Bracketology and Team Resumes

[IUc2016 7,121]

16 minutes ago, Loaded Chicken Sandwich said:

This is a year where the NET needs thrown in the trash. Everything should really be considered neutral with no fans. Eye test will be more important than ever. 

lol you say this every year. 

[Loaded Chicken Sandwich 8,674]

Just now, IUc2016 said:

lol you say this every year. 

Well it's a trash system made by a trash organization. But this season "road wins" mean jack squat. They are all the same. No difference playing in the Maui tourney vs playing in Iowa or even Bloomington. Same goes for everyone else. 

[IUc2016 7,121]

Just now, Loaded Chicken Sandwich said:

Well it's a trash system made by a trash organization. But this season "road wins" mean jack squat. They are all the same. No difference playing in the Maui tourney vs playing in Iowa or even Bloomington. Same goes for everyone else. 

keep being you brother

[HoosierAloha 30,068]

I’ve started to dive into the team sheets the last couple days.  Definitely going to be an interesting year and I look forward to the committee releasing their top 16 in Feb.   I will post some blind resumes later but for know a fun observation.   As of today a road win at Abilene Christian, Kent St or Marshall (Q1 road wins)would be considered a better win by the committee then winning at Duke, Kentucky or Michigan St (Q2 road wins).   This will probably change as the year goes on but still an interesting observation 

Interested to see Stanford’s resume. Good wins over Alabama, road wins at UCLA and Arizona. Trash loss to IU


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[NashvilleHoosier 3,712]

48 minutes ago, HoosierAloha said:

Interested to see Stanford’s resume. Good wins over Alabama, road wins at UCLA and Arizona. Trash loss to IU


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That loss to IU is 3 spots away from being a quad 1 win for us. Let's hope they keep it going. 

[HoosierAloha 30,068]

12 minutes ago, NashvilleHoosier said:

That loss to IU is 3 spots away from being a quad 1 win for us. Let's hope they keep it going. 

They're down several starters and have won vs. UCLA and at Arizona.  They have some solid opponents coming up in USC and Colorado but also games against bad teams they can't afford to lose.

[Uspshoosier 45,689]

54 minutes ago, HoosierAloha said:

They're down several starters and have won vs. UCLA and at Arizona.  They have some solid opponents coming up in USC and Colorado but also games against bad teams they can't afford to lose.

Despite what you might here from people on here the Stanford win was always going to be viewed at as a solid resume building win especially playing them when they were full strength.  Just like the Providence win was always going to be a solid resume building win.    Maybe not a signature win like the road win at Iowa but a quality win.   If IU misses out on the tournament it will be because of their inability to win Q2 quality home games.  That cost them 2 years ago when they were in the first 4 out and that cost them a couple seed lines last year if the tournament would of been played 

[Loaded Chicken Sandwich 8,674]

Maybe we have scheduled a road game vs Colgate. 

[Uspshoosier 45,689]

For those interested going into this weekend I have IU as the 1st 10 seed as of now.   That would be 37th on the S-curve 

[rcbowla 7,125]

For those interested going into this weekend I have IU as the 1st 10 seed as of now.   That would be 37th on the S-curve 

For curiosity sake. What if IU would have won against NW and either PU or Rutgers? 9 possibly 8 seed?

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[Uspshoosier 45,689]

2 minutes ago, rcs29 said:

For curiosity sake. What if IU would have won against NW and either PU or Rutgers? 9 possibly 8 seed?

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7 or 8 would be my first guess without diving too far into it.   A Rutgers or Purdue win would move them up more then rhe northwestern win would.    The number 1 bracket guy actually has IU as a 9 seed as of today so he is a little higher on their resume then I am 

[Uspshoosier 45,689]

9 B1G teams projected in my bracket 

Maryland, Sparty and now Penn St are teams that are knocking on the door.  12 of 14 teams being in consideration for an at-large bid is just another example of how crazy the B1G is.   Statistics tell you that this won’t continue and some teams will slide down but still impressive heading into February 

[Uspshoosier 45,689]

2 minutes ago, Uspshoosier said:

9 B1G teams projected in my bracket 

Maryland, Sparty and now Penn St are teams that are knocking on the door.  12 of 14 teams being in consideration for an at-large bid is just another example of how crazy the B1G is.   Statistics tell you that this won’t continue and some teams will slide down but still impressive heading into February 

I Probably had  Sparty on here for name recognition.  After looking at it closer they should be included with Nebraska and Northwestern.   Luckily for them they will have plenty of opportunities to make a run 

[Loaded Chicken Sandwich 8,674]

Does the committee look at NET just black and white or do they dig in more? Colgate is ranked what? 11th? Jordan Burns is really good, but is Colgate that good? Penn State? Top 40 in the NET? Committee would have to be objective on some things right?

[Uspshoosier 45,689]

4 minutes ago, Loaded Chicken Sandwich said:

Does the committee look at NET just black and white or do they dig in more? Colgate is ranked what? 11th? Jordan Burns is really good, but is Colgate that good? Penn State? Top 40 in the NET? Committee would have to be objective on some things right?

Committee will look at everything.  The overall NET number is used to group teams together when they are comparing teams.   If all your team has is a good NET number then you don’t have anything 

I posted examples the last couple years where they bypassed a team with good net number for others teams that had an overall better resume 

[TheWatShot 14,001]

Why is Colgate #11 in the NET rankings? No Quad 1 or 2 wins, only played 7 total games, SOS of 340. 

[Uspshoosier 45,689]

4 minutes ago, TheWatShot said:

Why is Colgate #11 in the NET rankings? No Quad 1 or 2 wins, only played 7 total games, SOS of 340. 

Outlier.  Wish I had the formula to how they come up with the numbers but most of it is because they have only play 7 games.   They just went to OT with Holy Cross and won so I will be interested to see if their numbers change in the next couple days.   My best guess is the more games they play the further down they will fall 

[Loaded Chicken Sandwich 8,674]

4 minutes ago, Uspshoosier said:

Outlier.  Wish I had the formula to how they come up with the numbers but most of it is because they have only play 7 games.   They just went to OT with Holy Cross and won so I will be interested to see if their numbers change in the next couple days.   My best guess is the more games they play the further down they will fall 

Seem to be plenty of outliers in the NET. 

[Uspshoosier 45,689]

1 minute ago, Loaded Chicken Sandwich said:

Seem to be plenty of outliers in the NET. 

Not really.   Every metric has them.  RPI, Ken Pom, NET each have their outliers but at the end of the day it works 

[Loaded Chicken Sandwich 8,674]

1 hour ago, Uspshoosier said:

Not really.   Every metric has them.  RPI, Ken Pom, NET each have their outliers but at the end of the day it works 

It only works if they are all used together objectively and can't be black and white. And need to be used alongside the eye test.