Hoosierfan2017 Posted June 22, 2018 Posted June 22, 2018 14 minutes ago, WayneFleekHoosier said: Honestly I don’t think LeBron, Kahwi, and George make the Lakers good enough to beat Golden State. I don’t like LeBron and Simmons together at all so Philly is out imo. I like Kawhi and LeBron but George is way overrated imo. Need a different third to form a big three. Idk but I want someone that can beat Golden State. Sent from my iPhone using BtownBanners I would donate to a "beat Golden State" GoFundMe lol. It doesn't even have to be LeBron, just someone beat them. HoosierDYT and WayneFleekHoosier 2 Quote
VeevlandBrowns Posted June 24, 2018 Posted June 24, 2018 Former blue chipper Brandon McCoy went undrafted and signed a FA deal with the Bucks. As much as anything, it was reflective of the NBA’s shift away from the traditional center. McCoy showed no signs of a perimeter game and his defense in space was seen as highly questionable. That’s enough to leave you undrafted today. Remember, this is a guy who was borderline Top 10 nationally in his class just one year ago. Quote
OliviaPope40 Posted June 25, 2018 Posted June 25, 2018 Kelan Martin and Isaac Haas are in Utah for the summer from what I have read at least they have a deal for the summer. Quote
HoosierX Posted June 25, 2018 Posted June 25, 2018 On 6/22/2018 at 2:34 PM, WayneFleekHoosier said: Honestly I don’t think LeBron, Kahwi, and George make the Lakers good enough to beat Golden State. I don’t like LeBron and Simmons together at all so Philly is out imo. I like Kawhi and LeBron but George is way overrated imo. Need a different third to form a big three. Idk but I want someone that can beat Golden State. Sent from my iPhone using BtownBanners George is still an elite defender. You could bring two guys out of the stands and that would still damn near be the best defensive team in the league. HoosierDYT 1 Quote
Crimson and Cream Posted June 25, 2018 Posted June 25, 2018 5 hours ago, VeevlandBrowns said: Former blue chipper Brandon McCoy went undrafted and signed a FA deal with the Bucks. As much as anything, it was reflective of the NBA’s shift away from the traditional center. McCoy showed no signs of a perimeter game and his defense in space was seen as highly questionable. That’s enough to leave you undrafted today. Remember, this is a guy who was borderline Top 10 nationally in his class just one year ago. Averaged a double double as a freshman. But like you said, the NBA has no place for a big center with heavy feet and no outside shot. He could go overseas and be a monster though. Good money and be treated like a king. He'll be fine. Quote
IUfan_Charlie Posted June 25, 2018 Posted June 25, 2018 6 hours ago, VeevlandBrowns said: Former blue chipper Brandon McCoy went undrafted and signed a FA deal with the Bucks. As much as anything, it was reflective of the NBA’s shift away from the traditional center. McCoy showed no signs of a perimeter game and his defense in space was seen as highly questionable. That’s enough to leave you undrafted today. Remember, this is a guy who was borderline Top 10 nationally in his class just one year ago. Man look at Trevon Duval. #1 PG coming out of high school, projected lottery pick - just went undrafted 1 year later. A broken jumper and terrible decision maker and couldn't go back to Duke because he got recruited over. Quote
HoosierDYT Posted June 25, 2018 Posted June 25, 2018 Man look at Trevon Duval. #1 PG coming out of high school, projected lottery pick - just went undrafted 1 year later. A broken jumper and terrible decision maker and couldn't go back to Duke because he got recruited over.Crazy I agree. I actually thought he was decent at Duke but just too inconsistent for a point guard. His athleticism and passing should’ve warranted a second round pick though imoSent from my iPhone using BtownBanners mobile app Quote
KingPG21 Posted June 25, 2018 Posted June 25, 2018 Pacers declined their team option on Lance. Expected to pursue Tyreke Evans and Will Barton thebigweave 1 Quote
IUfan_Charlie Posted June 25, 2018 Posted June 25, 2018 PG on IG talking like he wasn't the one that wanted out of Indy and tanked his value on purpose. Dude is a bitter ex. thebigweave 1 Quote
TXHoosierDaddy Posted June 25, 2018 Posted June 25, 2018 14 hours ago, IUfan_Charlie said: Man look at Trevon Duval. #1 PG coming out of high school, projected lottery pick - just went undrafted 1 year later. A broken jumper and terrible decision maker and couldn't go back to Duke because he got recruited over. Prime example of how the one and done rule really hurts these kids. It also has diluted the NBA product over the years. Quote
Hoosierfan2017 Posted June 25, 2018 Posted June 25, 2018 12 minutes ago, IUfan_Charlie said: PG on IG talking like he wasn't the one that wanted out of Indy and tanked his value on purpose. Dude is a bitter ex. He's not wrong though. Professional sports teams have no loyalty. They'll cut players loose in the blink of an eye. I don't blame guys for doing what they think is best for themselves. Quote
Brass Cannon Posted June 25, 2018 Posted June 25, 2018 4 minutes ago, Hoosierfan2017 said: He's not wrong though. Professional sports teams have no loyalty. They'll cut players loose in the blink of an eye. I don't blame guys for doing what they think is best for themselves. They cut people loose but how often do they sabotage the players chances at a new contract Quote
Brass Cannon Posted June 25, 2018 Posted June 25, 2018 16 minutes ago, TXHoosierDaddy said: Prime example of how the one and done rule really hurts these kids. It also has diluted the NBA product over the years. It helped whoever took his spot getting draft d Quote
Hoosierfan2017 Posted June 25, 2018 Posted June 25, 2018 3 minutes ago, Brass Cannon said: They cut people loose but how often do they sabotage the players chances at a new contract I'd say he ultimately did the Pacers a favor so I don't think he sabotaged them. Quote
Brass Cannon Posted June 25, 2018 Posted June 25, 2018 7 minutes ago, Hoosierfan2017 said: I'd say he ultimately did the Pacers a favor so I don't think he sabotaged them. He tried to IUfan_Charlie, thebigweave, WayneFleekHoosier and 2 others 5 Quote
Hoosierfan2017 Posted June 25, 2018 Posted June 25, 2018 14 minutes ago, Brass Cannon said: He tried to If you're looking at it from management's position, then yes. But he didn't owe the Pacers any loyalty. It wasn't his responsibility to help them get a good return for him. He wanted out, he wanted to control where he went, and he didn't want a team to deplete their roster to acquire him. He did what was best for him. The Pacers didn't have to trade him. They weren't required to accept a "bad" trade package. They made the decision to do so. Quote
Brass Cannon Posted June 25, 2018 Posted June 25, 2018 2 minutes ago, Hoosierfan2017 said: If you're looking at it from management's position, then yes. But he didn't owe the Pacers any loyalty. It wasn't his responsibility to help them get a good return for him. He wanted out, he wanted to control where he went, and he didn't want a team to deplete their roster to acquire him. He did what was best for him. The Pacers didn't have to trade him. They weren't required to accept a "bad" trade package. They made the decision to do so. You honestly think it was OK for him to tank his value that there was nothing wrong with that Iugradman and thebigweave 2 Quote
mdn82 Posted June 25, 2018 Posted June 25, 2018 If you're looking at it from management's position, then yes. But he didn't owe the Pacers any loyalty. It wasn't his responsibility to help them get a good return for him. He wanted out, he wanted to control where he went, and he didn't want a team to deplete their roster to acquire him. He did what was best for him. The Pacers didn't have to trade him. They weren't required to accept a "bad" trade package. They made the decision to do so. Why wouldn’t they trade him if he wasn’t staying? Him telling them he wasn’t resigning forced their hand. If the Pacers were the Lakers they could ride it out until FA. As a small market club they aren’t in a position to let assets go out the door knowingly. Especially when they weren’t close to competing. Edit: I don’t disagree either about him not owing them anything. Loyalty is no longer a thing, so I don’t think that’s on him. Sent from my iPhone using BtownBanners mobile app Quote
Hoosierfan2017 Posted June 25, 2018 Posted June 25, 2018 12 minutes ago, Brass Cannon said: You honestly think it was OK for him to tank his value that there was nothing wrong with that Yes I do. From an objective standpoint, why should he have made things easier on the Pacers? If, say, three years ago NO had called up and said "we'll give you Anthony Davis for Paul George", they wouldn't have hesitated. So why shouldn't George be the same way? Quote
Hoosierfan2017 Posted June 25, 2018 Posted June 25, 2018 15 minutes ago, mdn82 said: Why wouldn’t they trade him if he wasn’t staying? Him telling them he wasn’t resigning forced their hand. If the Pacers were the Lakers they could ride it out until FA. As a small market club they aren’t in a position to let assets go out the door knowingly. Especially when they weren’t close to competing. Sent from my iPhone using BtownBanners mobile app I'm not saying they should have kept him, just that it was an option if his value was lower than what they were willing to trade him for. They didn't have to accept a bad trade. mdn82 1 Quote
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