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Do Not Fire Mike Woodson

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Just now, JSHoosier said:

I misread the finish, my mistake and stand corrected on that point. Still stands that UCONN was trending up, aside from 20-21 their overall record was better every year. No one would've called for his job here.

UConn fans were literally calling for his job. He was in put up or shut up mode going into year 5. 

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1 hour ago, AH1971 said:

UConn fans were literally calling for his job. He was in put up or shut up mode going into year 5. 

They really were not "literally calling for his job" at anywhere near the scale of IU fans right now for Woody. 

https://the-boneyard.com/threads/is-hurley-on-the-hot-seat.178039/

You can literally see on one of their most popular forums, someone asked if he was on the hot seat via a poll after a bad loss, and was basically shouted down by their entire board. UConn and IU are not remotely comparable programs in any sense currently ... they actually have a competent administration. Sad to say. But largely true.

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3 minutes ago, Home Jersey said:

They really were not "literally calling for his job" at anywhere near the scale of IU fans right now for Woody. 

https://the-boneyard.com/threads/is-hurley-on-the-hot-seat.178039/

You can literally see on one of their most popular forums, someone asked if he was on the hot seat via a poll after a bad loss, and was basically shouted down by their entire board. UConn and IU are not remotely comparable programs in any sense currently ... they actually have a competent administration. Sad to say. But largely true.

Funny that you posted a thread created in February of 2022 BEFORE he lost in the first round (again) to a lower seed (again) in the tournament a month later. The expectation for Hurley entering year 5 was that he better show something in the tournament. Luckily for him he passed with flying colors and hasn't looked back since. 

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4 minutes ago, AH1971 said:

Funny that you posted a thread created in February of 2022 BEFORE he lost in the first round (again) to a lower seed (again) in the tournament a month later. The expectation for Hurley entering year 5 was that he better show something in the tournament. Luckily for him he passed with flying colors and hasn't looked back since. 

So we'll see if Woody can pass basically the same test in similar fashion this year

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2 hours ago, AH1971 said:

That's not at all the comparison USPS was making. He was saying that Wright, Drew, Bennett, etc deserved more time despite have similar or worse resumes through 3 years over Woodson because they had more experience in the college game. Which is an absolute nonsense argument. 

Interesting. That was my argument? I just posted numbers of where those coaches coached before they were head coaches other people can make arguments for weather they deserve more or less time then another coach.   Just pointed out  where those mostly Hall of Fame coaches grinded before they became head coaches.  Woody could actually have a winning record in the NBA and I would have wanted a college lifer to coach IU instead of him.     Just my opinion though 

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Well, I'm convinced now. Woodson is the greatest thing since sliced bread. He should definitely get a huge raise and an extension before the season since he's definitely on the level of Knight, McCracken, K, Hurley, and multiple other NC winning coaches. 

This year is when he'll show his greatness and will be the 1st of multiple NC because this is such a great team with a great coach. It's really odd, though, that his biggest supporters put the floor at only 22 wins while telling us how great this team and the coach are. Regardless, they've convinced me of his greatness so anything less than 25 regular season wins and a FF appearance would be a disappointing season. 

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10 minutes ago, go iu bb said:

Well, I'm convinced now. Woodson is the greatest thing since sliced bread. He should definitely get a huge raise and an extension before the season since he's definitely on the level of Knight, McCracken, K, Hurley, and multiple other NC winning coaches. 

This year is when he'll show his greatness and will be the 1st of multiple NC because this is such a great team with a great coach. It's really odd, though, that his biggest supporters put the floor at only 22 wins while telling us how great this team and the coach are. Regardless, they've convinced me of his greatness so anything less than 25 regular season wins and a FF appearance would be a disappointing season. 

Someone clearly doesn't know what floor means ^^^^

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13 hours ago, AH1971 said:

-Jay Wright missed the tournament his first 3 years

-So did Mike Krzyzewski

-Scott Drew didn’t win his first tournament game until year 7

-Tony Bennett missed the tournament 3 out of his first 4 years and didn’t win his first tournament game until year 5

What else you need?

 

No, that’s good!  That proves your point but that’s not the reason why most of us don’t like him as our coach, but good data nonetheless!  

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1 minute ago, AH1971 said:

Someone clearly doesn't know what floor means ^^^^

I do but with how great this team and coach are, 22 wins is very weak. This is one of the greatest coaches ever so it's insulting that you have such low expectations that only 22 would be possible.

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2 minutes ago, Hoosierfan2017 said:

Nah, we know what floor is. We just see Woodson’s supporters intentionally setting a low floor so that expectations aren’t too high. 

Exactly, and that cupcake non-conference schedule should help attain that floor level win total

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11 minutes ago, go iu bb said:

I do but with how great this team and coach are, 22 wins is very weak. This is one of the greatest coaches ever so it's insulting that you have such low expectations that only 22 would be possible.

22 wins is absolute worst case scenario ie the “floor”. Would entail a devastating injury or two, Rice/Carlyle not being anywhere near as good as advertised, and/or team never gelling together. 22 wins and a 6/7 seed would be a major disappointment. There’s 8-10 other teams in the country whose “floor” is 22 wins. That’s how good next years team is going to be.

Imagine getting caught up where the absolute worst case scenario is still comfortably making the tournament and still being expected to advance? What is wrong with you people?

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47 minutes ago, Hoosierfan2017 said:

Nah, we know what floor is. We just see Woodson’s supporters intentionally setting a low floor so that expectations aren’t too high. 

Another person who doesn't know what floor means ^^^

And I'm not sure why you'd care either? You don't even root for the team to win and have stated on multiple occasions that you don't intend on tuning in this season. 

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