College Bball Thread

[Stuhoo 81,056]

Just now, WayneFleekHoosier said:

Trevon Duval quote.

“A lot of us, we see it and we are like dang, maybe we don’t have to go to college,” Duval said. “Maybe we can do it a different way. A lot of us really want to go to school, though, but we see it and see that it’s possible. I was just playing against Thon last year on the circuit so it’s pretty crazy.”

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Sounds like a UK recruit to me.

 

[WayneFleekHoosier 48,432]

 

Sounds like a UK recruit to me.

 

Or UCLA, which many are picking.

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[X-Hoosier 529]

 

Sounds like a UK recruit to me.

 

Or a kid figuring out you can go get paid without going to college.

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[Class of '66 Old Fart 84,850]

I admit I'm confused but then again I'm an Old Fart.  They talk about college and yet quite honestly, I don't think any of the top 50 (and maybe top 100) really expect to obtain a 4-year degree.  They seemingly all have pro ambitions and the sooner the better.

[Class of '66 Old Fart 84,850]

From ESPN.com

The South Florida men's basketball program is under NCAA investigation for possible academic fraud issues, multiple sources told ESPN.  Assistant coach Oliver Antigua, the brother of head coach Orlando Antigua, has not been allowed to go out on the road recruiting this month, multiple sources told ESPN.  Orlando Antigua took over in 2014 after spending the previous six seasons under John Calipari -- one at Memphis and five at Kentucky.  Oliver Antigua was previously an assistant for one season at Seton Hall before he was hired to join the USF staff in 2014. He spent more than a decade as the head coach at St. Raymond High in the Bronx.  Orlando Antigua, 43, is 16-47 in his two seasons at the helm at South Florida. The Bulls were 7-24 last season.

 

 

[X-Hoosier 529]

I admit I'm confused but then again I'm an Old Fart.  They talk about college and yet quite honestly, I don't think any of the top 50 (and maybe top 100) really expect to obtain a 4-year degree.  They seemingly all have pro ambitions and the sooner the better.

All of them should be pursuing a professional career. Every college athlete should be working their ass off to be a professional athlete. They may have no chance. But if they work that hard it'll make everyone better across the slate. I don't care if it is a walk on. I feel a lot of players go to college and just say "well I'm here and can get a free education so it is whatever." Rather than "I have the opportunity and resources to become as good as I possibly can and push my own limits." All recruits/players should be pursuing a professional career in the sport they're playing.

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[Stuhoo 81,056]

26 minutes ago, X-Hoosier said:

Or a kid figuring out you can go get paid without going to college.

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Yes! That too.

The UK model is more along the lines of " figuring out you can go get paid without going to college...for very long."

[X-Hoosier 529]

 

Yes! That too.

The UK model is more along the lines of " figuring out you can go get paid without going to college...for very long."

I know you hate UK.. we all do. But you gotta go to class at UK. It isn't North Carolina.

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[WayneFleekHoosier 48,432]

I know you hate UK.. we all do. But you gotta go to class at UK. It isn't North Carolina.

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Ugh

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[HoosierAloha 30,068]

Ugh

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Something like this I suppose with flexible hours and no permanent location.

12 hours a semester composed of...

(3 CH) History of puke university

(campus orientation)

(3 CH) Elective

(basketball)

(3 CH) 21st Century Clandestine Operations

(Getting cash undetected)

(3 CH) Freshman Writing

(Signature practice)

[Stuhoo 81,056]

35 minutes ago, X-Hoosier said:

I know you hate UK.. we all do. But you gotta go to class at UK. It isn't North Carolina.

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You have to stay eligible at UK. I believe that in nine years of Calipari, only one of his scholly recruits (Poythress) has obtained a college degree.

That makes them within the corners of the page, but it also makes them poster children for making a mockery of the concept of the student athlete. And that's WITH giving them the benefit of the doubt that they're not pulling UNC/UL type shenanigans.

 

[X-Hoosier 529]

Something like this I suppose with flexible hours and no permanent location.

12 hours a semester composed of...

(3 CH) History of puke university

(campus orientation)

(3 CH) Elective

(basketball)

(3 CH) 21st Century Clandestine Operations

(Getting cash undetected)

(3 CH) Freshman Writing

(Signature practice)

Writing Your Name 101.

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[X-Hoosier 529]

 

You have to stay eligible at UK. I believe that in nine years of Calipari, only one of his scholly recruits (Poythress) has obtained a college degree.

That makes them within the corners of the page, but it also makes them poster children for making a mockery of the concept of the student athlete. And that's WITH giving them the benefit of the doubt that they're not pulling UNC/UL type shenanigans.

 

The student-athlete term was destroyed a while ago sadly. And that doesn't start with college. That starts in elementary school now. Sports and school if you feel like it. What happens at UK? No clue. If something is happening it show itself eventually. I'm not worried about them being caught. I'd say it is best they don't. Not that it is best they cheat if they are. I'd just hope they doing what they're doing cleanly. Because it creates a higher level of competitiveness. Which is good for the sport. Sports need villains. Makes it more interesting. I wish Indiana was a villain on the CBB stage but we're just here at the moment while schools like Kentucky and Duke are dominating on the recruiting trail and great on the court.

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[WayneFleekHoosier 48,432]

Something like this I suppose with flexible hours and no permanent location.

12 hours a semester composed of...

(3 CH) History of puke university

(campus orientation)

(3 CH) Elective

(basketball)

(3 CH) 21st Century Clandestine Operations

(Getting cash undetected)

(3 CH) Freshman Writing

(Signature practice)

🏼

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[Stuhoo 81,056]

39 minutes ago, X-Hoosier said:

The student-athlete term was destroyed a while ago sadly. 

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That's waaay too cynical, especially in light of the college degrees obtained by: Hulls, Watford, Oladipo, Zeller, Sheehey, Etherington, Roth, Pritchard, Creek, Ferrell, Jones, Williams, Elston, and many others that I'm probably forgetting. 

Oh, and also, every one of those IU degree recipients played on a B1G championship squad.

 

[Alford Bailey 12,387]

19 hours ago, Stuhoo said:

 

You have to stay eligible at UK. I believe that in nine years of Calipari, only one of his scholly recruits (Poythress) has obtained a college degree.

That makes them within the corners of the page, but it also makes them poster children for making a mockery of the concept of the student athlete. And that's WITH giving them the benefit of the doubt that they're not pulling UNC/UL type shenanigans.

 

The majority of those guys are becoming multi millionaires with 1-2  years of college. Pretty good deal imo. The questions becomes can they manage that money.

[Stuhoo 81,056]

6 minutes ago, Alford Bailey said:

The majority of those guys are becoming multi millionaires with 1-2  years of college. Pretty good deal imo. The questions becomes can they manage that money.

 

Well said. My takeaway is that UK is stacking their roster with eligible players that are being forced to pretend to be student athletes when they need not ever see a college campus.

 

[WayneFleekHoosier 48,432]

 

Well said. My takeaway is that UK is stacking their roster with eligible players that are being forced to pretend to be student athletes when they need not ever see a college campus.

 

Yep

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[X-Hoosier 529]

 

Well said. My takeaway is that UK is stacking their roster with eligible players that are being forced to pretend to be student athletes when they need not ever see a college campus.

 

Huh? There are only a couple players a year ready for the NBA right out of High School. Last year Ben Simmons was the only one. 2014 class.. Karl Anthony-Towns possibly but only because he played in the Olympics and a taste of professional basketball young. Wiggins the year before that. Basically all players need at least one year in college or overseas.

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[Stuhoo 81,056]

Huh? There are only a couple players a year ready for the NBA right out of High School. Last year Ben Simmons was the only one. 2014 class.. Karl Anthony-Towns possibly but only because he played in the Olympics and a taste of professional basketball young. Wiggins the year before that. Basically all players need at least one year in college or overseas.

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Why "huh?"

I'm not saying they ARE ready for the NBA; I'm saying that kids like the Harrisons , Marcus Teague, James Young etc. etc. are not on campus to be student athletes. They wish they were in the NBA right away even if they are not ready to be there. In any event, they have no business being on a college campus.