Fire Coach Woodson Thread

[IUFAN1976 3,538]

1 hour ago, Trish said:

Fans need to stop attending games, stop supporting NIL, stop listening to Hoosier Hysterics. That stuff could add up if Dolson is too scared to make a move. 

I thought about that but probably won’t happen 

[Golfman25 5,772]

19 minutes ago, IUFAN1976 said:

Well said but how long is it going to take?  Us older guys aren’t getting any younger and we would like to see it in our lifetime, hopefully 

Well I am encouraged by the Cignetti hire.  He fits a lot of those characteristics.  Hopefully they get this next one right.  

[IUFAN1976 3,538]

2 hours ago, tkbbn said:

Then Quinn better start dumping some major money into NIL, we need elite talent to compete. Our coaching isn't going to cut it.

He needs talented players in order to mask  his deficiencies of coaching 

[AZ Hoosier 7,709]

1 hour ago, Trish said:

Fans need to stop attending games, stop supporting NIL, stop listening to Hoosier Hysterics. That stuff could add up if Dolson is too scared to make a move. 

Calling for a boycott?

Since I don't live anywhere near Bloomington any longer, I haven't attended a game in probably 10 years... but I have stopped wearing my IU shirts, sweatshirts and caps... haven't bought any since Woodson was hired, and won't be buying any more until he's gone.

[Trish 11,713]

38 minutes ago, AZ Hoosier said:

Calling for a boycott?

Since I don't live anywhere near Bloomington any longer, I haven't attended a game in probably 10 years... but I have stopped wearing my IU shirts, sweatshirts and caps... haven't bought any since Woodson was hired, and won't be buying any more until he's gone.

I don’t think it would ever happen. But if a combination of some stuff of a boycott were to happen, that might help Dolson out. 

[Hornsby 2,254]

Fans need to stop attending games, stop supporting NIL, stop listening to Hoosier Hysterics. That stuff could add up if Dolson is too scared to make a move. 

They won't though I think even in creans first season the place was packed.

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[AZ Hoosier 7,709]

15 minutes ago, Hornsby said:

They won't though I think even in creans first season the place was packed.

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That situation was completely different. IU had just fallen on it's sword, and in the minds of the Hoosier fans, it was the only move - to move on from the evil Kelvin Sampson and help the Hoosiers rebuild...

This time we're dealing with an administration that is bent on keeping a mediocre (at best) coach who played here 40+ years ago. There's no "recovery", and it's all about posturing... 

I sincerely doubt any attempt at a boycott will work, but where we are now is NOT where we were then. We need to send the message to Dolson, Whitten and Buckner...

[IUFAN1976 3,538]

1 hour ago, Golfman25 said:

Well I am encouraged by the Cignetti hire.  He fits a lot of those characteristics.  Hopefully they get this next one right.  

One could only hope!  
 

Go 49ers!!!

[Hornsby 2,254]

That situation was completely different. IU had just fallen on it's sword, and in the minds of the Hoosier fans, it was the only move - to move on from the evil Kelvin Sampson and help the Hoosiers rebuild...
This time we're dealing with an administration that is bent on keeping a mediocre (at best) coach who played here 40+ years ago. There's no "recovery", and it's all about posturing... 
I sincerely doubt any attempt at a boycott will work, but where we are now is NOT where we were then. We need to send the message to Dolson, Whitten and Buckner...

Agreed but I just still see on Twitter plenty making excuses for woodson.

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[southernindianahoosier2 902]

5 hours ago, Golfman25 said:

You're a young one.  Some of the old guys have wisdom.  None of those - uniforms, non-con, facilities, etc. aren't the issues.  The issue is finding a coach that can:

A)  Attract talent

B)  coach them up and develop them

C)  Put together an offensive and defensive strategy that uses the interchangeable parts common in college ball and wins games

D)  Hates to lose more than he wants to be right.    

Coach Knight, which most of the still living old guys grew up with epitomized this.  He wasn't the type of coach all players liked (his misses are infamous).  But he was able to bring them in.  Teach them basketball.  Ran a system that emphasized their strengths and minimized their weaknesses (he won with all different types of players).  Take a team and make it greater than the sum of its parts.  For the most part, he adapted and did what it took to win (except for the later years).  Got the 87 Championship with 2 community college transfers -- not something you saw a lot back in the day.  And he did it while getting most players to graduate -- which in the 80-90s was a national scandal the way college athletes failed to get degrees.  (Bob Huggins, for example, had seasons where no players graduated and an overalll 28% rate at Cinn).  

Since his dismissal, we haven't found the guy with all the traits.  Sampson was closest.  Maybe that guy exists.  Maybe we'll find him one day.   

I’m not saying any of what you said is wrong… I’m saying that in order for A, then B then C to happen we have to update our program, whether that be a uniform collaboration, barbershop in the practice facility, etc. 

even if it makes a 5% difference, maybe that’s enough to land Timberlake, Knecht, Boogie, or a few other guards. 
 

IU’s brand has been deathed by 1000 paper cuts, everything about it is stale…
 

[Golfman25 5,772]

6 hours ago, southernindianahoosier2 said:

I’m not saying any of what you said is wrong… I’m saying that in order for A, then B then C to happen we have to update our program, whether that be a uniform collaboration, barbershop in the practice facility, etc. 

even if it makes a 5% difference, maybe that’s enough to land Timberlake, Knecht, Boogie, or a few other guards. 
 

IU’s brand has been deathed by 1000 paper cuts, everything about it is stale…
 

Yawn. All that is noise.  Just win baby.  

[HooHooHoo22 3,902]

At one point I was so immersed in IU basketball. It was Family, Friends, IUBB. Eventually I felt like I cared more about the program than the program itself. I took a big step back once Archie couldn’t get it together. I was hopeful for the Woodson hire but had a feeling it would be the same crap all over again. My favorite part about the program in recent years, has been the firing and hiring a new coach. At least there’s some excitement and a chance at figuring this thing out. What sucks is seeing all the programs that have got it together while we sit here in shambles. Make it make sense !! 

[str8baller 5,530]

40 minutes ago, HooHooHoo22 said:

My favorite part about the program in recent years, has been the firing and hiring a new coach.

If by recent years you mean the 21st Century, then yes. 

[Chris007 45,864]

Has anyone been fired yet? I keep coming back and checking. Do we think it will happen the day after the last game or when? I need some advanced notice so I can get ready to follow the new coach. 

[IUc2016 7,121]

8 minutes ago, Chris007 said:

Has anyone been fired yet? I keep coming back and checking. Do we think it will happen the day after the last game or when? I need some advanced notice so I can get ready to follow the new coach. 

Hoosier hystERIC says no chance. 

[JF87 1,535]

7 minutes ago, Chris007 said:

Has anyone been fired yet? I keep coming back and checking. Do we think it will happen the day after the last game or when? I need some advanced notice so I can get ready to follow the new coach. 

Nope.  Hoping for a retirement after year 4. 

[Chris007 45,864]

4 minutes ago, IUc2016 said:

Hoosier hystERIC says no chance. 

I read that. Sounds like he is saying that an assistant is going to get the axe.

[Chris007 45,864]

1 minute ago, JF87 said:

Nope.  Hoping for a retirement after year 4. 

Maybe we can have a former players intervention 

[IUc2016 7,121]

18 minutes ago, Chris007 said:

I read that. Sounds like he is saying that an assistant is going to get the axe.

Not that I disagree with him, but doesn't most of his info come from the staff?

Like did he ask them if they thought they were getting fired? Of course they said no chance lol

[Class of '66 Old Fart 85,690]

15 minutes ago, Chris007 said:

Maybe we can have a former players intervention 

Well, if it's by Buckner, Wittman and Zeke, probably not a good idea.