Transfer Portal w IU Interest

[RaceToTheTop]

22 minutes ago, WayneFleekHoosier said:

Oof…


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Huh?

He was in the eight man rotation of the national champion team.  And check his numbers compared to Alex Condon if he played Condon's minutes:

Condon 10.6 points, 7.5 rebounds, 1.3 blocks

Alexis 9.9 points, 7.4 rebounds, 1.3 blocks

 

[RaceToTheTop]

7 minutes ago, go iu bb said:

Gabe Cupps and Jakai Newton were both 3* transfers on 247. How do they have Sam Alexis as a NR/0* transfer? He was more productive than either of them on a better team. lmao

https://247sports.com/player/sam-alexis-46133294/

I'm finding that players enter so quickly that often they don't get rated.  On3 seems to be a little better about it.

[Home Jersey]

10 minutes ago, WayneFleekHoosier said:

Gonna be Leo Curtis and Federico and then they call it a day? Like that Greek kid quite a bit. Was hoping the Sorber talk had juice.


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I would be happy to add Leo Curtis and Federiko. I think that would get us to 12 with 7 seniors?

I'd like to see them get a full 13 (even though a lot of teams only do 12) with a freshman or rising sophomore... for continuity's sake

[RaceToTheTop]

FWIW, the addition of Dorn and Alexis moves IU from 35 to 31 on Torvik.

[tyappleg]

26 minutes ago, Hoosierfanyuh said:

Offensive rebound rate of 14.5%, higher than Tjd, ware, and ballo 

"Oof"

[Okram]

51 minutes ago, RaceToTheTop said:

Two years ago it projected Peyton Sparks to play more than 20 mpg and Malik Reneau to play 18 mpg

Definitely a good data point in the useless column. 

Last I looked a week or two ago, it had names for IU that I didn’t even recognize and they were getting minutes.

We turned the page and we will see what it looks like in 7 months.  All we actually know is what we are leaving behind, and for me that’s enough at the moment.  

 

[Papacap]

If our bench players couldn’t start for the national champions, what’s the point? I’m not going to get excited until whatever Torvik is says I should.

[lillurk]

18 minutes ago, go iu bb said:

Gabe Cupps and Jakai Newton were both 3* transfers on 247. How do they have Sam Alexis as a NR/0* transfer? He was more productive than either of them on a better team. lmao

https://247sports.com/player/sam-alexis-46133294/

@RaceToTheTop has a good response but it’s also a choice in methodology. I don’t know if any of the services really explain how they rank, but I know that for 247 football, they’re ranking based on potential/ceiling/projection, which makes some sense here.

Alexis is probably capped at “mid-major 2nd/3rd team and all-defense” or “high-major backup.” Cupps and Newton each have 3 years left and could conceivably get to, say, “plus high-major starter.”

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6 minutes ago, WayneFleekHoosier said:

Lol. In 11 minutes per game. You realize that stat is time based. And his coach could have played him any amount of minutes he chose. And he chose not to play him in the most Important games of the year.

He’s got some size, versatility, and probably a willing bench piece. They can’t all be starters. And that’s ok. Calling it like it is.


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Yes, agree. So how is that an "Oof" ?

I get he doesn't wow anyone but like you said they can't all be starters...

Seems like a kid who will play a limited role and help build a strong culture. That's a good thing IMO. 

[lillurk]

One note on Torvik and ceiling: if he does it anything like Pomeroy, there are minor program and coach adjustments to preseason rankings.

So e.g. the same roster UConn, DePaul, and Wisconsin-Whitewater might not be ranked identically.

All that to say there probably is a preseason ceiling for IU if there’s an adjustment based on the recent past.

[lillurk]

Like others I would be happy to see some underclassmen but I will caution everyone that I’m not sure the old way of thinking about roster building holds any more.

It would be nice to see some guys develop, and I think that with regional or in-state prospects that will still make some sense. But if IU pulls a frosh from the east coast, he plays minimally, but then Maryland is convinced he’s worth a mint after his freshman year? Well, all your development and the sunk costs of his year at IU benefit Maryland, maybe even if you’re willing to match his offer.

[WayneFleekHoosier]

Yes, agree. So how is that an "Oof" ?
I get he doesn't wow anyone but like you said they can't all be starters...
Seems like a kid who will play a limited role and help build a strong culture. That's a good thing IMO. 

Because we lack good Bigs and have limited roster space at this time. Probably after this weekend it will make more sense. Just unspectacular in a “position of need”. As a bench guy it’s cool.


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[Home Jersey]

Just now, WayneFleekHoosier said:

Because we lack good Bigs and have limited roster space at this time. Probably after this weekend it will make more sense. Just unspectacular in a “position of need”. As a bench guy it’s cool.


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Curious your thoughts on the Baba Miller and Fed x2? Anyone else you've seen us in the mix with (or not) you'd prefer?

Genuinely asking because I respect your takes. 

[Hoosierfanyuh]

6 minutes ago, WayneFleekHoosier said:

Because we lack good Bigs and have limited roster space at this time. Probably after this weekend it will make more sense. Just unspectacular in a “position of need”. As a bench guy it’s cool.


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You don’t really get to pick the order of when people commit / visit lol 

[Okram]

10 minutes ago, WayneFleekHoosier said:

I’m sure that’s the vision. Alexis isn’t Hansberry. But if I squint my eyes I can see it.


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Just looked. By rankings, Hansberry in the portal this year looks very similar to Alexis in the portal last year. Hansberry looked better offensively and Alexis defensively especially as a shot blocker.  Alexis just happened to go to the best team in the country with a bounty of big men.
 

An interesting pick up seemingly out of nowhere. Bolsters the roster a bit depth wise and fills a need.  

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[lillurk]

Old news now but I thought the Desmond Claude contact was interesting.

1. probably just due diligence

2. does indicate they probably still have quite a bit of dough to splash

3. wonder if the vision is/was a sort of Swiss Army knife 6th man.

4. more broadly, I think IU’s gonna play teams who’s best player is the best guy on the floor…but IU’s 4th or 5th best guy in most lineups doesn’t look likely to be very weak.

[Uspshoosier]

Transfer portal rankings

2024- Carlyle 15 

2025- Carlyle 313

Optics looked good in 2024 though 

[AZ Hoosier]

Just now, Uspshoosier said:

Transfer portal rankings

2024- Carlyle 15 

2025- Carlyle 313

Optics looked good in 2024 though 

Son of a b... that's gonna leave a mark.

[Scotty R]

1 hour ago, WayneFleekHoosier said:

I get sunshine pumping. But if University X put this roster together and we as Indiana fans looked at it from the outside we wouldn’t bat an eye. Doesn’t mean much, but it means something in its own right.

We clearly will need to outperform expectations for most of us to be happy.


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Can you ever show any optimism towards this program 

 

[Hardwood83]

1 hour ago, Asha’man said:

Curtis or Federico and then I think the last couple spots might go to some true freshmen. Help with some class balancing. 

That would be outstanding.