IUBB @ Northwestern - 02/08/22 @ 9:00 ET on BTN

[HoosierAloha 30,077]

15 minutes ago, WayneFleekHoosier said:

Says my eye test doesn’t lie. Purdue is proving it with Ws and Ls what we’ve been watching since the beginning of the season. Indiana is doing the same thing. I’ve been saying it since 5 games in or less. It’s frustrating to watch Indiana turn into exactly what you expected them to turn into. One of these years they might exceed my expectations. And yes, winning quality road games is probably the best marker to PROVE your worth in college basketball. Good teams are expected to win at home. The Maryland win felt good but they were just beginning their tank train. And they stink. And no, I don’t expect IU to win on the road vs Purdue this year. Keeping it respectable would be nice. But winning at OSU should be possible especially if we were a “good” team. Penn State, NW, Syracuse, etc………..


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Remember when we were playing our 'best ball' going into the end of the season and we 'didn't have any blow out losses.'

[Uspshoosier 46,447]

6 minutes ago, HoosierAloha said:

Remember when we were playing our 'best ball' going into the end of the season and we 'didn't have any blow out losses.'

2015-16 season?

[TheWatShot 14,288]

3 minutes ago, Uspshoosier said:

2015-16 season?

Fun team. Probably one of the most under-appreciated IU teams in awhile. 

[Uspshoosier 46,447]

2 minutes ago, TheWatShot said:

Fun team. Probably one of the most under-appreciated IU teams in awhile. 

Didn’t start out fun.   Losing to Wake and then UNLV and Duke destroying them.   They turned it around and has an awesome B1G year.   15-3 I think 

[IUFAN1976 3,557]

1 hour ago, LamarCheeks said:

Not trying to be a smart aleck -- OK, maybe a little bit -- but you say you don't think X and Stew won't start.

Does that mean you think they will start? 

No, they won’t start.  That is my opinion only based what I read in that article.  Yes I am reading my on conclusions.  
 

I think the exact same 5 will start who started against NW with JG first off the bench.  The others will play, but only limited minutes.  That’s what I am going with.

[Stuhoo 81,871]

11 hours ago, HoosierAloha said:

I don't think anyone really believes we're a good team. The problem arises when it's actually posted. Most are thinking it, most see the reasons we won those games but don't want to admit it. That's the difference between the spectrum on this board.

There are over 300 D1 teams. We are a top 50 team at worst. Probably the 30-35th best team in college basketball.

That makes us a “good” team. Not a top 25 team, certainly not a great team, but yes—a good team.

[MikeRoberts 7,205]

9 minutes ago, Stuhoo said:

There’s over 300 D1 teams. We are a top 50 team at worst. Probably the 30-35th best team in college basketball.

That makes us a “good” team. Not a top 25 team, certainly not a great team, but yes—a good team.

Top 50 is a tourney team!!!  Top 30-35 is a 6 or 7 seed. I don’t think that is true but would be stoked if true

[Stuhoo 81,871]

7 minutes ago, MikeRoberts said:

Top 50 is a tourney team!!! 

We’re currently a lock. If we don’t melt down going forward we’re a tourney team. If we have an Archie style implosion? We aren’t.

[Stuhoo 81,871]

15 minutes ago, IUFAN1976 said:

No, they won’t start.  That is my opinion only based what I read in that article.  Yes I am reading my on conclusions.  
 

I think the exact same 5 will start who started against NW with JG first off the bench.  The others will play, but only limited minutes.  That’s what I am going with.

Galloway has to now be a starter. I just can’t imagine he won’t be.

[HoosierAloha 30,077]

11 hours ago, HoosierAloha said:

Are you saying everything was on the up and up under Knight? No family members landing jobs around Btown they weren't exactly qualified for?

 

11 hours ago, HoosierAloha said:

I mean I wasn't around Btown at that time so I wouldn't know first hand. I did have the pleasure of having some older golf buddies that were involved with the program and had some interesting stories. I'm sure those stories grew over time and as those individuals aged. If even a portion of those stories were half-truths Knight and the program wasn't as clean as we'd all like to imagine.

Again, just wanting to find out a little more info into that time period. I don't think there is any dispute to his coaching abilities, handling players accountable, or getting the most out of his players.

 

7 hours ago, WayneFleekHoosier said:

Yup.  100% correct. It’s funny to hear all this talk when you know how recruiting goes.  Winners win.  And find ways to win.  And keep winning. Losers make excuses.  
 

That’s all the more reason a team like Purdue over the last however many years has been impressive.  

Still legit curious about this. Any of the older crowd have good/funny stories?

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49 minutes ago, Stuhoo said:

Galloway has to now be a starter. I just can’t imagine he won’t be.

The missteps also provide a natural breaking point in the lineup without telling someone they’re benched for play. E.g. Galloway starts now because he’s earned it, and if Stew wants to start he can prove he’s committed to the team on and off court, to paraphrase CMW.

For purely basketball reasons, should either start over Kopp? Yes. But there’s no universe where even a slumping Kopp is playing zero minutes, so if he’s a token starter but plays less than Gallo/Stew/healthy Phin, so be it, at least for now.

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36 minutes ago, lillurk said:

The missteps also provide a natural breaking point in the lineup without telling someone they’re benched for play. E.g. Galloway starts now because he’s earned it, and if Stew wants to start he can prove he’s committed to the team on and off court, to paraphrase CMW.

For purely basketball reasons, should either start over Kopp? Yes. But there’s no universe where even a slumping Kopp is playing zero minutes, so if he’s a token starter but plays less than Gallo/Stew/healthy Phin, so be it, at least for now.

He’s not a bigten starter. He just isn’t. He is soooo limited in his skill set. I think he try’s hard but ain’t effective enough to see any playing time when we are in un-suspended. 
Give his minutes to Geronimo and Galloway

[HoosierHoopster 7,241]

2 hours ago, Stuhoo said:

Galloway has to now be a starter. I just can’t imagine he won’t be.

Been asking for this for a long time now. Kind of annoying it took a 5-player benching for Woodson to finally get around to it, but maybe there’s a silver lining there 

[RaceToTheTop 26,334]

10 hours ago, HoosierAloha said:

They're in the cellar of the Big 1.o... despite you wanting them to be better, they're just not good. They're quad 3, maybe quad 4 wins?

We won those games, I acknowledged those games. Yay!! Two quad 1 wins we needed badly.

During that incredible "streak" after setting the tone with the player meeting we beat a good team, beat a cellar dweller, laid turds all over the court, beat THE cellar dweller, and beat one of the teams tied for the top of the Big 1.o. That amazing "streak" lasted all of 2.5 games before we forgot that we had to play with e and listen to the coach. That seems about right for this team.

 

Figure 1 - showing the current standings of those two amazing wins against the cellar dwellers during our focused "streak"

Hmmmm......I wonder why Purdue and Ohio State weren't circled.  I really hope that you haven't hurt your back bending over backwards trying to explain to your self that during the five game streak winning four out five was a bad thing to do.  Maybe you should post another gif.  FWIW, Minnesota and Nebraska were both quad 3's, not even close to quad 4's, so don't know why you threw that possibility out there.  I could use the same excuse you did for the Ohio State game (Minnesota had multiple injuries and a covid pause after they played us and 'they've never been the same'), but that was lame when you used it so I won't.

Let's see.....if you win four out of every five games in the Big Ten.....works out to a 16 and 4 conference record.  Huh.  That's pretty damn good.....like conference champion good.  But keep selling yourself on the excuses why it wasn't that good of a streak to try to prove a non-existent point.

 

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Moving forward, my starting lineup is

XJ
Leal
Gallo
Race
Trayce



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7 hours ago, HoosierHoopster said:

Been asking for this for a long time now. Kind of annoying it took a 5-player benching for Woodson to finally get around to it, but maybe there’s a silver lining there 

Has it been announced or has it happened, yet? Remember how it was 'just going to happen' before one of those games and it never did?

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7 hours ago, HoosierHoopster said:

Been asking for this for a long time now. Kind of annoying it took a 5-player benching for Woodson to finally get around to it, but maybe there’s a silver lining there 

I'm not convinced Gallo will start, even though it's a slam dunk in my book he should. But Woody has his stubborn streak, just like Archie did.

[HoosierAloha 30,077]

40 minutes ago, brumdog45 said:

Hmmmm......I wonder why Purdue and Ohio State weren't circled.  I really hope that you haven't hurt your back bending over backwards trying to explain to your self that during the five game streak winning four out five was a bad thing to do.  Maybe you should post another gif.  FWIW, Minnesota and Nebraska were both quad 3's, not even close to quad 4's, so don't know why you threw that possibility out there.  I could use the same excuse you did for the Ohio State game (Minnesota had multiple injuries and a covid pause after they played us and 'they've never been the same'), but that was lame when you used it so I won't.

Let's see.....if you win four out of every five games in the Big Ten.....works out to a 16 and 4 conference record.  Huh.  That's pretty damn good.....like conference champion good.  But keep selling yourself on the excuses why it wasn't that good of a streak to try to prove a non-existent point.

 

Winning 4 out of 5 was fantastic, I'll take 4 out of 5 for this team anytime. It's amazing to win 4 out of 5. I am capable of realizing that all teams go through their ups and downs throughout a season too. In our amazing "streak" while we were "up" we were able to knockoff 2 of the top 5 Big 1.o teams paired with 2 of the bottom 2 teams. Speaking of the bottom, 5 of our 7 conference wins are against the bottom 4. We'll need to "streak" through a couple more wins against those bottom teams to have a chance at the dance and to finish .500 or better in conference. That'll be about 70% of our wins in conference coming against the bottom 4...

Do you have any insight whether the team had another "meeting" to remember to play with e and listen to the coach? I'm putting some money on these next games.

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Not sure what’s going on here with the back and forth over winning 4 out 5 B1G games so I apologize for not reading this whole thing to get the proper context but regardless of who they beat in that stretch a winning streak of 4 out of 5 B1G hasn’t been done in since Archie’s first year.   Not uncommon for a team that is a borderline bubble team or 7-10 seed to feast on the bottom of the league.   That’s not just Indiana that’s pretty much every middle of the pack team.   Unless you thought IU was a team that should be competing for the B1G this year these type of wins are the ones IU needs to win and for the most part they have done that.    Minny is an interesting case.  They have had a good awful conference season and went through a pause.  For a team that has no depth and plays it’s starters most of the minutes that is crushing.   However when evaluating a team you can’t just take 1 phase of the resume and ignore the other parts so as bad as Minny is was in conference they were the opposite in the non-conference picking up big neutral and road wins to make it to where they gave themselves a chance.   Still on the board for most bracketologist in the teams considered but need to make a big time run to end the year.   For me I’m not seeing the point of the back and forth debate on this.  Just my opinion 

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14 minutes ago, Uspshoosier said:

Not sure what’s going on here with the back and forth over winning 4 out 5 B1G games so I apologize for not reading this whole thing to get the proper context but regardless of who they beat in that stretch a winning streak of 4 out of 5 B1G hasn’t been done in since Archie’s first year.   Not uncommon for a team that is a borderline bubble team or 7-10 seed to feast on the bottom of the league.   That’s not just Indiana that’s pretty much every middle of the pack team.   Unless you thought IU was a team that should be competing for the B1G this year these type of wins are the ones IU needs to win and for the most part they have done that.    Minny is an interesting case.  They have had a good awful conference season and went through a pause.  For a team that has no depth and plays it’s starters most of the minutes that is crushing.   However when evaluating a team you can’t just take 1 phase of the resume and ignore the other parts so as bad as Minny is was in conference they were the opposite in the non-conference picking up big neutral and road wins to make it to where they gave themselves a chance.   Still on the board for most bracketologist in the teams considered but need to make a big time run to end the year.   For me I’m not seeing the point of the back and forth debate on this.  Just my opinion 

What does this mean and how many teams do bracketologist keep on their board this late?

Opposite IU, they've gone through their tough Big 1.o stretch and have an easier upcoming schedule. However, they'd have to go on an actual winning streak to find their way to even being able to see .500 in conference. That struggle at Nebrasketball did them no favors.