IUBB @ Michigan State - Tuesday, 2/21/23 @ 9:00 on ESPN

[GloryDays 5,994]

16 minutes ago, HoosierFan1994 said:

At one point IU had just made a layup and Michigan State responded and he said "Michigan State on an 8-0 run". People make mistakes but I don't like it when it's that obvious. 

 They also said Trace was one of the Bigs best shot blockers.

Pretty sure he's clearly the best

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2 hours ago, Chris007 said:

Because we have to talk about someone. The starters look tired, Bates and Geronimo are playing terrible so Banks is next.

I think his ceiling is higher than either of those two.Not ready for prime time yet.

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20 minutes ago, str8baller said:

There’s no yogi to get into the lane and draw help defenders and that space around the basket is inhabited by our best player anyways.  

And Crean had a completely different offensive system and more shooters. Yogi, Zeisloft, Rob, Max... That 15-16 team was built for Crean. Same with the 12-13 team. But even the 11-12 team had 3 snipers in Hulls, Watford and Roth. 

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TJD looked extremely tired last night and was a step behind all night, IMO.
I had a feeling going into the game, we would lose. Our bench has get to get better now that we are in the stretch run. JG was playing well until his last injury.

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[IUFAN1976 4,128]

Our bench was playing well earlier in the season but over the last several games, especially on the road, our bench has been terrible!  
 

JG was playing well up until Race came back.  Bates I can’t figure out!  Reneau is a freshman 

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Does the staff not have any game tape of Troy Williams to show JG what he could do?
His whole offense was cutting straight to the basket on the baseline and dunking a lob from Yogi, no reason Geronimo can't be good for a few of those per game.

Even bad Troy could catch. JG has hands of ice, he cannot handle simple passes

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9 hours ago, normandale97 said:

If both are back next year it will be very surprising

Surprising to whom? It wouldn't surprise me nor any of my IU friends.

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10 hours ago, kreigh8 said:

Devils advocate, but why would Geronimo return

As I said, he will likely be a starter. Plus Geronimo and Woodson may have become close. People on the outside have no idea what is going on inside the locker room, though some claim they do.

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2 hours ago, Loaded Chicken Sandwich said:

And Crean had a completely different offensive system and more shooters. Yogi, Zeisloft, Rob, Max... That 15-16 team was built for Crean. Same with the 12-13 team. But even the 11-12 team had 3 snipers in Hulls, Watford and Roth. 

The 11-12 and 12-13 team also had Remy Abell -- he wasn't a volume shooter, but he was a solid shooter.  And then in 12-13, Oladipo became a shooter.

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5 hours ago, Chris007 said:

Because we have to talk about someone. The starters look tired, Bates and Geronimo are playing terrible so Banks is next.

Most popular guys are guys who aren't playing.  About this time last year people were wanting to know why wouldn't get a shooter like Anthony Leal on the floor.

[HoosierHoopster 7,314]

10 minutes ago, Honkyman said:

As I said, he will likely be a starter. Plus Geronimo and Woodson may have become close. People on the outside have no idea what is going on inside the locker room, though some claim they do.

We need shooting (again) and improvement on the wing, and I expect we’ll see some in a transfer, but if JHS comes back I’d look forward to a Malik-JG front ct with Banks and Gunn pushing minutes. Give me toughness, boards and athleticism up front. 

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24 minutes ago, Honkyman said:

Surprising to whom? It wouldn't surprise me nor any of my IU friends.

I would say I would be surprised if JHS is back

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9 minutes ago, HoosierHoopster said:

We need shooting (again) and improvement on the wing, and I expect we’ll see some in a transfer, but if JHS comes back I’d look forward to a Malik-JG front ct with Banks and Gunn pushing minutes. Give me toughness, boards and athleticism up front. 

For me I will be surprised if Geronimo is back next year. He has flirted with leaving the last two years and now his minutes has dwindled even more I don't see him coming back. I think him and Tamar will look to transferbut I hope I am wrong 

 

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1 minute ago, Scotty R said:

For me I will be surprised if Geronimo is back next year. He has flirted with leaving the last two years and now his minutes has dwindled even more I don't see him coming back. I think him and Tamar will look to transferbut I hope I am wrong 

 

The flirted with leaving stuff is just board talk. He excelled and was playing good minutes (including 30) when Race was out. Hasn’t shown well since injury return but still a lot of games to play, and he’s a starter next season. No one here knows what his mindset is, but he isn’t hanging his head on the bench he’s engaged. We’ll see

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20 hours ago, Trish said:

Bates transferring this off-season should be on everyone’s bingo’s card. 

Why?  As awful as he has been he is still playing a ton of minutes and loves it here. Now why CMW continues to give him a lot of minutes is my question.  He has one skill (scoring) and he’s not doing that.  He shouldn’t be on the court.

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12 minutes ago, HoosierHoopster said:

The flirted with leaving stuff is just board talk. He excelled and was playing good minutes (including 30) when Race was out. Hasn’t shown well since injury return but still a lot of games to play, and he’s a starter next season. No one here knows what his mindset is, but he isn’t hanging his head on the bench he’s engaged. We’ll see

Didn't he out his name in tbe portal 

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1 minute ago, IU - Kaulie said:

Why?  As awful as he has been he is still playing a ton of minutes and loves it here. Now why CMW continues to give him a lot of minutes is my question.  He has one skill (scoring) and he’s not doing that.  He shouldn’t be on the court.

I wonder if he would want to be closer to his family especially having a daughter 

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6 hours ago, normandale97 said:

I’m not sure why people are talking about Banks and his defense. He’s been a pretty bad defender in almost every scenario he has played…especially in the big10. He’s consistently lost and out of position. Woody gave him a run against a Purdue and he gave up 2 baskets and missed a dunk/layup in a very short stretch. Also, was in for the horrible stretch against Illinois Saturday. He’s just not there as a big10 caliber player right now and his lack of minutes reflect that.  His plus/minus is one of the worst on the team. He is shooting 40% in conference play and most shots are inside 5 feet. I guess I’m watching a different game than most others besides the coaches. 

Banks has been really good in his limited minutes.  He came in and immediately contested a couple shots and forced a charge.  He has a knack for being around the ball and making plays.  He has shown he can shoot and drive to the bucket.

He is a better basketball player than Geronimo right now and should be getting minutes.  I think the reason he isn’t is because CMW is maybe a little stubborn in how much he value he places on upperclassmen even if they aren’t playing well (see Bates).  He deserves minutes based on his play and I hope the second half indicates maybe he will.  Gunn had a chance earlier this year and didn’t really impress but Banks has.

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58 minutes ago, Honkyman said:

As I said, he will likely be a starter. Plus Geronimo and Woodson may have become close. People on the outside have no idea what is going on inside the locker room, though some claim they do.

Lord help us if he becomes a starter, he can’t even produce consistently in the role he is in, which leads me to believe he has never accepted his role

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36 minutes ago, Scotty R said:

I think him and Tamar will look to transferbut I hope I am wrong 

Pretty pessimistic view of Coach Woodson's ability to hold his team together, imo.