Game Thread: vs. Northwestern 1/8/23 at Noon on FS1

[HoosierAloha 30,102]

27 minutes ago, Golfman25 said:

It does if you keep the last coach's players.  I am starting to think Woody should have just blown it up and started from scratch.  

 

10 minutes ago, Uspshoosier said:

Woody had a chance to let players that have been in the program and losing culture move on and leave.   He decided to convince these guys to come back for another year.   Sometimes no matter how much players have meant to a program it’s just time for them to move on.   Change is scary for coaches and fans but starting fresh without players from a previous culture might have been the move in this case especially with the portal.   The safe and comfortable thing to do is exactly what woody did.   Sometimes clean slate is the better move.    Easy for me to second guess after the fact though 

You can also start extremely strict until you feel comfortable with the leadership and baseline of your team. Once that happens you can back off a bit and/or let players take ownership of the program. What doesn't help your case is getting results below your talent level. It's an easy way to implode your team and lose recruits.

Looking component and winning would go a long way for Woody and this program.

[JSHoosier 22,229]

 

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20 minutes ago, Hoosierfan2017 said:

If Woody does, I can’t tell what it is. And that’s not me being snarky. I really don’t know what “Mike Woodson basketball” is supposed to look like. 

Come on now, he needs 5 years before we can begin to judge him.  He was sub .500 as a HC in the NBA but that's only bad if you care about wins.

[str8baller 7,605]

5 minutes ago, JSHoosier said:

Come on now, he needs 5 years before we can begin to judge him.  He was sub .500 as a HC in the NBA but that's only bad if you care about wins.

Saban was sub .500 in the NFL. Not sure you’re identifying any useful metrics. 

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8 minutes ago, JSHoosier said:

Can someone pull up postgame quotes from when he crapped the bed in 2008? I'm sure when the team and program were nose-diving that he spoke in the same hollow platitudes.

[TheWatShot 15,523]

SIAP...but this quote from TJD was an eye-opener: 

Coach had a great game plan and I don't think we followed it at all, honestly. We didn't switch when we needed to switch, and it's mental errors. 

When you don't listen to your coaches, that's going to really hurt you because obviously they were getting whatever shot they wanted.

[HoosierAloha 30,102]

19 minutes ago, JSHoosier said:

 

So about those very good premium cigar connections...

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10 minutes ago, str8baller said:

Saban was sub .500 in the NFL. Not sure you’re identifying any useful metrics. 

He was also 48-16 at LSU with 2 conference titles and 3 bowl wins in 5 years before going to Miami.  34-24-1 at MSU in 5 years and 9-2 at Toledo.  He had already proven himself to be a successful college football coach.

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7 minutes ago, TheWatShot said:

SIAP...but this quote from TJD was an eye-opener: 

Coach had a great game plan and I don't think we followed it at all, honestly. We didn't switch when we needed to switch, and it's mental errors. 

When you don't listen to your coaches, that's going to really hurt you because obviously they were getting whatever shot they wanted.

If that is the case, why didn't Duncomb, Banks, and Leal get some playing time? If the players that are the floor aren't doing what they're supposed to be doing, why not bench them? Not sitting them sends a bad message, imo.

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4 minutes ago, JSHoosier said:

He was also 48-16 at LSU with 2 conference titles and 3 bowl wins in 5 years before going to Miami.  34-24-1 at MSU in 5 years and 9-2 at Toledo.  He had already proven himself to be a successful college football coach.

Can't believe a Saban to Woodson comparison was made. Mindblown

[Uspshoosier 54,534]

big big hump 

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10 minutes ago, go iu bb said:

If that is the case, why didn't Duncomb, Banks, and Leal get some playing time? If the players that are the floor aren't doing what they're supposed to be doing, why not bench them? Not sitting them sends a bad message, imo.

Why would we start that now? Let's wait until they do something they need to be suspended for to hold them accountable.

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Turnovers have been a problem this season, steals in particular. IU's opponents have an average of 7.3 steals per game this season. 10.2 steals per game in the 5 loses. I'm going to go out on a limb and say that isn't good.

14 of IU's 16 turnovers today were steals.

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2 minutes ago, HoosierAloha said:

Why would we start that now? Let's wait until they do something they need to be suspended for to hold them accountable.

At least JG got only 10 minutes today. What's the worst thing that can happen if other players get benched? We lose at home to Northwestern?

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11 minutes ago, Uspshoosier said:

big big hump 

If he stopped leading them to defeat they would probably believe they could win 

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37 minutes ago, go iu bb said:

At least JG got only 10 minutes today. What's the worst thing that can happen if other players get benched? We lose at home to Northwestern?

After being there I don’t know who looked more lost at time JG or Kopp after a switch!

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3 minutes ago, reconmkd said:

After being there I don’t know who looked more lost at time JG or Kopp after a switch!

Come on, Kopp is a senior leader on this team he couldn't look lost.

[HoosierAloha 30,102]

Haha Illinois sucks. They were projected conference favorites with an easy schedule and are currently only a game ahead of last place Minny.

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6 minutes ago, HoosierAloha said:

Haha Illinois sucks. They were projected conference favorites with an easy schedule and are currently only a game ahead of last place Minny.

Tied with another B1G preseason favorite, IU.