*RANT HERE*

[Scotty R]

4 minutes ago, Ryno6284 said:

People keep saying this, but he was never found guilty of it!  What happened to innocent until proven guilty?  And don't give me all the BS she had the proof on her crap.  For all we know it was weird sex kinks and when she sobered up, realized she didn't want it publicized?

So how did she get the bruises around her neck and the bite marks. It is a classic problem of the victim being to scared to press charges. If you watch enough Dateline or 48 hours you see these kind of cases all the time. The women is to scared to press charges or has no other place to go. The scary part about of the times it ends in tragedy.

[Ryno6284]

Just now, Scotty R said:

So how did she get the bruises around her neck and the bite marks. It is a classic problem of the victim being to scared to press charges. If you watch enough Dateline or 48 hours you see these kind of cases all the time. The women is to scared to press charges or has no other place to go. The scary part about of the times it ends in tragedy.

Did you read my last sentence?

[Scotty R]

6 minutes ago, IUFAN1976 said:

I get that, but now it’s allowed.  

What does that have to do with it because it was illegal when he committed the violations 

[IndyResident16]

7 minutes ago, Scotty R said:

So how did she get the bruises around her neck and the bite marks. It is a classic problem of the victim being to scared to press charges. If you watch enough Dateline or 48 hours you see these kind of cases all the time. The women is to scared to press charges or has no other place to go. The scary part about of the times it ends in tragedy.

The victim doesn’t have the authority to drop charges in domestic violence cases, the state does. The charges weren’t dropped because she told the prosecution too. 

[southernindianahoosier2]

2 hours ago, Scotty R said:

If you left no one would miss you. I haven't been sunshine pumper lately and think we need a new coach but I know you that will not happen after this year. No matter who is the next coach if they start off the same as Woodson the fans will turn in that coach as well. It has been a rinse and repeat for 25 years.

I think our fan base can be the best thing for IU and the worst thing as well. Nationally our fan base is a joke because of our unrealistic expectations. I still think the negativity of this fan base has hurt recruiting and the caliber of coaching candidate we can get. Everyone blames the coaches, AD's, the BOT and the president of IU for the basketball program failures. We have changed all of these positions 4 or 5 times but it hasn't changed a thing. Maybe this fan base needs to look in the mirror and try to change some

Every time we have a vacancy in the presidents office we then decide to make a change at the AD position. So who is hiring these AD’s? I believe glass was hired by Gonso. Who hired Dolson? Who REALLY hired Woodson? Was it Buckner?

I want to point out that this program has dysfunction starting at who ever is making the decisions on hiring the AD, the AD,  the coach, even now the players and trickles all the way down to the smallest things in the program. (Why don’t we  have script Indiana uniforms? … it’s complete dysfunction even with the apparel and gear… why do 30% of fans wear buffalo related gear yet IU refuses to cash in on that? That’s money left on the table…)

This is a complete systemic rot at every level

Literally we can’t hire the right AD, because of that we can’t hire the right coach.

The university continues to gaslight the fans. It is a complete lie to push the narrative that the fans are the reason a coach can’t be successful here. Show me a program that has hired Mike Davis, Crean, Archie and Woodson in succession and literally anyone who watches basketball would say “ya none of those guys are gonna lead IU to a title”

Did you know that there are coaches that have fireside chats that provide transparency to their fans? 
 

The lack of Transparency and Accountability within the university and then to deflect and gaslight the fan base…If I’m the AD, I’m telling Mike Woodson to address the fan base on how he’s planning on eliminating ejections and the taking of long 2’s… is that too much to ask for????

this program refuses to listen to the fanbase. They are stuck in their ivory towers with a holier than thou smugness with zero regard to adapting their product to the consumer base.

If your customer base says  “we no longer want to pay late video rental fees, and would rather stream” and as a business owner you say “our customer's are toxic, we’re not gonna change” then you are blockbuster and you’re out of business….At Indiana you get a raise…

[Banksyrules]

2 minutes ago, IndyResident16 said:

The victim doesn’t have a say in dropping charges in domestic violence cases, the state does. The charges weren’t dropped because she told the prosecution too. 

Dude don't do this. Mods listen I'm happy not to talk about this but each time stuff like this pops up I have to say something.  Of course they have to drop the charges. When you lose the testimony of the victim it kind of makes it hard buddy. sheesh. 

[IndyResident16]

23 minutes ago, southernindianahoosier2 said:

Every time we have a vacancy in the presidents office we then decide to make a change at the AD position. So who is hiring these AD’s? I believe glass was hired by Gonso. Who hired Dolson? Who REALLY hired Woodson? Was it Buckner?

I want to point out that this program has dysfunction starting at who ever is making the decisions on hiring the AD, the AD,  the coach, even now the players and trickles all the way down to the smallest things in the program. (Why don’t we  have script Indiana uniforms? … it’s complete dysfunction even with the apparel and gear… why do 30% of fans wear buffalo related gear yet IU refuses to cash in on that? That’s money left on the table…)

This is a complete systemic rot at every level

Literally we can’t hire the right AD, because of that we can’t hire the right coach.

The university continues to gaslight the fans. It is a complete lie to push the narrative that the fans are the reason a coach can’t be successful here. Show me a program that has hired Mike Davis, Crean, Archie and Woodson in succession and literally anyone who watches basketball would say “ya none of those guys are gonna lead IU to a title”

Did you know that there are coaches that have fireside chats that provide transparency to their fans? 
 

The lack of Transparency and Accountability within the university and then to deflect and gaslight the fan base…If I’m the AD, I’m telling Mike Woodson to address the fan base on how he’s planning on eliminating ejections and the taking of long 2’s… is that too much to ask for????

this program refuses to listen to the fanbase. They are stuck in their ivory towers with a holier than thou smugness with zero regard to adapting their product to the consumer base.

If your customer base says  “we no longer want to pay late video rental fees, and would rather stream” and as a business owner you say “our customer's are toxic, we’re not gonna change” then you are blockbuster and you’re out of business….At Indiana you get a raise…

Another person who gets it. How many times have Carolina, Kentucky, or Kansas made a bad hire? And when they do, it doesn’t take 20+ years to fix it. Their AD’s also aren’t buffoons either…

[IndyResident16]

2 minutes ago, Banksyrules said:

Dude don't do this. Mods listen I'm happy not to talk about this but each time stuff like this pops up I have to say something.  Of course they have to drop the charges. When you lose the testimony of the victim it kind of makes it hard buddy. sheesh. 

But that’s not what Scott said lol. He said she decided not to press charges against Beard, that’s not at all how it works. Of course her lack of cooperation played a part, but Scott doesn’t know that.

signed,

Somebody with a law degree

[Banksyrules]

Just now, IndyResident16 said:

But that’s not what Scott said lol. He said she decided not to press charges, that’s not at all how it works.

signed,

Somebody with a law degree

Obviously you don't understand the world women live in.  Again the law is so far behind the curve with domestic abuse. Just go to any evidence locker and look at all the unopened rape kits.  Grow up man. 

[IndyResident16]

5 minutes ago, Banksyrules said:

Obviously you don't understand the world women live in.  Again the law is so far behind the curve with domestic abuse. Just go to any evidence locker and look at all the unopened rape kits.  Grow up man. 

Jfc I was literally correcting a false statement made by another individual. I have no interest in discussing anything else you said as it is irrelevant to this thread. Not the time or place.

[go iu bb]

It doesn't matter why the charges were dropped, Facial Hair isn't going to coach at IU.

[Hornsby]

It doesn't matter why the charges were dropped, Facial Hair isn't going to coach at IU.

She could come out tomorrow and say she made it all up and iu still would not touch him. Iu will only hire holier than thou guys who in our case lead the nation in flagrant fouls.

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[Napleshoosier]

54 minutes ago, Scotty R said:

I am an old guard fan and would never want a women beater coaching my team

How sure are you that he actually did that?  Before accusing him. Do you really know what happened?  No you DONT!  WTF!

[Banksyrules]

2 minutes ago, Napleshoosier said:

How sure are you that he actually did that?  Before accusing him. Do you really know what happened?  No you DONT!  WTF!

somebody seems sensitive.  

[Napleshoosier]

4 minutes ago, Banksyrules said:

somebody seems sensitive.  

Somebody gets tired of blanket accusations .  Like “ Woody sucks”. Or “ we suck”. How about what?  I’m getting tired of immature BS.  Grow up!

[Banksyrules]

9 minutes ago, Napleshoosier said:

Somebody gets tired of blanket accusations .  Like “ Woody sucks”. Or “ we suck”. How about what?  I’m getting tired of immature BS.  Grow up!

are you looking at your tag line? I'm not the one that has to grow up especially from someone who clearly did not read into the Beard case. 

[Napleshoosier]

1 minute ago, Banksyrules said:

are you looking at you tag line? I'm not the one that has to grow up especially from someone who clearly did not read into the Beard case. 

I’m not getting in a pissing match with you. Good night.  

[Banksyrules]

Just now, Napleshoosier said:

I’m not getting in a pissing match with you. Good night.  

good night

[coonhounds]

To me it is he is an upperclassman now and we need to get older. It is also why we are having meltdowns, lack of leadership etc. it is why fans need to chill on running off Gunn as he may well be Tamar next year. 
People can say it is ridiculous for Woody to call out the seniors (to be far, doesn’t matter what he says for some and Bobby did it all the time) but he is right. We are a very young team by contribution. 

Absolutely not. I disagree with this 100 percent! If bates was here he would be struggling I am confident. Pur staff has proven to not develop shooters imo. There is a reason he isn't here

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[Napleshoosier]

Johnell Davis from Gary.  Look at his stats.  Where was IU during this recruitment?  He’s a steely eyed monster at FAU!  Why? Because he drops shots.