They “Retired” Coach Woodson Thread

[Hornsby 2,896]

Didn’t go cheap on football.

We shall see after the last two hires I've learned never to get my hopes up on an iu bbal hire. It's usually a massive letdown.

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[go iu bb 7,254]

1 minute ago, Hornsby said:

I know how the buyout works and I expect quinn to give him more than the buyout

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You also claimed to know what a Ponzi scheme is even though you didn't.

You're always excessively negative. You've said both that Woodson will get saved by lame duck Buckner for a 5th year and that he'll get paid more than his contract if he is let go. Neither will happen. 

[Scotty R 2,647]

46 minutes ago, Home Jersey said:

I don’t think it’s likely (at all) that we pry May from Michigan after one year, but I wouldn’t say that it’s a complete and total long shot. Not exactly apples to apples, but Roy Williams left Kansas for UNC… so… never say never.

Williams was at KU for over 15 years and had already turned UNC down once before taking the job.

[Scotty R 2,647]

30 minutes ago, Hornsby said:

The atmosphere will be electric tonight with the king roaming the sideline. Can't wait. Maybe his buddy who wears the Woody hat will be behind the bench.

 

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Dolson didn't go cheap on the football hire and have already extended more money to the program 

[Brass Cannon 25,150]

19 minutes ago, MemphisHoosier said:

See Brad Underwood leaving Ok State after one season as well...

Man remember when people were unhappy with that hire at Illinois and jealous of our hire 

[Home Jersey 10,724]

3 minutes ago, Scotty R said:

Williams was at KU for over 15 years and had already turned UNC down once before taking the job.

I said not exactly apples to apples Scotty :)

[Hoosierfan1901 6,649]

Just now, Brass Cannon said:

Man remember when people were unhappy with that hire at Illinois and jealous of our hire 

Interesting times…but what would Ok State look like today with Underwood?

[Scotty R 2,647]

Just now, Home Jersey said:

I said not exactly apples to apples Scotty :)

It isn't even apples to oranges

[Scotty R 2,647]

Just now, Hoosierfan1901 said:

Interesting times…but what would Ok State look like today with Underwood?

If I remember correctly wasn't OK St being investigated by the NCAA and that was a big reason for that Underwood left

[Home Jersey 10,724]

Just now, Scotty R said:

It isn't even apples to oranges

Sure it is. UNC was Roy's alma mater, IU is Dusty's.

Is that enough to amount to apples and oranges? Satisfied? Lol

[Scotty R 2,647]

1 minute ago, Home Jersey said:

Sure it is. UNC was Roy's alma mater, IU is Dusty's.

Is that enough to amount to apples and oranges? Satisfied? Lol

I am saying it is a lot different because of the amount of time Williams spent at KU compared to the one year May has spent at UM. It was easier for Williams to leave thinking he has done his job at KU and was time for Jim to go back home

[coonhounds 9,735]

I think brad Steven's is more likely than Dusty! Dusty probably has a low buyout because michigan isn't stupid and knew he was a small gamble. Given he is having success in imagine if that continues a new contract will be done by end of February early March with a much higher buyout and compensation. Iu had a chance and that was last season! Michigan basketball is a elite program and if you succeed there you will be taken care of imo. No way he throws that away to come into this mess. Mess might not describe accurately how bad our situation is

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[Solsberryberries 56]

If I’m the Michigan AD, I’m trying to renegotiate Dusty’s contract mid-season.  There’s a lot of angles to look at Dusty’s buyout.  Was it Dusty who wanted a low buyout or Michigan?  I’m guessing they’re going to push for a longer term contract, with more incentives with a higher buyout more comparable to what Alabama has with Oats.

Here’s to wishing that Dolson does have a “close” relationship with Dusty and some of these conversations are happening.

That said, everything I have heard is Dusty loves Michigan and has no desire to leave.  What else would he say to people back home?

[Home Jersey 10,724]

Just now, Scotty R said:

I am saying it is a lot different because of the amount of time Williams spent at KU compared to the one year May has spent at UM. It was easier for Williams to leave thinking he has done his job at KU and was time for Jim to go back home

We are agreeing Scott lol.

I started by saying it's not likely at all and ended with "never say never" ... neither of us think he's coming to IU right now. 

Just sayin, not totally impossible. Don't overthink it... the simpleton you're talking to here sure doesn't :)

[AZ Hoosier 8,640]

1 hour ago, Home Jersey said:

I don’t think it’s likely (at all) that we pry May from Michigan after one year, but I wouldn’t say that it’s a complete and total long shot. Not exactly apples to apples, but Roy Williams left Kansas for UNC… so… never say never.

And there's absolutely no way we land May if we don't ask... make him say "no".

[AZ Hoosier 8,640]

47 minutes ago, Hornsby said:

Michigan will give him whatever he wants assuming he has a good year. Iu will spend all it's money getting rid of the king and go cheap imo. It's the iu way.

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Dolson can negotiate the buyout down... and the max hit is $1M/year... slow, drawn out payout... or... he could offer a lump sum lower amount ($8M at $1M/year OR $3M today and we're done)... Dolson has options.

[Hoosierfan1901 6,649]

12 minutes ago, Scotty R said:

If I remember correctly wasn't OK St being investigated by the NCAA and that was a big reason for that Underwood left

I doubled checked and looks like Underwood dipped because his lead assistant was charged with bribery by the FBI. 

[AZ Hoosier 8,640]

8 minutes ago, coonhounds said:

I think brad Steven's is more likely than Dusty! Dusty probably has a low buyout because michigan isn't stupid and knew he was a small gamble. Given he is having success in imagine if that continues a new contract will be done by end of February early March with a much higher buyout and compensation. Iu had a chance and that was last season! Michigan basketball is a elite program and if you succeed there you will be taken care of imo. No way he throws that away to come into this mess. Mess might not describe accurately how bad our situation is

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And it's possible that Dolson reaches out via back channels and gets a "handshake" agreement with May's people before Michigan can extend... no matter who are on Dolson's list, you can bet the farm that Dolson is already engaging those guys at some level.

[JSHoosier 21,097]

1 hour ago, Class of '66 Old Fart said:

Woody has set a low bar so even Red Klotz (RIP) would be an upgrade.

Dale Brown would look down the sideline, see Woodson,  and realize he has a chance. 

[Hornsby 2,896]

It is really quite cruel the big ten makes the king coach a bbal game the day after new years. He should be in Vegas playing craps and smoking cigars.

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