they'll get it and adjust accordingly. 

I don't know how one can blame the coaches for the inconsistency within a single game or between separate B1G games, though.

 

Thats why I didn't know what to say and this guy is apparently involved with scheduling and has or still does evaluate refs. Typical B1G official response to any negativity, well its not us, its them. He mentioned that the conference drops the hammer on refs that miss obvious rules and will suspend them for a game or 2 to hit them financially (refs paid $3.5-4K a game according to Rick). Well if that is true than I want to see the official punishment for the refs with the Fran incident the other night!

[Uspshoosier]

https://www.leoweekly.com/2023/01/rick-pitino-says-former-louisville-assistant-is-a-pathological-liar-and-ruined-his-life/

 

[Stuhoo]

5 minutes ago, Uspshoosier said:

https://www.leoweekly.com/2023/01/rick-pitino-says-former-louisville-assistant-is-a-pathological-liar-and-ruined-his-life/

 

And Archie Miller says “give me one of those.”

[Uspshoosier]

4 minutes ago, Stuhoo said:

And Archie Miller says “give me one of those.”

Late in the article he  praises him and calls him a future coach the will have his own program. Calls him   A true professional. Lol.    That’s something 

[Uspshoosier]

South Carolina up 13 early at Kentucky 

[johnsoniu]

Ball St up early at Ohio and Mike Lewis looking pretty dapper on the sideline. On espn+

[Ryno6284]

A lot of people on here talk about tackle basketball in the B1G.  I think the B1G refs call too much nickel-dimer crap and we can't ever get into a flow.  

[southsidehoosier]

28 minutes ago, johnsoniu said:

Ball St up early at Ohio and Mike Lewis looking pretty dapper on the sideline. On espn+

Too cheap for ESPN+ So appreciate any observations

[Uspshoosier]

South Carolina (263 in the NET) coming off a 43 point home loss to Tennessee is up 10 at Kentucky at half 

[johnsoniu]

2 minutes ago, southsidehoosier said:

Too cheap for ESPN+ So appreciate any observations

Ball St had the lead up to 11, had a little sloppy spell, up 3 at half

[Hovadipo]

24 minutes ago, Ryno6284 said:

A lot of people on here talk about tackle basketball in the B1G.  I think the B1G refs call too much nickel-dimer crap and we can't ever get into a flow.  

My problem is the inconsistency. No one knows what a foul is, or a flagrant, or even a technical evidently. One game you’ll have freedom to hammer guys at the rim and 3 nights later your best player fouls out in 18 minutes on 5 ticky tack fouls. 

It all leads to your last point in which none of these games have any flow because the calls are totally different night to night/arena to arena since the teams spend half of the first half just trying to figure out what they can and can’t do. It’s horrible basketball to watch.