(2024) PF - Derik Queen to Maryland

[8bucks]

Just about every game summary seems to be a blow out win.  Clearly the MVA guys we have gotten have been better than other recruits we have gotten but are they really playing better competition?  Sure some of these other teams have a good player too but are they great teams?  

[Alford Bailey]

27 minutes ago, 8bucks said:

Just about every game summary seems to be a blow out win.  Clearly the MVA guys we have gotten have been better than other recruits we have gotten but are they really playing better competition?  Sure some of these other teams have a good player too but are they great teams?  

Didn’t they just beat the #1 team in the country?

[8bucks]

Just now, Alford Bailey said:

Didn’t they just beat the #1 team in the country?

Perhaps. I didn’t say they never played anyone good. I said just about every summary I read is a blowout. Just checked and here is their schedule. https://mvasports.com/sports/mens-basketball/schedule/2023-24

[Class of '66 Old Fart]

23 minutes ago, 8bucks said:

Just about every game summary seems to be a blow out win.  Clearly the MVA guys we have gotten have been better than other recruits we have gotten but are they really playing better competition?  Sure some of these other teams have a good player too but are they great teams?  

No doubt there are some cupcakes but overall, the EYBL Scholastic League is the creme de la creme of basketball factory basketball.  Almost all of the teams in that league have multiple players who will eventually play at the D1 level.  

This link will give you the teams that are members.

https://nikeeyblscholastic.com/stats.aspx?path=mbball&year=2023

If you've never watched a MVA game, please do so.  Plenty out there to pick from.  They play fantastic team basketball and it's a joy to watch their ball movement on offense and the screening and cutting they do.  No egos either.  Game I watched earlier today, Liam had open 3s and he passed to teammates who didn't have any better shot than the ones he passed up and he still scored 16 pts.  On defense, they've all got really active hands and know how to switch or fight through screens.  Extremely well coached.  

[Class of '66 Old Fart]

5 minutes ago, Alford Bailey said:

Didn’t they just beat the #1 team in the country?

They have been the #1 team and are undefeated on the season.

[8bucks]

7 minutes ago, Class of '66 Old Fart said:

No doubt there are some cupcakes but overall, the EYBL Scholastic League is the creme de la creme of basketball factory basketball.  Almost all of the teams in that league have multiple players who will eventually play at the D1 level.  

This link will give you the teams that are members.

https://nikeeyblscholastic.com/stats.aspx?path=mbball&year=2023

If you've never watched a MVA game, please do so.  Plenty out there to pick from.  They play fantastic team basketball and it's a joy to watch their ball movement on offense and the screening and cutting they do.  No egos either.  Game I watched earlier today, Liam had open 3s and he passed to teammates who didn't have any better shot than the ones he passed up and he still scored 16 pts.  On defense, they've all got really active hands and know how to switch or fight through screens.  Extremely well coached.  

Not complaining about getting a kid or multiple kids from MVA but if you look at their 26 wins, they won 20 by 20+ points.  I know that league is considered the best but was just surprised that so many games are not close.  

[Class of '66 Old Fart]

20 minutes ago, 8bucks said:

Not complaining about getting a kid or multiple kids from MVA but if you look at their 26 wins, they won 20 by 20+ points.  I know that league is considered the best but was just surprised that so many games are not close.  

It is an extremely talented team and deep in talent.

[Alford Bailey]

1 hour ago, Class of '66 Old Fart said:

They have been the #1 team and are undefeated on the season.

They aren’t listed on some rankings. I think PaulVI was ranked #1 when Monteverde beat them.

[Class of '66 Old Fart]

41 minutes ago, Alford Bailey said:

They aren’t listed on some rankings. I think PaulVI was ranked #1 when Monteverde beat them.

It is a problem that there are multiple rankings that get published and not all schools are considered in every ranking.  Private school, public school, EYBL, etc.

[Class of '66 Old Fart]

[Class of '66 Old Fart]

[Demo]

36 minutes ago, Class of '66 Old Fart said:

Best player on the floor tonight. A couple of his assists were highlight reel stuff, Such a unique kid.

[Home Jersey]

13 minutes ago, Demo said:

Best player on the floor tonight. A couple of his assists were highlight reel stuff, Such a unique kid.

That half court oop to Newell was insane. Jokic like passing ability 

[Demo]

1 minute ago, Home Jersey said:

That half court oop to Newell was insane. Jokic like passing ability 

Yeah, and the reverse pivot back door cut to Givens, Those are tough plays and he makes them look like they just aren’t.

[Demo]

Just your average  everyday post kid throwing a 40’ alley oop with perfect timing and dead on the money.

[Demo]

Rivals from this weekend:

The 6-foot-10, 245-pound big plays with a confidence that says he can’t be stopped and then his play makes that aura the reality. Queen’s ability to carve out position in the paint and create space and angles for easy scores is next level. He averaged 15 points, 15 rebounds and four assists through two games this weekend. As for his recruitment, Queen said he thinks “it’s getting to that time” to make a decision. His final four consists of Houston, Kansas, Indiana and Maryland.

[Hoosier2014]

Don’t have Peegs sub but reading the Twitter replies to the article sounds pretty good for IU. Seems he mentioned Ware going pro or not as a deciding factor. Would make sense as to why he hasn’t announced anything yet and one would assume this could be a good thing for IU. If anyone read the article and got something different from it, please correct me. 

[IUFAN1976]

He’s not coming if we Fire Mike Woodson!

[AZ Hoosier]

1 hour ago, IUFAN1976 said:

He’s not coming if we Fire Mike Woodson!

That's no reason to keep a bad coach... at best Queen will be a one and done (IF he comes to IU)... 

And it's interesting to me to read the order of the schools listed in the Peegs article (assuming @Demo 's quote is accurate): Houston, Kansas, Indiana and Maryland... that kind of jumped out at me when I read it... all the earlier reports made it sound like a battle between Indiana and Maryland, and now Houston and Kansas are listed ahead of both of the previous "leaders".

The story circulating was that he was Hoosier-bound if Ware leaves... and I'd almost guarantee that Ware is gone next year... so, he must be reconsidering it all at this point... curious how big of a factor is Woodson's status in his mind?

[HoosierTrav]

27 minutes ago, AZ Hoosier said:

That's no reason to keep a bad coach... at best Queen will be a one and done (IF he comes to IU)... 

And it's interesting to me to read the order of the schools listed in the Peegs article (assuming @Demo 's quote is accurate): Houston, Kansas, Indiana and Maryland... that kind of jumped out at me when I read it... all the earlier reports made it sound like a battle between Indiana and Maryland, and now Houston and Kansas are listed ahead of both of the previous "leaders".

The story circulating was that he was Hoosier-bound if Ware leaves... and I'd almost guarantee that Ware is gone next year... so, he must be reconsidering it all at this point... curious how big of a factor is Woodson's status in his mind?

He’s not going anywhere this season. Im not thrilled about it but it’s pretty much a given. 
 

Assuming that’s the case, personally, I'm going to be rooting that we get this kid. These Montverde guys are not your standard run of the mill 5 star kids. They are difference makers as soon as they hit the floor. If we can have 2 of them in one class, it changes the calculus for us. Obviously we need to put more pieces together but it makes that more of a possibility. These are the kinds of kids that even Mike Woodson can win with. 
 

I said it before: if we can rebound and have a similar year to last year, next year, we will have avoided a ton of bad optics and will likely open up the candidate pool tremendously. 
 

im rooting for us to get this kid and bounce back next year. Go read my post history. That’s completely against the grain for me.