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College Bball Thread

By BlueDevil, in Indiana Men's Basketball

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AZ Hoosier    9,499

AZ Hoosier
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7 minutes ago, Uspshoosier said:

https://x.com/adamzagoria/status/1759376731163521488?s=46

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"If I said I was disappointed, that would be the understatement of the year."

"We are so non-athletic that we can't guard anybody without fouling."

"This is the most unenjoyable experience of  my lifetime."

Rick Pitino on 
@StJohnsBBall

 

I could not have said it better... just change the last two lines to:

Mike Woodson re:
@IndianaMBB

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WayneFleekHoosier    49,988

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https://x.com/dalydoseofhoops/status/1759378304153321547?s=46
 
under and he bus.  lol Pitino didn’t hold back 

Seriously though, Ledlum is terrible. Do these coaches know what they are looking for when they scout?

Indiana has him as a primary target. Tenn wanted him, but realized he wouldn’t start. St. John’s wanted him. I watch 10 min of highlight packages and looked at his stats and knew exactly what he was. Baffling.

Woody’s system is so bad. He truly doesn’t understand the analytics. He will never be a big time college success without diametrically changing his systems. Not good.


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str8baller    6,547

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5 minutes ago, WayneFleekHoosier said:

I watch 10 min of highlight packages and looked at his stats and knew exactly what he was. Baffling.

Honestly, I want to chastise this as fan over analysis. But I did the same. A quick look at his highlights could tell you where and how he got a lot of shots (and you could match what you saw on tape with his stats) and that was against Ivy League defenses—although he did have a nice game against one p5 school, iirc. I was totally confused as to what he was supposed to do at IU to help us.  
 

He goes to st johns—thankfully—and he’s the same player you saw on tape. I’m not saying one can do this with every prospect (I surely can’t) but he’s one player I did not understand the interest in. 

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RaceToTheTop    28,742

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3 hours ago, Demo said:

I’ll give Woody this, he may be frustrated, but he’s not a freaking child whining about his roster like this. 

Pitino literally told everybody on last year's St. John's team except Joel Soriano to transfer elsewhere and then proceeded to recruit over the scholarship limit to the point of bringing a guy in to play without a scholarship.  He.brought.in.thirteen.players and now complains that they are too slow?  

I believe it was Trilly Donovan who reported that Pitino who forced every player out of his program except for Soriano.  Then take a look at what some of those players are doing elsewhere....

David Jones is averaging 21.6 points and 7.4 rebounds at Memphis and is shooting 40% from three.

Posh Alexander is averaging 11.4 points, 4.4 rebounds, and 5.1 assists at Butler.  

Andre Curbelo finally was granted eligibility at Southern Miss.  Has averaged 13.7 points, 4.9 rebounds, and 4.4 assists in 7 games.

Dylan Addae-Wusu is averaging 8 points, 5.6 rebounds, and 2.2 assists at Seton Hall.

A.J. Storr is averaging 16.5 points, 3.7 rebounds at Wisconsin.

Rafael Pinzon is averaging 11.7 points at Bryant.

O'Mar Stanley is averaging 12.9 points and 6.2 rebounds at Boise State.

Kolby King is averaging 12.0 points and 4.2 rebounds and is shooting 40% from three at Tulane.

He literally ran out of the town the roster that he wanted.

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RaceToTheTop    28,742

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3 hours ago, WayneFleekHoosier said:


Seriously though, Ledlum is terrible. Do these coaches know what they are looking for when they scout?

Indiana has him as a primary target. Tenn wanted him, but realized he wouldn’t start. St. John’s wanted him. I watch 10 min of highlight packages and looked at his stats and knew exactly what he was. Baffling.

Woody’s system is so bad. He truly doesn’t understand the analytics. He will never be a big time college success without diametrically changing his systems. Not good.


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In terms of Tennessee wanting him but realized he wouldn't start.....remember that he committed to Tennessee initially on April 19th.  I believe he decommitted shortly after Dalton Knecht committed to the Vols.  So it was more than the Vols just wanting him -- that had him on their roster.

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LamarCheeks    21,038

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21 minutes ago, Uspshoosier said:

Also Chicago St last game of the year is today.  Since they are an independent no post season tourney for them 

They play IUN (our Gary campus). That's just a few minutes from where I grew up -- took a couple summer classes there years and years ago. Didn't even know they played hoops. 

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AZ Hoosier    9,499

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I listened to an interesting take this morning from Greeny... Greenberg was out, but the team was talking about how the landscape of college sports has changed, and how that may affect how fans react to "their" team. The majority of the "legendary" coaches are gone - dead or retired (Knight, Boeheim, Coach K, Roy Williams, etc)... so there is that loss of a "connection point"... and now with NIL and the transfer portal, we effectively have "free agency" in college sports - especially basketball and football... so in addition to losing the connection to the coaches, we are now seeing a loss of the connection to the players... and not knowing from season to season who will be where, it causes a major disconnect... 

The obvious flip side to that is the fact that I grew up a Hoosier fan, went to IU, and even after moving to Arizona 45 years ago, still consider Indiana my team... and assuming any of the Hoosier players (Malik, MM, Ware) transfer to another school, I would be interested in how they are doing, but would not switch my allegiance... but has this new landscape affected the level of my interest in the Hoosiers or is the current malaise rooted in Woodson, and the way this failed experiment has gone?

I guess I can see it, but curious about what others here think... 

 

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SamIam    711

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2 minutes ago, AZ Hoosier said:

I listened to an interesting take this morning from Greeny... Greenberg was out, but the team was talking about how the landscape of college sports has changed, and how that may affect how fans react to "their" team. The majority of the "legendary" coaches are gone - dead or retired (Knight, Boeheim, Coach K, Roy Williams, etc)... so there is that loss of a "connection point"... and now with NIL and the transfer portal, we effectively have "free agency" in college sports - especially basketball and football... so in addition to losing the connection to the coaches, we are now seeing a loss of the connection to the players... and not knowing from season to season who will be where, it causes a major disconnect... 

The obvious flip side to that is the fact that I grew up a Hoosier fan, went to IU, and even after moving to Arizona 45 years ago, still consider Indiana my team... and assuming any of the Hoosier players (Malik, MM, Ware) transfer to another school, I would be interested in how they are doing, but would not switch my allegiance... but has this new landscape affected the level of my interest in the Hoosiers or is the current malaise rooted in Woodson, and the way this failed experiment has gone?

I guess I can see it, but curious about what others here think... 

 

This is depressing but the clock is ticking on college sports as we know it. Honestly, this is another one of the reasons I hope we move on from Woody now. I want to win while this sport is still the sport I grew up with. It's already changed so much, but NIL is nothing compared to what's coming. PAC 12 teams are joining next year. The tournament will be expanded to 90-something teams in the next few years. And there is essentially no way the NCAA can outmaneuver all of the existential threats they are facing in the courts. 

Soon players will be employees. After that, football will be all that matters. The big schools will form their own league, and they will gut the tournament to protect the big schools interests. 

Remember when the top european football clubs tried to form a super league and the outrage was so immediate that they had to scrap that plan? We really needed a moment like that, cause we all hate the way things are going and yet no one can step up and stop it. 

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Alford Bailey    12,828

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3 hours ago, AZ Hoosier said:

I listened to an interesting take this morning from Greeny... Greenberg was out, but the team was talking about how the landscape of college sports has changed, and how that may affect how fans react to "their" team. The majority of the "legendary" coaches are gone - dead or retired (Knight, Boeheim, Coach K, Roy Williams, etc)... so there is that loss of a "connection point"... and now with NIL and the transfer portal, we effectively have "free agency" in college sports - especially basketball and football... so in addition to losing the connection to the coaches, we are now seeing a loss of the connection to the players... and not knowing from season to season who will be where, it causes a major disconnect... 

The obvious flip side to that is the fact that I grew up a Hoosier fan, went to IU, and even after moving to Arizona 45 years ago, still consider Indiana my team... and assuming any of the Hoosier players (Malik, MM, Ware) transfer to another school, I would be interested in how they are doing, but would not switch my allegiance... but has this new landscape affected the level of my interest in the Hoosiers or is the current malaise rooted in Woodson, and the way this failed experiment has gone?

I guess I can see it, but curious about what others here think... 

 

100%.  I check scores more than watch college games. At least in the NBA you know what you will have for a couple years.

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