They “Retired” Coach Woodson Thread

[Hoosier DaDa 3,579]

2 hours ago, Stuhoo said:

Would succeed damn near anywhere. And he's 52 years old. 

If we could get Buzz Williams at IU I would be completely satisfied, elated, optimistic, sky-high happy. Yay Buzz!! only downside is that he would be really expensive - would take $7-8 million a year salary and has a $13.4 million buyout.

Would be a  very good day, but he's kinda sorta starting to age out of being a long-term solution.

he is 52 right?  Where you talking abut long-term solution in regards to age?

[MikeRoberts 7,767]

5 minutes ago, Uspshoosier said:

Evidently not long enough to have fun with a running joke on BTB.   Yep Wade would probably kill it here and when he was at VCU in the college basketball thread I probably pointed out how much at the time I liked him and keep an eye on him.   Ran good stuff and won some games because of his coaching.   And then he went to LSU and his personality changed and he got cockier and got caught on tape offering big a.. offers.  Became a total slime ball and from that point on I hope he loses every single game and when he does lose he has a nice Crean Gif waiting for him 

Not going to change anyone’s opinion I’m sure but big @$$ offers have been going on across CBB and CFB for decades, he was just unfortunate enough to get caught. Not sure why anyone cares about that, it essentially became legal a few years later but to think he was some rogue rule breaker isn’t true

[AH1971 2,409]

Just now, Stuhoo said:

Coach incorporates more than just win/loss record, although that's a major component.

If you really think that Will Wade is a better choice to lead this program than McCasland, Devries, Brownell, or Micah? You are absolutely entitled to that opinion but I couldn't disagree more.

If we're simply talking basketball acumen and potential ceilings at IU, Wade blows every single one of those guys out of the water. Brad Brownell? Seriously?

[Stuhoo 86,584]

Just now, Hoosier DaDa said:

he is 52 right?  Where you talking abut long-term solution in regards to age?

That's 15 years if it went well.

[JSHoosier 21,937]

3 minutes ago, Muskie plays the four said:

If we had gotten  Luke Brown  we wouldn't be in this mess. 

We might not be in this mess if we made a serious hire 4 years ago instead of seeing the lack if competition for Woodson as a green flag.

[Kentuckysucks 3,877]

I totally understand why some here don’t want Wade or Beard.  I get it.  But outside of those 2 and Brad I really think everyone else is a total crapshoot.  I’d be shocked if any of those 3 just mentioned didn’t win big here.

Lets hope Brad is finally ready to come home.

[Stuhoo 86,584]

4 minutes ago, AH1971 said:

If we're simply talking basketball acumen and potential ceilings at IU, Wade blows every single one of those guys out of the water. Brad Brownell? Seriously?

But we're not just talking about strong-@$$ basketball acumen; what about as a program leader? Lots of guys have a strong-@$$ winning percentage.

In my opinion, anyone in Hoosier Nation who could relate to Will Wade would also have to be able to relate to complete smug-smarmy-ness. I suppose there are fans out there who would buy into that, but every year there are so many good choices without that strong-@$$ awfulness.

[AH1971 2,409]

2 minutes ago, RaceToTheTop said:

Wow, that's great.  Wonder how with all that coaching accumon how he ended up at McNeese State.

Because he was serving a 2 year show-cause and sat out part of his first season. He won't be there after this season. McNeese State is 46-9 since Will Wade was hired...they had two winning seasons in the 20 years prior.

[AH1971 2,409]

1 minute ago, Stuhoo said:

And what about as a program leader? Lots of guys have a strong-@$$ winning percentage.

In my opinion, anyone in Hoosier Nation who could relate to Will Wade would also have to be able to relate to complete smug-smarmy-ness. I suppose there are fans out there who would buy into that, but every year there are so many good choices without that strong-@$$ awfulness.

Strong-@$$ offers is literally the name of the game in college basketball these days. And he's one of the best at it. Dude is a flat out winner. That's who I want leading this program, not some nice guy I want at my backyard bbq.

[Hoosier DaDa 3,579]

1 minute ago, Stuhoo said:

That's 15 years if it went well.

 15 years of making the tournament and making some runs (maybe banners) sounds like Utopia.  Of course we would not have our fire coach so and so thread which is very entertaining.  HMMMMMMMMM...which one sounds better :)

[Home Jersey 13,420]

1 minute ago, Kentuckysucks said:

I totally understand why some here don’t want Wade or Beard.  I get it.  But outside of those 2 and Brad I really think everyone else is a total crapshoot.  I’d be shocked if any of those 3 just mentioned didn’t win big here.

Lets hope Brad is finally ready to come home.

I can't do Beard, but I can definitely bring myself to get behind Will Wade. 

What he did at LSU is not a concern anymore and while a d-bag... he wins big. That's good enough for me at this point. 

Doesn't feel like a personality fit at all though, so doubt we seriously pursue him.

I have more hope for Stevens than I ever did, but still a long shot of course.

Hoping we can strike gold with a young up and comer, if it comes to that. 

[Stuhoo 86,584]

2 minutes ago, AH1971 said:

Because he was serving a 2 year show-cause and sat out part of his first season. He won't be there after this season. McNeese State is 46-9 since Will Wade was hired...they had two winning seasons in the 20 years prior.

For an organization as weak-@$$ as the NCAA, that's a strong-@$$ penalty.

 

[Uspshoosier 51,928]

11 minutes ago, IU22 said:

Why?

 Because I don’t like him and have no interest in being invested in a program he is coaching 

[Uspshoosier 51,928]

8 minutes ago, MikeRoberts said:

Not going to change anyone’s opinion I’m sure but big @$$ offers have been going on across CBB and CFB for decades, he was just unfortunate enough to get caught. Not sure why anyone cares about that, it essentially became legal a few years later but to think he was some rogue rule breaker isn’t true

My dislike for him started with his personality change and how he acted at LSU before all of that.   I don’t like him and probably never will 

[AH1971 2,409]

1 minute ago, Stuhoo said:

For an organization as weak-@$$ as the NCAA, that's a strong-@$$ penalty.

 

Powerless in todays world.

Will Wade would absolutely kill it at IU in this climate. Thick-skinned, doesn't give a s*** what people think, flat-out winner. But yeah let's hire Brad Brownell because he's a pro's pro whose never won anything. If Brad Brownell was from across the river in Henderson KY instead of Evansville he'd be an after thought. 

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2 minutes ago, AH1971 said:

Because he was serving a 2 year show-cause and sat out part of his first season. He won't be there after this season. McNeese State is 46-9 since Will Wade was hired...they had two winning seasons in the 20 years prior.

Wade would be great, but yeah it's just not gonna happen. Way too many IU fans want to pretend to have a beer with the IU coach than actually have a winning program. What's really bizarre is that what IU fans describe what they seem to want, Tom Crean essentially was, and he was ran out of town.

[BleedCubbieBlue 1,867]

24 minutes ago, AH1971 said:

I'm fully aware of his past transgressions. It's a complete non-starter for me given the circumstances and current nature of the sport.

He's served out his punishment and has earned a second chance. 

We all get it. You are his agent. I would suggest talking to Scott Dolson about this rather than advocating for your client on a message board.

[RaceToTheTop 29,290]

10 minutes ago, Golfman25 said:

I'll just say this.  Any coach who has been accused/guilty of breaking NCAA rules (especially under the table payments) should now get a pass for that transgression -- as there are no longer any NCAA rules.  Other legal and/or women issues, not so much -- don't need the headaches.  

Will Wade's teams have finished in the top 25 exactly ONCE.  

There is a reason that Chris Beard's transgressions only dropped him a lower power 5 team and Will Wade's dropped him into a low major.  The funny thing that AH thinks the world of Will Wade but guess who didn't come calling for Will Wade when their spots opened up last off-season?  Drake didn't.  St.Louis didn't.  Wade sure as heck isn't going to have his next stop be a high major.

[Stuhoo 86,584]

10 minutes ago, Uspshoosier said:

 Because I don’t like him and have no interest in being invested in a program he is coaching 

Damn straight.

I also have no interest rooting for an IU program led by:

• Dave Bliss
• Perry Clark
• Kim Anderson
• Todd Bozeman
• Jerome Allen, or
• Mike Rice

Other than Bliss and maybe Mike Rice, Will Wade may be known as the most corrupt coach in the entire history of college basketball. And we have people posting that he would be a good choice for IU?!!? Dear lord.

[AH1971 2,409]

2 minutes ago, VFury said:

Wade would be great, but yeah it's just not gonna happen. Way too many IU fans want to pretend to have a beer with the IU coach than actually have a winning program. What's really bizarre is that what IU fans describe what they seem to want, Tom Crean essentially was, and he was ran out of town.

The fact that Dolson identified Fitzgerald as his first target at least gives me some hope. His alleged transgressions are way worse than anything Wade has been guilty of.