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I'm convinced that Crean doesn't know how to utilize big men in his transition offense. And that's fine with me. But I want to see a coaching hire that is purely for the development of big men. Crean can run a solid transition offense and develop guards extremely well IMO.


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[quote name="scottybower" post="54008" timestamp="1395858503"]I'm convinced that Crean doesn't know how to utilize big men in his transition offense. And that's fine with me. But I want to see a coaching hire that is purely for the development of big men. Crean can run a solid transition offense and develop guards extremely well IMO.


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I thought Cody Zeller was the best transition big in the country in his 2 years here.

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call me naive but i doubt coaches really come on here and read these posts....maybe im wrong and i will stand corrected if so.....also that guy dumping all that info in here idk his name....but you really cant believe everything you see. I could have easily made up those situations, like the one about CTC and will arguing if noah is the hardest worker.....thats my 2 cents

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[quote name="BlueDevil2aHoosier" post="54011" timestamp="1395858665"]I thought Cody Zeller was the best transition big in the country in his 2 years here.[/quote] He played well in our offense but I don't necessarily believe Crean coached him to his potential as a big. the Gazeller was incredible in transition but his post game left a little to be desired.


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[quote name="EvilleAngler" post="54010" timestamp="1395858578"]Isn't McClain the bigs coach?[/quote] No idea. I would love to know though because Vonleh looked lost in the half court all year. Wasn't exactly a coincidence that our ball movement improved those couple games he was out. Specifically the OSU game.


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[quote name="scottybower" post="54018" timestamp="1395859760"]He played well in our offense but I don't necessarily believe Crean coached him to his potential as a big. the Gazeller was incredible in transition but his post game left a little to be desired.


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Zeller would personally disagree with your post. He's said it multiple times


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[quote name="ElectricBoogaloo" post="54007" timestamp="1395858319"]CTC: "I'll take over from here, Coach Johnson."
Sniper 2730: "Thank God, sir. We need some real leadership here."
CTC: "What's the status, son?"
Sniper 2730: "Well, I was overexposed for too long and had to ditch my rifle. I still have the target in sight. How would you like me to proceed?"
CTC: "It's very simple."
Sniper 2730: "I knew you would have a plan."
CTC: "I need you to use your skills, vision, toughness and grit to get the job done."
Sniper 2730: "I give up."[/quote]

These need to be in an entirely different thread dedicated to this. Awesome.


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[quote name="GoHoosiers09" post="54015" timestamp="1395859163"]call me naive but i doubt coaches really come on here and read these posts....maybe im wrong and i will stand corrected if so.....also that guy dumping all that info in here idk his name....but you really cant believe everything you see. I could have easily made up those situations, like the one about CTC and will arguing if noah is the hardest worker.....thats my 2 cents[/quote]

Sure you could but could you have told who was transferring and the day the news would break ahead of time. Would you have included Johnny Marlin in your prediction? That is what has given him some believability.


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'Scuse me while I quote myself! ;)

 

 

 


Stuhoo, Posted Today, 09:15 AM

This post would be a damning indictment of CTC's teams were it true, but it is not. 

 

We were very high on turnovers last year. With a sophomore pg, a freshman 2 guard, and a freshman at the 3 spot.

The two years before last we were not high on turnovers. Experience = fewer turnovers. Period.

 

Length? This coming year, Yogi is not a "long" player. Hanner is. Troy is. Devin, if he plays the 4, is. Stan is. AntLee, if he comes to IU is. JB2? A little longer and taller than you think. RoJo? Not long. Yante and Josh C? Both very long for their positions. Max? Doesn't seem so. 

 

Overall? Better outside shooting, more experience with our ballhandlers. And...pretty much gotta be better team chemistry. 

 

We still turned the ball over on average 13 times a game the last couple years.  When the goal is 10 or less, according to Crean himself, that is kind of high.

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He played well in our offense but I don't necessarily believe Crean coached him to his potential as a big. the Gazeller was incredible in transition but his post game left a little to be desired.


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I disagree with this and he never that coach didn't coach him to potential because coach obviously did that.

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I am cool with his comments.  I understand why he said them.  I don't really agree with all of them.  If you are embarrassed by what is put out there, then don't do some of the things in the first place.  I am sure most all of them are really cool dudes.  However, I care about IU basketball.  My perception right now is that IU basketball isn't where it needs to be.  Hopefully it gets there under them.  If it doesn't, I hope they are gone.  Like them in their profession if I don't get the job done I am fired.  If he wants to equate his profession to my or anyone's profession, there it is at it's most basic form.  I don't get do-overs.  Same as him.  I perform or I am gone.  That is pressure, but you know what?  I signed up for it.  At this point all we hear is the negative chatter, transfers, and the results.  Yet he doesn't want us to believe anything we hear?  Ok…  Again, I am completely cool with what he said and understand his position.  Hopefully he understands mine.  

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^^^^^^ I also think he has done excellent work on the East Coast.  This isn't all him.  I just haven't heard one coach talk about how they regret how they did something this year.  I don't like the fact there has been no accountability.  Everything has been everyone else's fault.  That attitude frustrates me.  I am not saying it is all of their faults, and I think overall they can do good here.  If they don't think they are doing anything wrong, will we ever truly see improvement under Crean?  

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^^^^^^ I also think he has done excellent work on the East Coast.  This isn't all him.  I just haven't heard one coach talk about how they regret how they did something this year.  I don't like the fact there has been no accountability.  Everything has been everyone else's fault.  That attitude frustrates me.  I am not saying it is all of their faults, and I think overall they can do good here.  If they don't think they are doing anything wrong, will we ever truly see improvement under Crean?  

 

On the other hand, they could hold a press conference and say all the right things and tell the fans what they want to hear...and if the same problems spring up next season, what did it matter?  The results on the court are the bottom line.  They can be brutally honest or tweet sweet nothings into my ear, what happens on the court in 2014-15 is what really matters to me.  I have a hard time believing this coaching staff isn't doing some kind of self-evaluation right now even if they won't admit to it publicly for ego reasons or whatever.  Maybe all the bad things people say about Crean are true, but the proof will be in how the staff is able to transform the situation into a better season next year.  And if it doesn't get better, then you know all you needed to know.  Presser or no presser.

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On the other hand, they could hold a press conference and say all the right things and tell the fans what they want to hear...and if the same problems spring up next season, what did it matter?  The results on the court are the bottom line.  They can be brutally honest or tweet sweet nothings into my ear, what happens on the court in 2014-15 is what really matters to me.  I have a hard time believing this coaching staff isn't doing some kind of self-evaluation right now even if they won't admit to it publicly for ego reasons or whatever.  Maybe all the bad things people say about Crean are true, but the proof will be in how the staff is able to transform the situation into a better season next year.  And if it doesn't get better, then you know all you needed to know.  Presser or no presser.

I can agree with that.  I doubt they aren't evaluating all things.  I know there is a portion of the fan base will jump on him no matter what he does, because they feel if you are not Bob Knight you cannot coach.  That will not happen with him or the next coach.  As a person I think he could have endeared himself to more people by admitting fundamental failures from players, recruiting, to coaching.  His ability to sell the fans on his vision is what got him this far.  He is now seemingly walking down the street with both middle fingers in the air if you somehow doubt that vision.  Just not a fan of that approach.  

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I can agree with that.  I doubt they aren't evaluating all things.  I know there is a portion of the fan base will jump on him no matter what he does, because they feel if you are not Bob Knight you cannot coach.  That will not happen with him or the next coach.  As a person I think he could have endeared himself to more people by admitting fundamental failures from players, recruiting, to coaching.  His ability to sell the fans on his vision is what got him this far.  He is now seemingly walking down the street with both middle fingers in the air if you somehow doubt that vision.  Just not a fan of that approach.  

 

I do agree that more of a mea culpa approach would benefit him with the fan base in general but maybe he really is socially awkward (as some have said) and doesn't really see how he comes off to people. 

 

My growing concern is the loss of recruiting momentum.  Tom has been great at getting Indiana in the discussion with a lot of recruits but I feel like he has lost some key battles in the last year or so (and that is not meant to be a negative comment on the 2013 kids or JB2 & RJ).  I know the 2014 in-state class turned out to be a bit wonky but only coming away with JB2 out of that class still hurts.  Theo Pinson...Goodluck...Noah was a great hit in his favor of course.  But like with Anthony Lee, I just feel this sense of skepticism with OSU and L-ville in the hunt.  I just feel like yeah, we aren't getting that one either.  Maybe it is an irrational thought, I don't know.

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Pretty sure this coaching staff is evaluated on a very obvious scale of wins and loses over 30 times a year.  Every recruit they talk to is analyzed.  They also do pre and post game press conferences and are available to the media a lot.  They are as straightforward with assessment of the games as any staff in the country.
 
If you think Crean and his staff have less evaluation and are held less accountable at their job than the average joe you're crazy.

I disagree that they are as straightforward with assessment of the games for one simple reason. Everytime Crean is asked a question during post game interviews regarding a topic his response is one of two things. Either I will have to take a look at the game film or look at his stat sheet for answers. Then the typical coach speak comes out like the lights were too bright or our mindset was great. The reality is he is really not sure why we lost because I don't think he really watches the game as a coach that can make a difference. He constantly consults with his note cards, charging back and forth on the sidelines, and worried about subbing as player A might be over his allotted minutes. Take a look at his inbounds plays and non adjustments at halftime. Rarely are we successful after either and that is straight on the coach.

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