College Bball Thread

[Loaded Chicken Sandwich]

1 minute ago, Ryno6284 said:

How did this get skipped over?  I could see him making that move.

This has been said multiple times. Believe it was a "rumor" before Beard was hired. It was before Shaka Smart was hired. Nick Saban is going to Texas too... Lol

[Ryno6284]

Anybody watching the aztecs and cowboys?

[IU Scott]

5 minutes ago, Loaded Chicken Sandwich said:

Losses aren't created equal. But the phrase "no bad losses" is what I don't like. "this loss isn't as bad as others" or "this loss won't hurt the resume too much." It's still a loss. It's still bad. And we lose a lot. 

I think he is talking about your tournament resume and losses are viewed differently.

[Uspshoosier]

Just now, IU Scott said:

I think he is talking about your tournament resume and losses are viewed differently.

He knows what I’m talking about he just disagrees with the fact the committee and others use the phrase bad loss.   

[Loaded Chicken Sandwich]

1 minute ago, IU Scott said:

I think he is talking about your tournament resume and losses are viewed differently.

If you want to just discuss bracketology then sure. But the Indiana fan base just does it in general. To justify our mediocrity. 

[Uspshoosier]

1 minute ago, Ryno6284 said:

Anybody watching the aztecs and cowboys?

Yep it’s on one of the TVs.   Wyoming only down 3 

[Loaded Chicken Sandwich]

3 minutes ago, Ryno6284 said:

Anybody watching the aztecs and cowboys?

I turned on Pitt-Clemson... Pitt on my radar for the Top 25. Been playing better lately. Probably the best they've looked since like 2014. 

[Ryno6284]

Just now, Uspshoosier said:

Yep it’s on one of the TVs.   Wyoming only down 3 

It was a rhetorical question for you, I was asking everyone else! LOL

[hoosierbgh]

50 minutes ago, Loaded Chicken Sandwich said:

All losses are bad

You're correct, they should just cancel the remainder of the season. Every team has lost, most more than once and to a team they shouldn't have. Clearly no one is worthy of a championship, so it is time to just end it. Maybe that will teach teams to play harder and smarter if they stop getting rewarded for being less than perfect. 

Why would anyone want to watch losers play against other losers just to find out who the last loser standing is? I say just play the season until there is only one team remaining that hasn't lost, then crown them the champions. It'd make for awfully short seasons and we'd miss out on some great games but it's the only way I see to avoid rewarding losers. While we're at it, maybe we should consider instituting some kind of punishment for the losing players and coaches. The time of fans clearly wanting it more than players and coaches has to come to an end.

For that matter, with games meaning so much more now, why even bother with coaches who are demonstrated losers? Why reward a losing coach with a contract worth millions and any semblance of job security? Instead, let's have the most dedicated and knowledgeable fan from each team coach. Until they lose of course, then they have to go. We might just have to substitute fans for players too, if the players keep bringing less effort than the fans and especially if they continue to tolerate losing more than the fans. 

[Ryno6284]

cowboys take the lead

 

[Uspshoosier]

1 minute ago, Loaded Chicken Sandwich said:

If you want to just discuss bracketology then sure. But the Indiana fan base just does it in general. To justify our mediocrity. 

Bracketologist in me can point out that the Iowa game wasn’t a bad loss, the IU fandom in me can acknowledge that losing a 21 point lead on the road is a bad loss 

[IU Scott]

8 minutes ago, Loaded Chicken Sandwich said:

If you want to just discuss bracketology then sure. But the Indiana fan base just does it in general. To justify our mediocrity. 

Sure whatever you say but no one is justifying mediocrity.  Some can look at things objectively and realize that all programs go through the same things. Some others just look at the team they supposedly are fans of and think we are the only team with those problems.  I see people saying how we don't know how to face a zone just because some moron said so. Some just go with that theory because they want to have a reason to bash the coach. Like in 2016 where we lost to Syracuse people couldt believe how bad we did against their zone but they never look at that everyone that year struggled with their zone.

[Loaded Chicken Sandwich]

2 minutes ago, IU Scott said:

Sure whatever you say but no one is justify mediocrity.  Some can look at things objectively and realize that all programs gonthrough the same things. Some others just look at the team they supposedly are fans of and think we are the only team with those problems.  I see people saying how we don't know how to face a zone just because some moron said so. Some just gonwith that theory because they want to have a reason to badh the coach. Like in 2016 where we lost to Syracuse people couldt believe how bad we did against their zone but they never look at that everyone that year struggled with their zone.

Yea sure... Try and go find the last 25 year spell of mediocrity from Kansas, Kentucky, UNC, Duke... 

[HoosierAloha]

1 hour ago, Uspshoosier said:

Iowa loss to eastern Illinois smashed their NET.  Iowa isn’t a bad team they just had a brain fart against a terrible team even if their best player was out.  
 

Iowa has a convincing win against Iowa st who is good.  They have neutral court win  against Clemson and road win at Seton Hall.   People can trash IU for losing to them on the road but that’s not a bad loss for IU 

We might have different definitions of a brain fart. Losing your man on a single play seems more like a brain fart to me. Getting beat on your home floor to a team THAT bad? It wasn't like they played bad and got beat on a last second shot. They were handled in the second half by a team that sits at 350 on Kenpom AFTER winning at Iowa. That's horrible. They followed that up by getting run by Nebrasketball before looking bad at Penn State for ~35 minutes.

The Iowa loss itself isn't bad. Couple how it played out with what we've seen earlier in the season and it's bad. Add to that what Iowa looked like prior to that game and what we did in the first part of the first half. Ouch.

[Uspshoosier]

16 minutes ago, cthomas said:

You are nearly always a voice of analytical reason we the fan base whips itself into a frenzy. Everyone sees things from the perspective that exists inside their head. Nothing wrong with that. But I always look forward to the more balanced view that you often bring.

I appreciate the kind words.   I try to bring a view from a college basketball fan not necessarily an IU fan.   

[Ryno6284]

Aztecs back up 1. 4:11 to go

 

[IU Scott]

7 minutes ago, Loaded Chicken Sandwich said:

Yea sure... Try and go find the last 25 year spell of mediocrity from Kansas, Kentucky, UNC, Duke... 

What the hell does that have to do with this discussion. I have said our fans have been part of the problem and I am referring to fans like you. At every turn you take a chance to bash the coaches and players and maybe players and coaches don't want to play for fans like you. I have been told the fans have nothing to do with it so how are fans settling for mediocrity effect the team.  We have had 6 coaches and 5 AD's in the last 23 years so I think that shows that no one has settled for mediocrity.

[Ryno6284]

cowboys miss the front end of 1 and 1.

[Loaded Chicken Sandwich]

Clemson locking up a road win at Pitt. 

[Loaded Chicken Sandwich]

2 minutes ago, IU Scott said:

What the hell does that have to do with this discussion. I have said our fans have been part of the problem and I am regfeting to fans like you. At every turn you take a chance to bash the coaches and players and maybe players and coaches don't want to play for fans like you. I have been told the fans have nothing to do with it so how are fans settling for mediocrity effect the team.  We have had 6 coaches and 5 AD's in the last 23 years so I think that shows that no one has settled for mediocrity.

You said every program goes through... Yea the elite ones have not... But I guess we don't want to be in that company anymore.