Transfer Portal w IU Interest

[68Hoosier]

26 minutes ago, Hardwood83 said:

If we start having paternity test reveals, that would be awesome! 

Harwood83, you are the father (or mother), LOL

[Hurryin' Hoosiers]

page 666.  The end is nigh

[Juwan Moye]

11 minutes ago, AH1971 said:

Maybe although I highly doubt every P5 bench player is making $600k or even close to that. 

Sure, but as a thought experiment let's assume we had $10m to build a roster this offseason. I don't know the actual number but this seems a reasonable approximation. Given some of the numbers thrown around it seems reasonable to assume we paid something like the following:

• Tucker DeVries - $2m
• Lamar Wilkerson - $2m
• Reed Bailey - $1.5m

So that's $5.5m of $10m spend leaving $4.5m left to fill out the other 9 spots that we have which would be an average of $500k per player. Given Cupps reportedly got paid $600k you can see how the budget gets eaten up quickly. If we're closer to having a $12m - $13m budget then there's some more wiggle room here but, even then, it's easy to see how we could have already spent all of the budget allotted.

[Golfman25]

5 hours ago, Uspshoosier said:

You could argue some are more concerned with the optics of how IU is perceived by the national media and other fan bases then they are actual results on the court.   Some would rather lose a close game to a national brand team like Duke then actual win a game close game where IU looks bad against a team like Northwestern.  Been that way for a while for some people.   The reality is doesn’t matter how IU is perceived next year coach DeVries is going to have to win.   He could have gotten the top 12 transfer portal guys this year or he could have gotten 200-212 ranked transfer guys in the portal and his expectation is going to be the same.   Win.  Optics would look better for some with choice 1 however expectations would be no different the door number 2.   Unimpressed or impressed with what he has done doesn’t matter just got to sit back and see if this is the year IU claws its way back to where people want it to be 

I simply want to start by regularly beating Northwestern.  And Nebraska for that matter.  :)  

[AH1971]

1 minute ago, Juwan Moye said:

Sure, but as a thought experiment let's assume we had $10m to build a roster this offseason. I don't know the actual number but this seems a reasonable approximation. Given some of the numbers thrown around it seems reasonable to assume we paid something like the following:

• Tucker DeVries - $2m
• Lamar Wilkerson - $2m
• Reed Bailey - $1.5m

So that's $5.5m of $10m spend leaving $4.5m left to fill out the other 9 spots that we have which would be an average of $500k per player. Given Cupps reportedly got paid $600k you can see how the budget gets eaten up quickly. If we're closer to having a $12m - $13m budget then there's some more wiggle room here but, even then, it's easy to see how we could have already spent all of the budget allotted.

I don't think guys like Miles, Dorn, Enright, Drake, etc went from making virtually $0 last year to making close to $600k overnight. 

I also don't buy that Gabe Cupps is making $600k next year. I would guess that end of rotation/bench guys at P5 schools are making between $150-300k. Most of this NIL valuation talk is perpetuated by agents to try and prop up their other clients. 

[Hoosierfanyuh]

Just now, AH1971 said:

I don't think guys like Miles, Dorn, Enright, Drake, etc went from making virtually $0 last year to making close to $600k overnight. 

I also don't buy that Gabe Cupps is making $600k next year. I would guess that end of rotation/bench guys at P5 schools are making between $150-300k. Most of this NIL valuation talk is perpetuated by agents to try and prop up their other clients. 

Dorn wanted money I know that was floated around 

[AH1971]

1 minute ago, Hoosierfanyuh said:

Dorn wanted money I know that was floated around 

And we very well could have overpaid to fill an entire roster which brings us back to the original point: it's much easier to spend top dollar when you have a pretty well established roster. 

[Hoosierfanyuh]

Curious who they’re alluding to 

[AH1971]

1 minute ago, Hoosierfanyuh said:

Curious who they’re alluding to 

Mullins...probably news that Karaban is coming back

[Juwan Moye]

6 minutes ago, AH1971 said:

I don't think guys like Miles, Dorn, Enright, Drake, etc went from making virtually $0 last year to making close to $600k overnight. 

I also don't buy that Gabe Cupps is making $600k next year. I would guess that end of rotation/bench guys at P5 schools are making between $150-300k. Most of this NIL valuation talk is perpetuated by agents to try and prop up their other clients. 

Fair enough that agents are propping up numbers but, to my point, we didn't go and get just 'end of the bench' guys. Conerway and Alexis are both top-100 transfers per 247 as an example. We got a lot of guys who showed meaningful production, who all likely could command reasonable NIL money, so seeing that we could have already spent $10m+ isn't that difficult.

[RaceToTheTop]

1 minute ago, AH1971 said:

Mullins...probably news that Karaban is coming back

Tyme indicates that it is not Mullins when he says he isn't Huskie related.

[Hoosierfanyuh]

3 minutes ago, AH1971 said:

Mullins...probably news that Karaban is coming back

I added the part where Tyme specifically says it’s not Mullins on purpose…. Lol

[AH1971]

Just now, RaceToTheTop said:

Tyme indicates that it is not Mullins when he says he isn't Huskie related.

Perhaps the original poster was asking about former Washington Huskie Nikola Bundalo who just de-committed?

[sirhoosierlot]

5 minutes ago, Hoosierfanyuh said:

Curious who they’re alluding to 

i tried looking who from umbc was in the portal and found nothing. then looked for players in the portal named bud and found nothing. now i'm all out of ideas. 

[Hoosierfanyuh]

2 minutes ago, AH1971 said:

Perhaps the original poster was asking about former Washington Huskie Nikola Bundalo who just de-committed?

If you see tymes response he’s clearly talking about Mullins lol 

[AH1971]

5 minutes ago, Juwan Moye said:

Fair enough that agents are propping up numbers but, to my point, we didn't go and get just 'end of the bench' guys. Conerway and Alexis are both top-100 transfers per 247 as an example. We got a lot of guys who showed meaningful production, who all likely could command reasonable NIL money, so seeing that we could have already spent $10m+ isn't that difficult.

We've signed 11 guys, there is always going to be the end of the bench...on every team. I don't think we're paying Drake, Enright, etc anywhere close to the perceived "market value" based on a rumor of what Cupps is making. 

[EasyEJay]

9 minutes ago, sirhoosierlot said:

i tried looking who from umbc was in the portal and found nothing. then looked for players in the portal named bud and found nothing. now i'm all out of ideas. 

The picture isn't some sort of clue I don't think, all the IU burners have been using pictures/GIFs of dogs when we they hear good portal news. Don't ask me why lol its become a thing for some reason. So I think he just liked this picture and has been waiting to post it after hearing some big news but again don't think the picture is a clue or alludes to whom it is just a Dog Pic we wanted to post after hearing a rumor 

[Juwan Moye]

5 minutes ago, AH1971 said:

We've signed 11 guys, there is always going to be the end of the bench...on every team. I don't think we're paying Drake, Enright, etc anywhere close to the perceived "market value" based on a rumor of what Cupps is making. 

Sure, but then you don't seem to be understanding the basic math that I laid out.

If we have 8 guys left to sign, and $4.5m of budget left, that means the AVERAGE for each guy is just north of $500k. But guys like Conerway, Alexis, Dorn etc. are likely getting paid more than that. That leaves a smaller amount, probably in that $150k-$300k range that you mentioned, for guys like Drake, Enright, etc.

Example:

• Tucker DeVries - $2m
• Lamar Wilkerson - $2m
• Reed Bailey - $1.5m
• Conerway - $1m
• Alexis - $800k
• Harris - $700k
• Dorn - $700k
• Miles - $200k
• Drake - $200k
• Enright - $200k
• Sisley - $150k
• Goode - ????

The above would put us at $9.45m. I just ordered the new transfers in by on3 rankings for the top-7.

 

[sirhoosierlot]

2 minutes ago, EasyEJay said:

The picture isn't some sort of clue I don't think, all the IU burners have been using pictures/GIFs of dogs when we they hear good portal news. Don't ask me why lol its become a thing for some reason. So I think he just liked this picture and has been waiting to post it after hearing some big news but again don't think the picture is a clue or alludes to whom it is just a Dog Pic we wanted to post after hearing a rumor 

i'm officially old 

[AH1971]

3 minutes ago, Juwan Moye said:

Sure, but then you don't seem to be understanding the basic math that I laid out.

If we have 8 guys left to sign, and $4.5m of budget left, that means the AVERAGE for each guy is just north of $500k. But guys like Conerway, Alexis, Dorn etc. are likely getting paid more than that. That leaves a smaller amount, probably in that $150k-$300k range that you mentioned, for guys like Drake, Enright, etc.

Example:

• Tucker DeVries - $2m
• Lamar Wilkerson - $2m
• Reed Bailey - $1.5m
• Conerway - $1m
• Alexis - $800k
• Harris - $700k
• Dorn - $700k
• Miles - $200k
• Drake - $200k
• Enright - $200k
• Sisley - $150k
• Goode - ????

The above would put us at $9.45m. I just ordered the new transfers in by on3 rankings for the top-7.

 

I understand the layout. DeVries and Wilkerson look about right. I think everyone from Bailey to Dorn is exaggerated anywhere from a couple hundred thousand to a half million.