Uspshoosier Posted March 26, 2021 Posted March 26, 2021 6 minutes ago, WayneFleekHoosier said: What happened at Illinois State? He lost. Wasn’t ready for a D1 job at the time and I believe he has said this much IUc2016 1
WayneFleekHoosier Posted March 26, 2021 Posted March 26, 2021 4 minutes ago, Stuhoo said: He learned some lessons that allowed him to get better. Could be. How long will it take him to learn lessons at the B1G level as a newcomer?
Uspshoosier Posted March 26, 2021 Posted March 26, 2021 1 minute ago, WayneFleekHoosier said: Could be. How long will it take him to learn lessons at the B1G level as a newcomer? About the same as every other person on the hot board I would guess Stromboli 1
Uspshoosier Posted March 26, 2021 Posted March 26, 2021 If he becomes coach I might I have to read his book All In. Heck I might go read it even if he doesn’t become coach
Uspshoosier Posted March 26, 2021 Posted March 26, 2021 2 minutes ago, WayneFleekHoosier said: Could be. How long will it take him to learn lessons at the B1G level as a newcomer? Your big on outside perception. What would the perception be if Moser turned down the IU job to stay at Loyola or took the Creighton job instead of IU IUc2016 1
WayneFleekHoosier Posted March 26, 2021 Posted March 26, 2021 2 minutes ago, Uspshoosier said: About the same as every other person on the hot board I would guess Probably less than a coach who has already coached and recruited at a power 5 level. That’s my suspicion.
WayneFleekHoosier Posted March 26, 2021 Posted March 26, 2021 (edited) 3 minutes ago, Uspshoosier said: Your big on outside perception. What would the perception be if Moser turned down the IU job to stay at Loyola or took the Creighton job instead of IU IUs perception is reaching the bottom of the barrel by blue blood standards anyway. So either we pony up and get a intimidating, statement splash, or we continue to act like a non Blue Blood program and hire the next non power 5 up and comer and don’t separate from the pack. Edited March 26, 2021 by WayneFleekHoosier Hardwood83, Hoosierfan2017 and GoIU8 3
Hoosierfan2017 Posted March 26, 2021 Posted March 26, 2021 13 minutes ago, WayneFleekHoosier said: What happened at Illinois State? Nothing good. The thing about Moser for me is that I wouldn’t be interested in him if his last four years were his only four years. We just got done getting burned by a mid major up and comer. I don’t want to do that all over again right after, no matter how different from Archie Moser might be. Add in his other 13 seasons and I have absolutely zero interest in him at all. Hardwood83 and Alford Bailey 2
Uspshoosier Posted March 26, 2021 Posted March 26, 2021 1 minute ago, WayneFleekHoosier said: Probably less than a coach who has already coached and recruited at a power 5 level. That’s my suspicion. Depends on if they are allowed to recruit how they recruited before. For instance does Oats get to bring Hodgson with him to IU and does he get to recruit like he does at Bama. When Slater drops the total culture change for Bama and points out Hodgson and Oats together as sharks. Not sure that’s going to fly at IU
Uspshoosier Posted March 26, 2021 Posted March 26, 2021 3 minutes ago, WayneFleekHoosier said: IUs perception is reaching the bottom of the barrel by blue blood standards anyway. So either we pony up and get a intimidating, statement splash, or we continue to act like a non Blue Blood program and hire the next non power 5 up and comer and don’t separate from the pack. And if you pony up and no one comes that would be an intimidating slash time to call it a day?
WayneFleekHoosier Posted March 26, 2021 Posted March 26, 2021 2 minutes ago, Uspshoosier said: Depends on if they are allowed to recruit how they recruited before. For instance does Oats get to bring Hodgson with him to IU and does he get to recruit like he does at Bama. When Slater drops the total culture change for Bama and points out Hodgson and Oats together as sharks. Not sure that’s going to fly at IU Sure. And if that holds true, Indiana will need another Miracle. IE-Zeller, Oladipo type finds. Gonna be a challenge for Indiana if we don’t at least level the playing field. It’s like playing poker with 4 cards and expecting to win.
WayneFleekHoosier Posted March 26, 2021 Posted March 26, 2021 2 minutes ago, Uspshoosier said: And if you pony up and no one comes that would be an intimidating slash time to call it a day? Maybe. I mean keep on keeping on, but they will go the way of IU football prior to this past season. It’s happening before our eyes. Hoosierfan2017 1
hoosierpap Posted March 27, 2021 Posted March 27, 2021 Wayne, I encourage you to watch some Loyola film. if you haven't...honestly, I like a lot of their sets. Far from anything you've seen at IU in quite awhile. lillurk 1
Brass Cannon Posted March 27, 2021 Posted March 27, 2021 1 minute ago, Uspshoosier said: To be fair there are YouTube videos that make Archie miller’s system look good. That being said I don’t know I haven’t watched enough of his stuff
Stuhoo Posted March 27, 2021 Posted March 27, 2021 11 minutes ago, hoosierpap said: Wayne, I encourage you to watch some Loyola film. if you haven't...honestly, I like a lot of their sets. Far from anything you've seen at IU in quite awhile. Wayne, I encourage you to watch some Loyola film. if you haven't...honestly, I like a lot of their sets. Far from anything ILLINOIS has seen FROM IU in quite awhile. (fixed that up for you pap) hoosierpap 1
WayneFleekHoosier Posted March 27, 2021 Posted March 27, 2021 (edited) 10 minutes ago, Uspshoosier said: I’ve watched this. None of these drills/YouTube clips will impress me. Most people said Crean ran the best practices they’ve ever seen. As far as sets? Meh. I’m ready for better offense. But the B1G scouts each other so well, those sets won’t continue to work over and over. It becomes a matter of my guys are better than your guys and my guys are well coached and know a good shot from a bad shot, and can create on their own when the defense may be trying to predict your sets/motions. I love a great set to go to to get a good look, but ultimately the guys need to learn how to space and read and react and then hit the open looks. I want to say to the other coach “My guys are better than your guys, na na na boo boo..... Try to game plan for that.” Edited March 27, 2021 by WayneFleekHoosier Alford Bailey and Hoosierfan2017 2
Uspshoosier Posted March 27, 2021 Posted March 27, 2021 8 minutes ago, Brass Cannon said: To be fair there are YouTube videos that make Archie miller’s system look good. That being said I don’t know I haven’t watched enough of his stuff No one has to watch them. I’m posting them if anyone wants to watch some of his stuff. Won’t make them automatically think he is the greatest just more information for people to see Stromboli 1
Uspshoosier Posted March 27, 2021 Posted March 27, 2021 1 minute ago, WayneFleekHoosier said: I’ve watched this. None of these drills/YouTube clips will impress me. Most people said Crean ran the best practices they’ve ever seen. As far as sets? Meh. I’m ready for better offense. But the B1G scouts each other so well, those sets won’t continue to work over and over. It becomes a matter of my guys are better than your guys and my guys are well coached and know a good shot from a bad shot, and can create on their own when the defense may be trying to predict your sets/motions. I love a great set to go to to get a good look, but ultimately the guys need to learn how to space and read and react and then hit the open looks. I want to say to the other coach “My guys are better than your guys, na na na boo boo..... Try to game plan for that.” Not trying to impress anyone. I’m going to post them in his thread. If people watch cool if not that’s cool also IUc2016 1
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