Bracketology and Team Resumes

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22 hours ago, HoosierHoops1 said:

Teams should get the value of what a team was rated prior to the game. Getting punished for kicking someone's tail is asinine.

 

If Purdue goes on a 15 game losing streak, Rutgers should get credit for beating #1, quad 1A.

The problem is that the NET rankings for any early games are pretty meaningless.  And if Maryland is truly top 30 worthy, they have plenty of time to bump themselves back up.  I think the whole beating a team by a lot at the end of the year and having them drop quads is a bigger issue because by that point their value is pretty much established.

Personally, I don't think Maryland is a top 30 team and I think by the end of the year their NET will show that regardless of what Michigan did to them.  Quite a few teams right now aren't going to finish where their current NET is.  For instance, I have no doubt that Sam Houston doesn't end the season anywhere close to their current NET of 25.

[Uspshoosier 45,024]

That would be difficult to track if you tried to award teams wins based on where they were in the NET at the time of the game.   Problem is teams either get better or regress throughout the season.   Imagine  losing a game early to a team that’s NET  was bad early on before meaningful games were actually played and the were a Q4 at the time.    They get players healthy and have time to gel and by conference time they win their conference and have a Q1 NET.  Your team is getting penalized by playing them early and it counts as a Q4 loss instead of what it should be as a Q1.    One thing they could do which I would hate because my morning revolves around studying it before work is just don’t release the NET rankings until mid February.    These early NET releases are to show a little transparency and for people like me to obsess over them early on.     Thing is committee doesn’t meet in person until they release their top 16 in February and then right before they select the teams.  These early NET numbers are really never in play anyway but they sure are fun to debate about for bracketology and hoops junkies 

[IUc2016 7,121]

With the game @ Iowa today....

IU's profile entering REAL Big Ten play:

NET: 18

Q1 - 2-3

Q2 - 0-0

Q3 - 1-0

Q4 - 7-0

NET SOS: 40

NET NON-CON SOS: 83

Nebraska is 87th in the NET at the moment, would need to be top 75 for that to be a Q2 win. Kennesaw State is 177th in the NET and would need to be top 160 for that to be a Q3 win. Minnesota is at 237th in the NET and flirting with Q4 game if they fall below 240. Michigan at home would be the only other game outside Q2 at the moment as they are 77th, but I would be shocked if they don't end up top 50 in the net and at least a Q2.

January and February have been utterly exhausting and disappointing the last 6 seasons, here's to hoping we got that out of the way in December this season and make a run at the top of the Big ten! Go Hoosiers.

[Uspshoosier 45,024]

IU dropped to 21 in the NET after their road loss at Iowa.    Iowa jumped 6 spots to get to 60.   

Missed opportunity for IU to get a road top 75 win.   Iowa is not as bad as the team that lost to Eastern Illinois and probably not as good as the team that smashed Iowa st but they are a team that will be fighting for the tournament.   Never should have lost this game but they did and they need to move on and try to steal some on the road.     
 

just a reminder to some even if IU finishes the season as a 8-11 seed and better then(9-11) 9th in the conference that’s an improvement from last years team that barely made it in.    Not at all saying that’s the goal or I’m cool with it just pointing out that’s where the program you are invested in is at right now 

[HoosierAloha 30,024]

2 hours ago, Uspshoosier said:

IU dropped to 21 in the NET after their road loss at Iowa.    Iowa jumped 6 spots to get to 60.   

Missed opportunity for IU to get a road top 75 win.   Iowa is not as bad as the team that lost to Eastern Illinois and probably not as good as the team that smashed Iowa st but they are a team that will be fighting for the tournament.   Never should have lost this game but they did and they need to move on and try to steal some on the road.     
 

just a reminder to some even if IU finishes the season as a 8-11 seed and better then(9-11) 9th in the conference that’s an improvement from last years team that barely made it in.    Not at all saying that’s the goal or I’m cool with it just pointing out that’s where the program you are invested in is at right now 

It's fair to say that it took some Big 1.o tourney wins to secure that First Four invite no?

[Uspshoosier 45,024]

19 minutes ago, HoosierAloha said:

It's fair to say that it took some Big 1.o tourney wins to secure that First Four invite no?

Yeah.   For me I had them in with the first tourney win against Michigan but the committee putting them in the last 4 in told  me  that they needed to win the Illinois game as well.  

[Uspshoosier 45,024]

A tradition unlike any other.    I post the numbers early in the year and like clockwork they keep sliding down as the year goes on 

 

NET 37

sos- 23

Non con-93

Q1- 1-5  

w-@19,

L-@5, Neutral-9, @18, @40, @52

Q2-1-1

W-32

L-51

https://www.warrennolan.com/basketball/2023/team-net-sheet?team=Indiana
 

the IU fan in me sees the way the team is playing and realizes this probably isn’t going to end well

the bracketologist in me knows that there is a path to get this back on track but you have to string some wins together   
 

A couple years ago Sparty was 4-9 in conference and went on a nice little run(starting with a win against IU) and ended up making the tourney.    

 

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17 minutes ago, Uspshoosier said:

A tradition unlike any other.    I post the numbers early in the year and like clockwork they keep sliding down as the year goes on 

 

NET 37

sos- 23

Non con-93

Q1- 1-5  

w-@19,

L-@5, Neutral-9, @18, @40, @52

Q2-1-1

W-32

L-51

https://www.warrennolan.com/basketball/2023/team-net-sheet?team=Indiana
 

the IU fan in me sees the way the team is playing and realizes this probably isn’t going to end well

the bracketologist in me knows that there is a path to get this back on track but you have to string some wins together   
 

A couple years ago Sparty was 4-9 in conference and went on a nice little run(starting with a win against IU) and ended up making the tourney.    

 

I was IU played games without oxygen, because in a vacuum those numbers are a a likely tournament team with a 9 or 10 seed.  Outside of a vacuum, though, that's a team in a free fall.

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[Uspshoosier 45,024]

If IU finds its way into  the First 4  this year and ruin my relaxing First 4 vacation like last year I am not going to be happy again 

[go iu bb 5,495]

4 minutes ago, Uspshoosier said:

If IU finds its way into  the First 4  this year and ruin my relaxing First 4 vacation like last year I am not going to be happy again 

I don't think you have to worry about that. By the time RT and/or XJ are back, IU will have played themselves out of the possibility of an at-large bid and we all know how well they do in the B1GT.

[Stuhoo 79,639]

5 minutes ago, Uspshoosier said:

If IU finds its way into  the First 4  this year and ruin my relaxing First 4 vacation like last year I am not going to be happy again 

I'm not seeing that situation this year. This sadness is happening way too early in the season.

It either

1. Gets better soon and then X and Race come back and it gets quite good, or
2. It slides into the abyss

[coonhounds 8,787]

I'm not seeing that situation this year. This sadness is happening way too early in the season.
It either

1. Gets better soon and then X and Race come back and it gets quite good, or
2. It slides into the abyss

The abyss slide is nearly guaranteed but Saturday would be a nice start at turning this around and a decent resume builder

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[Uspshoosier 45,024]

https://www.warrennolan.com/basketball/2023/team-net-sheet?team=West-Virginia
 

another team going in the wrong direction 

[IU_FanClub 1,643]

58 minutes ago, Stuhoo said:

I'm not seeing that situation this year. This sadness is happening way too early in the season.

It either

1. Gets better soon and then X and Race come back and it gets quite good, or
2. It slides into the abyss

Yeah I agree with this. This stretch we’re going though typically happens in February and we slide right out of the season. It doesn’t usually happen where we have time to get it fixed.

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I'm holding off buying my annual BTT tournament tickets for now.

[IU_FanClub 1,643]

Decourcy is such a hack

[IU_FanClub 1,643]

We have a better resume than every single team ahead of us there

[Uspshoosier 45,024]

1 minute ago, IU_FanClub said:

We have a better resume than every single team ahead of us there

To his defense the B1G has about 7 teams right now that you could flip flop any of them 8-10 seeds.   I personally have IU in the group right ahead of the last 4 in but it’s pretty close 

[IU_FanClub 1,643]

5 minutes ago, Uspshoosier said:

To his defense the B1G has about 7 teams right now that you could flip flop any of them 8-10 seeds.   I personally have IU in the group right ahead of the last 4 in but it’s pretty close 

I just think it’s completely asinine to have Maryland right there