How is Darian DeVries Doing So Far?

[Golfman25]

3 minutes ago, Stuhoo said:

^This^ 

Football is successful beyond our wildest dreams. So, while it would be epic to also have a top ten basketball team, if instead we have a team that is reasonably successful, is easy to root for with  great kids like Lamar, Enright, Sisley, and Alexis, and always plays their ***** off like this team is doing?

I am a combination of thrilled and completely, unequivocally satisfied.

They just have to do their job, one game at a time.  Maybe steal one on the road.  

[AH1971]

5 minutes ago, Golfman25 said:

Are you just admitting it only takes a good coach one year?   

Is that what you took away from my post? It took some staffing changes and a few stacked recruiting classes before Dan Hurley got really good at UConn. But since DeVries hasn’t done it in 24 games he needs to be gone?

[Josh]

4 minutes ago, Stuhoo said:

^This^ 

Football is successful beyond our wildest dreams. So, while it would be epic to also have a top ten basketball team, if instead we have a team that is reasonably successful, is easy to root for with  great kids like Lamar, Enright, Sisley, and Alexis, and always plays their ***** off like this team is doing?

I am a combination of thrilled and completely, unequivocally satisfied.

This team makes you thrilled and satisfied.  Oof.

[Stuhoo]

1 minute ago, Josh said:

What do you see?  Dan Hurley Junior?

I most certainly did not say that, and frankly I have no idea what  a Dan Hurley Jr. would look like. An arrogant Hall of Fame coach? Devries isn’t arrogant and in less than one season I have ZERO idea how successful he’ll ultimately be. 

What I DO see is a team that has

1. gotten better as the season has progressed,

2. has excellent body language,

3. is easy to root for,

4. is mentally strong, and

5. that consistently plays hard.

Do you see those things?

[DChoosier]

1 hour ago, AH1971 said:

Tristen Newton was on the first title team and their 4th or 5th option on offense. He was a great player for them but nowhere close to being the only reason they won the national title that year. Dan Hurley had transfers on each of his first four teams that didn’t win a single tournament game. Dan Hurley took off at UConn when he hired Luke Murray to run his offense. Their efficiency before and after he was hired is staggering. 

Agree about Murray. I have a couple of UCONN grad friends that often complained about Hurleys offense prior to Murray arriving. 
They loved his defense, the intensity in which his teams played etc but thought the offense was mediocre.

[Stuhoo]

Just now, Josh said:

This team makes you thrilled and satisfied.  Oof.

That’s some weak-@$$ reading comprehension. Allow me to say it again:

WE JUST WON THE NATIONAL CHAMPIONSHIP WITH AN UNDEFEATED FOOTBALL TEAM, so if we have a basketball team to go with it that is (as I JUST TYPED) “reasonably successful,” as an IU alum and fan I am thrilled and satisfied.

[Golfman25]

Just now, AH1971 said:

Is that what you took away from my post? It took some staffing changes and a few stacked recruiting classes before Dan Hurley got really good at UConn. But since DeVries hasn’t done it in 24 games he needs to be gone?

You gave zero credit to recruiting classes.   You said his results were due to that coach.  Now you’re saying it’s a combination of things?   For some reason you refuse to accept the changed landscape with transfers and nil and how those conditions change expectations. 
 

But regardless, go today’s game thread.  A bunch of posters came out of the woodwork questioning coaching decisions.   So the jury is still out.   

[Golfman25]

6 minutes ago, Stuhoo said:

I most certainly did not say that, and frankly I have no idea what  a Dan Hurley Jr. would look like. An arrogant Hall of Fame coach? Devries isn’t arrogant and in less than one season I have ZERO idea how successful he’ll ultimately be. 

What I DO see is a team that has

1. gotten better as the season has progressed,

2. has excellent body language,

3. is easy to root for,

4. is mentally strong, and

5. that consistently plays hard.

Do you see those things?

All arrows pointing up.  Lets hope they translate to a tournament birth and momentum going forward.   

[Josh]

3 minutes ago, Stuhoo said:

That’s some weak-@$$ reading comprehension. Allow me to say it again:

WE JUST WON THE NATIONAL CHAMPIONSHIP WITH AN UNDEFEATED FOOTBALL TEAM, so if we have a basketball team to go with it that is (as I JUST TYPED) “reasonably successful,” as an IU alum and fan I am thrilled and satisfied.

Ok ok, so we've deflected to IU football, we've deflected to Dan Hurley, and we've deflected to how Devries got robbed at WVU.  This thread has plenty of deflections.  

What is your "reasonably successful" that makes you thrilled?

[AH1971]

Just now, Golfman25 said:

You gave zero credit to recruiting classes.   You said his results were due to that coach.  Now you’re saying it’s a combination of things?   For some reason you refuse to accept the changed landscape with transfers and nil and how those conditions change expectations. 
 

But regardless, go today’s game thread.  A bunch of posters came out of the woodwork questioning coaching decisions.   So the jury is still out.   

The unlimited transfer portal had been around 3 years before Hurley won his first tournament game, so spare me this idea that Hurley suddenly got good because of that. He was given time, years actually (not 20 games), to stack recruiting classes and develop his guys while at the same time properly assessing his staff and making the necessary changes. 
 

Todd Golden would be a more appropriate example in this current climate but that ruins all narratives that one year turnarounds need to be demanded.

[TheWatShot]

5 minutes ago, Stuhoo said:

That’s some weak-@$$ reading comprehension. Allow me to say it again:

WE JUST WON THE NATIONAL CHAMPIONSHIP WITH AN UNDEFEATED FOOTBALL TEAM, so if we have a basketball team to go with it that is (as I JUST TYPED) “reasonably successful,” as an IU alum and fan I am thrilled and satisfied.

Josh decided back in December that DeVries is a bad coach, and he likes having strong opinions that aren't widely shared by the board. 

 

Kind of an odd time to be on a bender like this after we just won for the fourth time in five games, but to each their own. 

[Josh]

Just now, TheWatShot said:

Josh decided back in December that DeVries is a bad coach, and he likes having strong opinions that aren't widely shared by the board. 

 

Kind of an odd time to be on a bender like this after we just won for the fourth time in five games, but to each their own. 

Haha if I followed strong opinions from this board then Archie Miller was the best hire ever. 

You laugh at me because I'm different, I laugh at you because you're all the same.  Surely Archie was a great hire, right?

[Home Jersey]

1 minute ago, Josh said:

Haha if I followed strong opinions from this board then Archie Miller was the best hire ever. 

You laugh at me because I'm different, I laugh at you because you're all the same.  Surely Archie was a great hire, right?

Ooooof. Cringe bro.

[Josh]

1 minute ago, Home Jersey said:

Ooooof. Cringe bro.

Oh no!  Let me follow your opinions then.

[Stuhoo]

14 minutes ago, Josh said:

Ok ok, so we've deflected to IU football, we've deflected to Dan Hurley, and we've deflected to how Devries got robbed at WVU.  This thread has plenty of deflections.  

What is your "reasonably successful" that makes you thrilled?

I’ve already posted this twice. As an IU alum and fan, coupled with a National Champion undefeated football team, I am great with a basketball team that has:

24 minutes ago, Stuhoo said:

1. gotten better as the season has progressed,

2. has excellent body language,

3. is easy to root for,

4. is mentally strong, and

5. that consistently plays hard.

and with those five qualities happening, we are currently a tournament team.

That’ll work for me.

[AH1971]

Josh is definitely the guy who thought (and still thinks) Brad Stevens was coming to IU and couldn’t wait until DeVries lost his first game just so he could announce how incompetent the administration is for having low “standards”.
 

Either way, it’s going to be a long and miserable 3 years at minimum for Josh as he’ll struggle in deciding to root for IU to win or continuing to double and triple down on stupidity for the sake of being right.

[Josh]

7 minutes ago, Stuhoo said:

I’ve already posted this twice. As an IU alum and fan, coupled with a National Champion undefeated football team, I am great with a basketball team that has:

and with those five qualities happening, we are currently a tournament team.

That’ll work for me.

You're distracted on basketball performance over football success.  Good fir you, but understand that there are people who can compartmentalize the two.

[Josh]

7 minutes ago, AH1971 said:

Josh is definitely the guy who thought (and still thinks) Brad Stevens was coming to IU and couldn’t wait until DeVries lost his first game just so he could announce how incompetent the administration is for having low “standards”.
 

Either way, it’s going to be a long and miserable 3 years at minimum for Josh as he’ll struggle in deciding to root for IU to win or continuing to double and triple down on stupidity for the sake of being right.

Another incorrect assumption!  Man you just keep throwing theories out rather than comprehending truth.  I never thought Stevens was coming and that's documented.

But I appreciate the stupidity insult!  The insults are on brand for you.

[Stuhoo]

7 minutes ago, Josh said:

You're distracted on basketball performance over football success.  Good fir you, but understand that there are people who can compartmentalize the two.

No compartmentalization for me!

Cig changes everything as an IU alum. And football is going to be top five in August and likely long thereafter.

I’m an old-head and a basketball junkie who played and loves everything about it. But at this point if basketball plays hard and is not top tier but “good enough ?”

Then this is the best IU sports era ever. 

[Josh]

9 minutes ago, Stuhoo said:

No compartmentalization for me!

Cig changes everything as an IU alum. And football is going to be top five in August and likely long thereafter.

I’m an old-head and a basketball junkie who played and loves everything about it. But at this point if basketball plays hard and is not top tier but “good enough ?”

Then this is the best IU sports era ever. 

Is it?  Doc Counsilman, Jerry Yeagley, and Bob Knight all disagree with you.  Me too.

You're so distracted by outside events that you're overlooking basketball results.  Good for you on admitting it, but please realize that others can give individual focus