Double D laying down a truth bomb right now on 1070!

[Hovadipo 53,306]

Bowling Green beat Michigan in a scrimmage. That means nothing but it's the most newsworthy nugget we've had in a while.

[LazOffTheBench 3,638]

I bet Dakich knew a lot about Sampson. Just couldn't do much about it.

[CampHoosier 3,697]

Bc they are out drinking the night before a public scrimmage that die hard fans look forward to attending and want to be rewarded by seeing a team that has been busting their ass and playing for the name on the front of the jersey. Instead we have a bunch of guys looking forward to partying and having fun. I agree that anything about Holt and being at fault in the accident is dumb, but the fact that he is getting behind the wheel after underage drinking the night before a scrimmage is the issue.

 

We don't know the story. If Holt didn't even have enough alcohol for a glass of wine, who is to say he wasn't forced to be a DD? He had girls in his car too from the same party Devin was at. I wouldn't blame the guy who is making sure people are getting home. I know that pledges in a Frat have to do the same thing and drive people home. Maybe Emmitt had a beer two hours prior and was ready for bed and got a text that Devin needed a ride. I think the anger is misguided here. 

[mamasa 14,910]

It'll be interesting to be in Assembly Hall on Thursday

[theriverpilot 5,589]

I think its really easy for him to say that. 

 

I have to agree with you here, Kepner.  I get what Dakich is saying and it needs to stop, but it's a lot easier to blast the criticism from outside in.  

[HoosierHoops1 5,024]

I bet Dakich knew a lot about Sampson. Just couldn't do much about it.

Well, the high and mighty act doesn't stop at kicking off the players. If Dakich is all he says he is, we'd have known about Sampson and the state of the team long before some phone call records came out.

[CampHoosier 3,697]

You can't bark about lack of institutional control when you don't even know your head coach is making illegal calls and your players are flunking classes/failing drug tests

[LazOffTheBench 3,638]

If we don't know the story about Holt, why be so quick to give him a pass?

[HoosierDribbler 464]

Not sure the anger is directed at Holt. More so, I think the anger is directed at the totality of the behavior of a few players during the past few months. They represent all of us.

[biteoftheapple 4,115]

I believe Dakich came to the Samson era, after the illegal contacts were discovered.

[CampHoosier 3,697]

If we don't know the story about Holt, why be so quick to give him a pass?

 

Because we have the police report. He wasn't intoxicated. He wasn't implicated as the reason for the accident. "Pedestrian cause" means it was Devin's fault. 

[jsprigler 52]

The reality is that college students have fun partying and drinking and being stupid. Just because someone is an athlete shouldn't remove them from being students. If this was an academic scholly student would anyone care?

DD just preaches from his soapbox nothing but rhetoric.

Would we really scour the entire planet to find the exceptional athletes who have no intention of doing anything remotely like this, and if we did what would the outcome of that be? 3 and 20?

The program obviously has issues, but they all do, this incident just happened to be a tragedy as well...

[shortspacequickness 1,034]

There is absolutely no question that the partying has been amplified to a degree beyond reasonable. It is up to the players to decide how serious they want to be.

 

Given an opportunity, and they shove it right back in the face of the coaches. And it's the coaches who will have to pay for it. Sad, but I get the feeling that this is the beginning of the end for Tom Crean... hope it's not.

[HoosierHoops1 5,024]

If we don't know the story about Holt, why be so quick to give him a pass?

I know 2 parts of the story, from what we've officially been told.

 

1. The amount of alcohol Holt allegedly consumed would not have adversely effected his driving.

 

2. Devin Davis ran into the road in front of a moving vehicle.

[Walking Boot of Doom 18,170]

1) I agree with Dakich's sentiments regarding the state of the program and the need for change
2) This has been going on since before Crean, and has been the main issue he's attempted to fix. Fixed the academic side and most of the character issues, but the partying is his glaring gap. All in all, this can't all be placed on Crean, but it will.
3) Dakich can suck it for ripping Holt. He doesn't know all of the situation. Holt could have been trying his absolute best to protect his teammates and could have been placed into a terrible situation. Or he could be completely at fault, but it doesn't seem that way
4) Dakich better stop trying to defend his "innocence" regarding his ties to the Sampson era. Can't drop "truth bombs" on some things and brush the truth under the rug when the truth hurts you. His almighty image he is preaching is bull.
5) please make this all go away, and let's get back to winning and being the program we used to be....

[Parakeet Jones 3,738]

This bothers me as well.  Holt very well could have been at the party to DD (ordered to by the upperclassmen..)  Then at the party ordered to drink a beer, or have one to somewhat fit in and not be the total outcast.  I don't place any blame on Holt for this.  I feel really bad for the kid and whatever circumstances surrounded the incident that we do not know.

 

Who cares if he was "ordered" to drink. If you don't want to do it, don't do it.  Ultimately it's his choice to drink or not to drink.  And if he was ordered to drink by a team mate, than we're in deeper crap than I already fear.  

 

I am not saying this to place blame on Holt, but the whole "maybe he was ordered to drink and he didn't want to be an outcast" thing is bunk imo.  

[HoosierHoops1 5,024]

I believe Dakich came to the Samson era, after the illegal contacts were discovered.

Not sure about that, but I know Dan was on the staff during Hoosier Hysteria.

[HoosierHoops1 5,024]

Who cares if he was "ordered" to drink. If you don't want to do it, don't do it.  Ultimately it's his choice to drink or not to drink.  And if he was ordered to drink by a team mate, than we're in deeper crap than I already fear.  

 

I am not saying this to place blame on Holt, but the whole "maybe he was ordered to drink and he didn't want to be an outcast" thing is bunk imo.  

I agree with that mostly, because it never worked on me, but peer pressure and the need for acceptance really drives many of the mistakes we make in our youth.

[Bk4life 190]

Plain and simple...these kids were given a chance to wear the candy stripes...to partake in one of the most storied programs in college basketball...as a freshman, don't drink before a performance...plain and simple....Dakich has the backing of probably 99% of former players...

[Parakeet Jones 3,738]

I agree with that mostly, because it never worked on me, but peer pressure and the need for acceptance really drives many of the mistakes we make in our youth.

 

I agree and I understand that.  I am a teacher, I see it every day in my job.  I just hate it when we lower our expectations for kids (athletes or not) by acting like they are all to weak to resist peer pressure.  Even if peer pressure is the reason they make a mistake, it's still a mistake. 

 

I'm not going off on you HH1, this is just a sore spot with me.