Popular Post Stuhoo Posted yesterday at 08:30 PM Popular Post Posted yesterday at 08:30 PM Not sure it has been discussed thoroughly just how bad Todd Golden's defensive decisions were for the possession of Iowa's winning score last weekend. Iowa inbounds down two with 8.9 seconds remaining. Golden has three.. yes THREE defenders in the backcourt. One on them is guarding the in-bounder! Guarding the in-bounder is a 6'4" backup guard, when Florida has Reuben Chinyelu, a 6'10" national defensive player of the year candidate parked on the bench. Florida Guard Xavian Lee is tightly guarding Iowa 6'7" freshman forward Sage, who Florida should very much want to catch the ball. Fland is guarding Stirtz; Iowa clearly wants to get the ball to Stirtz, not Sage. 2. Stirtz, as expected, curls toward Sage to pick up a screen. Fland goes under the screen, thereby not putting himself between Stirtz and the basket. As Fland gets beaten, Lee does not switch; he lets Stirtz fly by: Which allows Stirtz to catch on the dead run just past the backcourt three point line. AND? it's on. A three on two fast break for Iowa: Haugh and Condon on Florida are guarding three players. Haugh steps up to Stirtz; with the ball and the best shooter of the three. Stirtz makes the easiest pass ever to the near corner. For the widest of wide open threes imaginable. Game over. This is insanely horrifically bad scheme and strategy every step of the way. Golden's explanation? UF was trying to foul in the backcourt to force Iowa to tie the game from the line. NO YOU WEREN'T - Todd Golden is lying, because fouling up two when the other team is in the double bonus would be (if possible) even worse strategy. Aye. Caramba. Alford Bailey, raorIU, Jeff Flabjohns and 9 others 11 1 Quote
mark1981 Posted yesterday at 09:02 PM Posted yesterday at 09:02 PM I thought the inbound pass was going to be picked. It looked like a tight window to lead the receiver enough to clear the defender while keeping it in play. That pass was just as important as the shot. Nice execution. I agree. Things might have turned out different if they didn't press the inbound play. Home Jersey 1 Quote
Kentuckysucks Posted yesterday at 09:28 PM Posted yesterday at 09:28 PM 57 minutes ago, Stuhoo said: Not sure it has been discussed thoroughly just how bad Todd Golden's defensive decisions were for the possession of Iowa's winning score last weekend. Iowa inbounds down two with 8.9 seconds remaining. Golden has three.. yes THREE defenders in the backcourt. One on them is guarding the in-bounder! Guarding the in-bounder is a 6'4" backup guard, when Florida has Reuben Chinyelu, a 6'10" national defensive player of the year candidate parked on the bench. Florida Guard Xavian Lee is tightly guarding Iowa 6'7" freshman forward Sage, who Florida should very much want to catch the ball. Fland is guarding Stirtz; Iowa clearly wants to get the ball to Stirtz, not Sage. 2. Stirtz, as expected, curls toward Sage to pick up a screen. Fland goes under the screen, thereby not putting himself between Stirtz and the basket. As Fland gets beaten, Lee does not switch; he lets Stirtz fly by: Which allows Stirtz to catch on the dead run just past the backcourt three point line. AND? it's on. A three on two fast break for Iowa: Haugh and Condon on Florida are guarding three players. Haugh steps up to Stirtz; with the ball and the best shooter of the three. Stirtz makes the easiest pass ever to the near corner. For the widest of wide open threes imaginable. Game over. This is insanely horrifically bad scheme and strategy every step of the way. Golden's explanation? UF was trying to foul in the backcourt to force Iowa to tie the game from the line. NO YOU WEREN'T - Todd Golden is lying, because fouling up two when the other team is in the double bonus would be (if possible) even worse strategy. Aye. Caramba. Per KenPom your odds of winning do go up by a few percent of you foul. I checked with AI and it confirmed that is accurate. Stuhoo 1 Quote
jermhoosierfan Posted yesterday at 09:30 PM Posted yesterday at 09:30 PM I didn't think Golden was all that last year while they were drooling all over him. He put together one helluva team to win it all, and he deserves credit for that and for getting the job done. He still has a lot to learn. Quote
BA47591 Posted yesterday at 09:33 PM Posted yesterday at 09:33 PM I will hold out my overall McCollum evaluation until the end of year one without Stirtz. I'd consider some early action on IU finishing higher than Iowa in the Big Ten next year. Pagoda 1 Quote
Jeff Flabjohns Posted yesterday at 10:55 PM Posted yesterday at 10:55 PM 1 hour ago, jermhoosierfan said: I didn't think Golden was all that last year while they were drooling all over him. He put together one helluva team to win it all, and he deserves credit for that and for getting the job done. He still has a lot to learn. You have it backwards. The only one drooling was Golden over the co-eds. Golfman25, Home Jersey, JF87 and 2 others 5 Quote
str8baller Posted 23 hours ago Posted 23 hours ago 1 hour ago, jermhoosierfan said: I didn't think Golden was all that last year while they were drooling all over him. He put together one helluva team to win it all, and he deserves credit for that and for getting the job done. He still has a lot to learn. They won the SEC by 3 games this year. Upsets happen. They had a pretty flawed backcourt this year and I thought he did a nice job getting them straightened out for the most part. Quote
Golfman25 Posted 23 hours ago Posted 23 hours ago 39 minutes ago, Jeff Flabjohns said: You have it backwards. The only one drooling was Golden over the co-eds. Yeah, but it's Florida. :] Quote
Alford Bailey Posted 21 hours ago Posted 21 hours ago Knew it was bad defense watching it live and even worse watching the replay. Quote
Shooter Posted 21 hours ago Posted 21 hours ago I don't think Golden was lying. He was really trying to foul, and I think that's why Fland was so desperate to deny Stirtz. They wanted to make someone else catch the inbound and foul him immediately. Kenpom article on fouling up 2, including a reference to Golden at San Francisco: https://kenpom.com/blog/the-guide-to-fouling-when-leading-or-tied/ edit: the article is actually co-written by Pomeroy, and current Florida assistant Jonathan Safir Stuhoo, Jeff Flabjohns and Home Jersey 3 Quote
Stuhoo Posted 21 hours ago Author Posted 21 hours ago 4 hours ago, Kentuckysucks said: Per KenPom your odds of winning do go up by a few percent of you foul. I checked with AI and it confirmed that is accurate. 22 minutes ago, Shooter said: I don't think Golden was lying. He was really trying to foul, and I think that's why Fland was so desperate to deny Stirtz. They wanted to make someone else catch the inbound and foul him immediately. Kenpom article on fouling up 2, including a reference to Golden at San Francisco: https://kenpom.com/blog/the-guide-to-fouling-when-leading-or-tied/ edit: the article is actually co-written by Pomeroy, and current Florida assistant Jonathan Safir Great stuff!! Based on the chart from the article, with UF approximately 70% pre-game likely to win, Iowa a strong FT shooting team, and double bonus in effect, they were squarely in the “Don’t Foul” territory: Shooter and Home Jersey 2 Quote
Shooter Posted 21 hours ago Posted 21 hours ago 6 minutes ago, Stuhoo said: Great stuff!! Based on the chart from the article, with UF approximately 70% pre-game likely to win, Iowa a strong FT shooting team, and double bonus in effect, they were squarely in the “Don’t Foul” territory: Yea, in general I love when coaches think outside the box like this, but I think they outsmarted themselves this time. The real life outcome was something that maybe didn't even show up in their analysis - deciding to foul does not guarantee that your players will execute it correctly. Based on the chart, only Manyawu is a bad enough FT shooter to think about fouling. I can't remember if he was even on the floor. Home Jersey 1 Quote
Stuhoo Posted 21 hours ago Author Posted 21 hours ago 6 minutes ago, Shooter said: Yea, in general I love when coaches think outside the box like this, but I think they outsmarted themselves this time. The real life outcome was something that maybe didn't even show up in their analysis - deciding to foul does not guarantee that your players will execute it correctly. Based on the chart, only Manyawu is a bad enough FT shooter to think about fouling. I can't remember if he was even on the floor. He was not on the floor. Quote
HinnyHoosier Posted 20 hours ago Posted 20 hours ago Regardless of the quality of Golden's coaching, he still needs his scrawny little neck wrung from time to time for his tough guy outbursts on the sideline. Home Jersey 1 Quote
HinnyHoosier Posted 20 hours ago Posted 20 hours ago 5 minutes ago, HinnyHoosier said: Regardless of the quality of Golden's coaching, he still needs his scrawny little neck wrung from time to time for his tough guy outbursts on the sideline. @Home Jersey I see you laughing. You know you want to see it happen! Home Jersey 1 Quote
Home Jersey Posted 20 hours ago Posted 20 hours ago 3 minutes ago, HinnyHoosier said: @Home Jersey I see you laughing. You know you want to see it happen! Pagoda, Jeff Flabjohns, HinnyHoosier and 2 others 5 Quote
newcastle12 Posted 20 hours ago Posted 20 hours ago It was not Golden's finest hour, what a complete collapse. Stuhoo 1 Quote
jermhoosierfan Posted 9 hours ago Posted 9 hours ago 13 hours ago, Golfman25 said: Yeah, but it's Florida. :] A blind man would be drooling on that campus. bird4par 1 Quote
bird4par Posted 53 minutes ago Posted 53 minutes ago On 3/24/2026 at 4:33 PM, BA47591 said: I will hold out my overall McCollum evaluation until the end of year one without Stirtz. I'd consider some early action on IU finishing higher than Iowa in the Big Ten next year. Gotta set realistic goals, finish ahead of Iowa is a start. I live in Iowa so I respect this. Quote
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